Dr. Halsey and Storm Covy ??Elite Spartans??

Do you think Dr. Halsey will Make a New Breed of Spartans But this time around She will be making Elite Spartans Elites with Spartan Suits to make them more of a challenge for the UNSC to fight? With The UNSC having Spartan 117, Spartan 4’s The Arbitor and his elites as well as prehaps Brutes and and a whole planet of Soliders. We know that Halsey knows the inside and out of ONI and you would think she would be taking precautions to avoid getting killed by making pawns. Halsey was pretty much the “Master Mind” behind the Human/Covy war she played a big part without her there would be no Master Chief or Cortana!

But knowing how the orginal Covy useing Human Technology is sacred to them she could be reverse engineering the forerunner technology to make a better class of of soliders then what the spartan 1’s,2’s,and 3’s were!

And as far as John knows Dr.Halsey is still “MIA” or even dead he never knew she was sitting on the infinity so why would he go Rouge right away?

No. Just no. And I highly doubt that Halsey is truly on Jul’s side.

Well lets just hope that isn’t the case!

No, Sangheili would not allow that.

also, John and Halsey were never on infinity at the same time

oh okay I was not aware of that lol…

> oh okay I was not aware of that lol…

it is implied in two episodes of Spartan ops

No.

Elites are a completely different race from humans. You know how much work, time, and research goes into making a full Spartan? Halsey would have to know everything about the Elites, biologically speaking. She also needs to know what tech she would be able to use to enhance them and at least the resources to produce such tech. Finally, even assuming that she knew all of that and had the resources, it would take at LEAST two years for any meaningful results. The war might very well be over by then.

Not only that, I’m sure the Elites have a program for something similar so it would be redundant. And as someone said, they most likely wouldn’t allow it anyway.

So no. 50 times no.

> No, Sangheili would not allow that.
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> also, John and Halsey were never on infinity at the same time

We know that honorable, respectable Sangheili wouldn’t allow it. But we don’t know what to expect from Jul and his band of Scurvy Space Pirates.

> No.
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> Elites are a completely different race from humans. You know how much work, time, and research goes into making a full Spartan? Halsey would have to know everything about the Elites, biologically speaking. She also needs to know what tech she would be able to use to enhance them and at least the resources to produce such tech. Finally, even assuming that she knew all of that and had the resources, it would take at LEAST two years for any meaningful results. The war might very well be over by then.
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> Not only that, I’m sure the Elites have a program for something similar so it would be redundant. And as someone said, they most likely wouldn’t allow it anyway.
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> So no. 50 times no.

Considering the UNSC/Covenant war lasted nearly 30 years, I doubt the UNSC/Covenant Remnant war will be over in 2.

> > No, Sangheili would not allow that.
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> > also, John and Halsey were never on infinity at the same time
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> We know that honorable, respectable Sangheili wouldn’t allow it. But we don’t know what to expect from Jul and his band of Scurvy Space Pirates.

there is a clear reference to honor in Spartan ops from a sangheili, their culture and values might not be that different from that of the mainstream sangheilis.

> Considering the UNSC/Covenant war lasted nearly 30 years, I doubt the UNSC/Covenant Remnant war will be over in 2.

Maybe not, but one thing you need to consider is the size of the Remnant. I bet they really aren’t that big at all compared to the massive Covenant empire that existed before. Therefore, I think this war will be over rather quickly, barring any successful surprise attacks on targets that would greatly weaken us.

She doesn’t have the resources to create augmented Sangheili nor does she have the motivation to make them. She isn’t about the betray her own people she sacrificed so much of her life to protect.

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> She might give them flashy technology, or improve their technology in order to use them for her own purposes…or not. It would make them more interesting to fight, if they are improved in some way.

Sangheili would not allow that either, massing with forerunner tech the way Halsey does is a no no for them

Elites whole culture mirrors Spartans and they already have strength and speed to match.

The only human advantage is intelligence which Halsey can’t help with.

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Halsey is on humanity’s side. Not the Elites.

I don’t understand you people’s love for the Sangheili, even the Arbiter. They blindly massacred billions of humans simply because their prophets and idiotic religion told them to. The Arbiter may have had a change of heart at the last second, but he was the Supreme Commander of the Covenant fleet that was the main tool of genocide on humanity and responsible for the Fall of Reach and the death of the Pillar of Autumn’s crew on Alpha Halo.

For 3 decades they massacre the human race in an unprovoked genocidal war. Then at the very last second they help us merely because they needed our help to stop the array from firing. They were even ready to glass Earth when the Flood landed in Africa.

They aren’t our friends. They’re a liability. ONI through Kilo-5 is right to keep them in a civil war while humanity recovers.

> Halsey is on humanity’s side. Not the Elites.
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> I don’t understand you people’s love for the Sangheili, even the Arbiter. They blindly massacred billions of humans simply because their prophets and idiotic religion told them to. The Arbiter may have had a change of heart at the last second, but he was the Supreme Commander of the Covenant fleet that was the main tool of genocide on humanity and responsible for the Fall of Reach and the death of the Pillar of Autumn’s crew on Alpha Halo.
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> For 3 decades they massacre the human race in an unprovoked genocidal war. Then at the very last second they help us merely because they needed our help to stop the array from firing. They were even ready to glass Earth when the Flood landed in Africa.
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> They aren’t our friends. They’re a liability. ONI through Kilo-5 is right to keep them in a civil war while humanity recovers.

You know, if we humans simply lived the by logic of hurting and retaliating everybody who hurt us, we probably wouldn’t be around anymore. The Covenant is a mirror to our own history and culture. How many systems have been used to justify and carry out tragedies and throughout the history of mankind?

Nobody is saying that humanity should forgive the Sangheili for what they did, but we aren’t up to a straight up fight and it would be entirely counter-productive to try and suppress their recovery. Lets work through this, we fund their civil war covertly, they keep fighting, we get stronger and then what? Do we simply leave them to their own devices, likely to rally under tyrants and authoritarian regimes that spring up from periods of instability? Do we set up a police state on Sangheilos and try to rule them as subjects, which will likely only ferments resent and anti-human sentiment that can erupt in full-blown rebellion?

This game that ONI and Kilo-5 is playing has no ultimate ending, unless you advoate killing all of the Elites, which is really foolish if you think about it. If you examine the past canon and lore for Halo, you would know that as the war against the humans went on, the Sangheili began to have doubts about what was going on. Humans had proven to be skilled warriors and tenacious and more than qualified to be allowed into the Covenant. These rumblings are why Truth betrayed them and replaced them with the Jiralhanae, the Brutes were far more loyal. Not only that, but among the Sangheili youth there was a growing human sympathizer movement. You also cant fault them for wanting to glass Earth when the Flood arrived, you know full well how dangerous the Flood is and the threat it poses. Besides, the UNSC let them glass Kenya to contain the Flood, so says Roland in Spartan Assault.

So yes, while the Sangheili were part of the war and slaughtered billions, that doesn’t mean they can’t become allies later on. I’d feel much safer knowing the aliens with the technology to glass planets is on my side, not plotting to kill me. But I suppose it makes more sense to plot against the Sangheili who do support us. I mean, all we have to deal with are human rebels, the Brutes, the Flood and other threats. We totally couldn’t use the help.

> > Considering the UNSC/Covenant war lasted nearly 30 years, I doubt the UNSC/Covenant Remnant war will be over in 2.
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> Maybe not, but one thing you need to consider is the size of the Remnant. I bet they really aren’t that big at all compared to the massive Covenant empire that existed before. Therefore, I think this war will be over rather quickly, barring any successful surprise attacks on targets that would greatly weaken us.

Being smaller than seemingly infinite doesn’t necessarily entail being that much smaller. The Covenant Remnant gets larger every day, it is noticeably larger during Spartan Ops than it was during the Campaign 6 months prior. The Elites, and Grunts making up most of the population of the Remnant are two of the most populous races in the galaxy. And now that the humans can actually fight back, their smaller numbers don’t mean as much.