if this was already posted somewhere then I apologize. I recently started playing h5 again and was rusty so got placed in gold 1. Lost a few more matches and suddenly I’m in silver. I thought arena was set up to where you could only go up in rank and not be ranked down into lower tiers. Why did they change this and when did they do it?
You can drop rank now, it’s been like that for quite some time.
I noticed that as well, I’m not sure why they made it like that now. Maybe population in some tiers is to low
Now, what’s more important for ranking:
-Matches won
-Medals earned
-K/D ratio
I know all count, but there should be a priority “obviously” for ranking
My only problem with H5’s ranking system is that it punishes you too much for being a solo player. I play nothing but Slayer, and it really, really irks me that I can get deranked because of what another person on my team does. I can’t help who I get put on a team with. I can’t help if they’re drunk, or stoned or just goofing off and don’t care if we win or not.
All I can control is how well I do. And if I hold up my end and go positive, I shouldn’t be punished because other people can’t. I understand that wins should matter, but your individual performance should count for something too. And yes, before anyone stat checks me, I’m not good. The best I’ve ever done is Platinum 3 and I finally got my k/d positive again last week after spending too much time on Destiny and Skyrim. I accept I’m never going to be an Onyx level player, and I’m fine with that. But as hard as I have to “work” to get to Platinum, it’s super frustrating to lose it because of someone else’s bad game.
And yes, I have bad games. Everyone at my skill level does. And I hate it when it happens because I know I’m hurting other players and it’s not their fault that my game is off that day.
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> I noticed that as well, I’m not sure why they made it like that now. Maybe population in some tiers is to low
It’s to make sure you are placed in the right ranking tier. Say for example, Player A is a Gold-level player, but he gets carried to Diamond by his friends. Now, after he ranks, he decides to not party up with his friends. Now he’s stuck playing against people way out of his league, and, once he hits Diamond 1, he’s stuck there, unable to go down to his proper rank.
That’s why de-ranking is a thing now. Now you can’t get stuck in a horrible losing streak because the ranking system screwed you.
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> My only problem with H5’s ranking system is that it punishes you too much for being a solo player. I play nothing but Slayer, and it really, really irks me that I can get deranked because of what another person on my team does. I can’t help who I get put on a team with. I can’t help if they’re drunk, or stoned or just goofing off and don’t care if we win or not.
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> All I can control is how well I do. And if I hold up my end and go positive, I shouldn’t be punished because other people can’t. I understand that wins should matter, but your individual performance should count for something too. And yes, before anyone stat checks me, I’m not good. The best I’ve ever done is Platinum 3 and I finally got my k/d positive again last week after spending too much time on Destiny and Skyrim. I accept I’m never going to be an Onyx level player, and I’m fine with that. But as hard as I have to “work” to get to Platinum, it’s super frustrating to lose it because of someone else’s bad game.
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> And yes, I have bad games. Everyone at my skill level does. And I hate it when it happens because I know I’m hurting other players and it’s not their fault that my game is off that day.
100% agreed. Like you, I hate it just as much when I’m holding back the team as when the team is holding me back. There are several serious flaws in the way this game handles rank, but this is far and away the worst of the lot.
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> > I noticed that as well, I’m not sure why they made it like that now. Maybe population in some tiers is to low
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> It’s to make sure you are placed in the right ranking tier. Say for example, Player A is a Gold-level player, but he gets carried to Diamond by his friends. Now, after he ranks, he decides to not party up with his friends. Now he’s stuck playing against people way out of his league, and, once he hits Diamond 1, he’s stuck there, unable to go down to his proper rank.
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> That’s why de-ranking is a thing now. Now you can’t get stuck in a horrible losing streak because the ranking system screwed you.
Earlier on before you could derank I got carried through my placement matches to diamond 5 in Slayer and obviously got Onyx playing with the same guys and then when I wasn’t playing with them I had no business being there and got my -Yoink- handed to me for the rest of the season. It’s really not as bad as it seems, started out diamond got to onyx went back to diamond now I’m back at Onyx. If you’re on a hot streak you rank up, if you’re sucking wind you move down for a little bit.
If you are losing or doing bad you should rank down… Period… Why drag other players down if you aren’t performing? I am glad the removed the tier locks so to speak. What if players lucked out and had good team mates and were improperly ranked? Shouldn’t they move down a tier if they can’t contribute on the tier they are on?
Its been like that for about 5-6 months and I don’t know why they didn’t introduce it from the get go. If you aren’t doing well yoiu SHOULD be down rankes
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> Its been like that for about 5-6 months and I don’t know why they didn’t introduce it from the get go. If you aren’t doing well yoiu SHOULD be down rankes
I agree, but it sucks when you’re not the one who isn’t playing well. I’ve had plenty of games where I’ll get 30 kills and lose because my teammates have either app quit, or are going 2-20. This is why I wish rank depended more on individual performance than just wins vs losses. Obviously teamwork is important, I get that, but unfortunately sometimes you get teammates who just don’t care and just act like idiots. In a perfect world they’d play in social, but they don’t. I don’t mind being bumped down a tier if I’m not performing up to par with others in my rank, but when I’m outscoring everyone on the opposing team and lose rank because my teammates act like they’ve never touched a controller before, it sucks.
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> > Its been like that for about 5-6 months and I don’t know why they didn’t introduce it from the get go. If you aren’t doing well yoiu SHOULD be down rankes
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> I agree, but it sucks when you’re not the one who isn’t playing well. I’ve had plenty of games where I’ll get 30 kills and lose because my teammates have either app quit, or are going 2-20. This is why I wish rank depended more on individual performance than just wins vs losses. Obviously teamwork is important, I get that, but unfortunately sometimes you get teammates who just don’t care and just act like idiots. In a perfect world they’d play in social, but they don’t. I don’t mind being bumped down a tier if I’m not performing up to par with others in my rank, but when I’m outscoring everyone on the opposing team and lose rank because my teammates act like they’ve never touched a controller before, it sucks.
I feel you, can’t say how many times I look at someone’s rofile who quit and it says Thayer playing destiny or battlefield. I don’t like quitters. Halo used to rank based of performance, if younscored in the top half of your team CSR went up. Score in the bottom, it goes down
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> > > Its been like that for about 5-6 months and I don’t know why they didn’t introduce it from the get go. If you aren’t doing well yoiu SHOULD be down rankes
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> > I agree, but it sucks when you’re not the one who isn’t playing well. I’ve had plenty of games where I’ll get 30 kills and lose because my teammates have either app quit, or are going 2-20. This is why I wish rank depended more on individual performance than just wins vs losses. Obviously teamwork is important, I get that, but unfortunately sometimes you get teammates who just don’t care and just act like idiots. In a perfect world they’d play in social, but they don’t. I don’t mind being bumped down a tier if I’m not performing up to par with others in my rank, but when I’m outscoring everyone on the opposing team and lose rank because my teammates act like they’ve never touched a controller before, it sucks.
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> I feel you, can’t say how many times I look at someone’s rofile who quit and it says Thayer playing destiny or battlefield. I don’t like quitters. Halo used to rank based of performance, if younscored in the top half of your team CSR went up. Score in the bottom, it goes down
That was one of the main things I liked about the Halo 3 ranking system. Even if you didn’t win, as long as you pulled your own weight, you wouldn’t lose CSR.
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> > > > Its been like that for about 5-6 months and I don’t know why they didn’t introduce it from the get go. If you aren’t doing well yoiu SHOULD be down rankes
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> > > I agree, but it sucks when you’re not the one who isn’t playing well. I’ve had plenty of games where I’ll get 30 kills and lose because my teammates have either app quit, or are going 2-20. This is why I wish rank depended more on individual performance than just wins vs losses. Obviously teamwork is important, I get that, but unfortunately sometimes you get teammates who just don’t care and just act like idiots. In a perfect world they’d play in social, but they don’t. I don’t mind being bumped down a tier if I’m not performing up to par with others in my rank, but when I’m outscoring everyone on the opposing team and lose rank because my teammates act like they’ve never touched a controller before, it sucks.
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> > I feel you, can’t say how many times I look at someone’s rofile who quit and it says Thayer playing destiny or battlefield. I don’t like quitters. Halo used to rank based of performance, if younscored in the top half of your team CSR went up. Score in the bottom, it goes down
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> That was one of the main things I liked about the Halo 3 ranking system. Even if you didn’t win, as long as you pulled your own weight, you wouldn’t lose CSR.
That is one reason i loved h3 and reach, even if you were doing great and your team lost you would still get a good rank. I’m not a fan of this oh you lost so many matches so down you go.
Thank you everyone who responded to this post.
Its been like that for a while, but 343 has never mentioned it. A bit frustrating as it seems to have a lot of negative effects. A quick example is there are a lot more smurfs now.
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> Its been like that for a while, but 343 has never mentioned it. A bit frustrating as it seems to have a lot of negative effects. A quick example is there are a lot more smurfs now.
I’m 90% sure they did mention it in a CU.
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> > Its been like that for a while, but 343 has never mentioned it. A bit frustrating as it seems to have a lot of negative effects. A quick example is there are a lot more smurfs now.
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> I’m 90% sure they did mention it in a CU.
That might be correct. Tomorrow when I have a litte more time I’ll dig through all the CU’s and see if I can find anything.
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> That might be correct. Tomorrow when I have a litte more time I’ll dig through all the CU’s and see if I can find anything.
I’ll bet you a Gold pack I’m right!
I agree with many others on here that like it if you lose you go down. I’m glad it’s like Halo 3 now. It makes WAY more sense (I’ll gladly go into why if anyone wants)
Your playing a TEAM playlist, so winning is all that matters. All these people don’t want their rank to be affected when their team loses because they do well I think is a joke, have you ever played sports before? Ranked play is pretty much sports. If I score five goals and my hockey team loses should we still get half a point or something because I did well??? Absolutely not!! For every game that you do amazing, you’re going to have one that you don’t aka your team carries you. In those games should you not go up in rank because you didn’t do well even though your team won? Of course you should, your TEAM won.
If Halo ever goes this route of reward the player, not the team, team play will become a joke! Players will be fighting over power weapons a lot more, people will get mad at people for “stealing” there kills more and so on. If this is all you care about, go play FFA, Soical or a other game entirely. If your serious about your rank play in H5, some suggestions are:
- Use a mic when playing solo
- Use a mic period
- Form a team and play regularly with them
- Join a Spartan Company
- Don’t play Team Ranked playlists solo
If I go into a ranked team playlist solo, I do so knowing I might get paired up with people who don’t talk, who aren’t as good as me, who are drunk, stoned or just goofing off.
I see nothing much wrong with H5 ranking system minus the match making system could be tweaked a bit, the placement matches, the seasons/season lengths and the rank names should go back to military ranks. The actual system/set-up isn’t that bad at all.
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> I’m 90% sure they did mention it in a CU.
It was first mentioned (I think) in one of the Message of the Day pop-ups in-game, if that means anything.