Don't play Bot Bootcmap!

I decided to play against bots to do some practicing. It may not be obvious now, but I didn’t think too much of it and played quite well. Very well in fact where I got over 20 kills and something like 2 or 3 deaths.

It’s bots… right?

Well Bot Bootcamp has SBMM enabled and I’m on my 6th or 7th Quick Play playlist match that I’ve lost in a row. If you want to enjoy the game, do not play against the bots.

It completely messes up your SBMM.

EDIT: fixed some typos and spelling.

How the hell are you losing to bots, I have never lost a game against bots, i genuinely think its just you being bad at the game.

I think you read that wrong. He’s saying that the bot matches boosted his MMR unintentionally, and now he’s playing higher tier real players.

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That’s bizarre if correct.

I’m wondering if sbmm is affected in kbm playlist. I’m constantly playing Onyx players now and I don’t want to go into kbm playlist and screw my team when I’m Silver level.

be fine if the skill system gave you harder bots to fight against the higher skill rank you were. Be a lot more fun to play bots too. Or give us a way to choose the bot difficulty, like as a dropdown menu similar to the dropdown menus ranked has to pick input modes and party sizes.

I’m not losing to bots, I’m saying play Bot Bootcamp and do well, then go into Quick Play against actual real players and you’ll notice your rank has inflated from the bot game.

As Hot_Juicy_Pie said, you’ve read it the wrong way around.

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Oh my bad, yeah i did read that wrong. I dont know, i really dont play much of quickplay, usually sticking to BTB since its a lot more fun to me. SBMM does suck tho, weird that it applies to Bot Matches

343 is using Bungie’s Destiny Slogan right now

“Working as intended”

it even tracks the kill in you career stats… at least pulled into halotracker from the API

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That’s insane. I did not know that.

Pog look at me mom with my 69.0 K/D.

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So with this logic if you intentionally bottom frag in bot academy your SBMM level would be lowered? :thinking: that could make ranked games a problem if a high level player bottom frags against bots to get easy games in ranked

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I think those are based on your CSR score. Which is only changed by Ranked games

What a mess 343. Bot matches should not affect MMR at all.

Yeah I noticed this too.
Can’t really 100% trust the stats on Halo Tracker now as they can be boosted by playing against bots.

Hopefully 343 release our stats soon as I want to see what my stats are for ranked games only.

Re the bots - is crazy that playing against bots can impact your SBMM. It’s even crazier that we can’t choose to fight against Spartan bots. What’s the point in having Spartan level bots if you can’t actually play against them in anything other than practice mode?

There should be individual playlists for fighting against the hardest bots and second-hardest bots. It’s the closest thing we have to a firefight mode right now and I think it would be neat. Right now I’ve barely played any bot matches and all of the bots I’ve seen in matchmaking have been far worse than any human opponent.

It needs a dropdown box for bot difficulty like how ranked has dropdown boxes for inputs and stuff

really need upped difficulty in matchmaking, marine difficulty just doesnt cut it

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Maybe I should play bots then, since my teammates in BTB are always some of the worst players on Earth. Maybe I can bump my matching high enough to find people that don’t afk and will actually play the objective.

I’m talking about playing Bot Bootcamp, doing very, very well (as they’re bots on Marine difficulty) and then going into social Quick Play or Big Team Battle.

I played one game of Bot Bootcamp, I went 20 kills to 2 ish deaths. Then I went into social (unranked) playlists and lost 7 games in a row and got absolutely destroyed.

So ranked aside, people can inflate their social stats by playing against bots and it’ll mess up their SBMM and put them in stupidly hard lobbies when they play against real people.