Don't force to play gametypes

Games Halo Infinite
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For events it should not be a forced game type for every event challenge,

Last spartan standing is quite possibly the worst game type there is,

  • Spawns are awful,
  • Stupid way to have weapons (Upgrading them rather than spawning on the map)
  • Progress doesn’t save (For me at least) if I leave before the game ends
  • Just not a fun game type at all and I can’t wait to stop playing once I have level 10 on event pass

If they were going to force a game type to be played I would rather it be Slayer or BTB (Maybe fiesta as this is fun)

343… Why? Its just frustrating and makes people not want to play

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I found this iteration of LSS worse than the previous on Breaker exclusive. It would be more fun if it rotated different kinds of LSS. Give more weapon variety or something.

I’m glad I got it done for the Star Wars look, but it soon got frustrating.

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We need to be able to choose what game types we want to play like in Halo MCC!!

Peace! :fist_right: :fist_left:

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I’m not even gonna go for the event pass. The first week of this season it was that immensly bad i’m not putting myself through that again. The pass only have 1 decent armour coating and 1 nice weapon coating and the rest i find rubbish. Those 2 items are absolutely not worth the hell of LSS.

I already completed the battle pass, and the matches on their own are just not fun with the extreme skill gaps and the non-functioning team balancing (most matches are one-sided), so i only play for the challenges if the price is right. So i didn’t play last week and i won’t play this week and next week. No price is worth it to play LSS!

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Then don’t play it? Play what you want to play…

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That’s what i said i was doing :wink:

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I’m playing BTB now myself. Having a blast with it too!

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But i wanted to get the armour/coating… im at level 10 now so no more LSS xD

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Yeah, the gamemode doesn’t make much sense as a “lone wolves” theme either. Isn’t the point of lone wolves is going out behind enemy lines and scavenge your equipment?

The BTB maps are ironically too small for something like this. Either we need bigger maps, or more likely, decrease the player count per-match which would also help with finding matches once the wait time goes over 2 minutes again.

Instead of finding weapons in the drop pods, it is equipment and you get weapons by playing discount gun-game (which doesn’t swap you so you can save up once you get the sidekick until you have enough for the BR, which is a persistent balance problem both for the sidekick and for the mode)

Progress does save once the match is complete, but it doesn’t tell you anything until it is over and it seems the UI swaps mid-match so you don’t know what your next challenges will be unless you actively look for them. Or match #1 might still be going while you’re playing match #2, but #2 ends early so now no progress on the upcoming challenges transfer over.

What I would do is decrease the player count to 8 or even 6. That should help with spawns.

Pick a lane. Either find weapons on-site and start with disruptors or an AR, or go full gun-game and when you hit the point threshold, automatically swap them over. No saving up so you can wreck everyone with the OP sidekick.

Stop forcing challenges to be completed when the match is over. The points update with the player, why not everything else?

Maybe test out smaller forge tools like weather and lighting and change the BTB maps to be darker to fit with the “lone wolves” theme? What if breaker was night and foggy? Fragmentation had storms? Something to make it look more than just the standard BTB maps. Tease people with what is possible instead of letting leaks do all the work.

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I’m right there with you. Keep beating this drum people.

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That’s not the point, weekly challenges shouldn’t be focused on specific playlists

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Why not? Because you say so?

The only one that really gets a say in this matter is the DEV’s. But there is nothing wrong for requesting it to be changed. Just keep in mind, they are allowed to say no to what people suggest too.

You have to convince them that there’s a better way if you want a stake in how the game is played. But they get the final say sort of speak.

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Because it doesn’t give a fair representation of playlist populations. If the developers care about player population they will pick rotations based on player population. Making a weekly reward based on a playlist skews the numbers. Most people don’t like lss or at least are the most vocal about it.

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My favorite game modes are BTB heavies, Infection and a dash of slayer.
I would make do with just BTB and the slayer games, but with limited game time I need to play select games if I want the weekly, swat for headshots and BR kills, landgrab for captures ect.
It at the point where I log in, see if the weekly is worth the time, and if not I go back to MCC.
Without cross core too its not always worth the time either, another visor I’ll never get to use.

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fair respentation? Not sure what you mean by that. Unfair representation would probably be correct if it was fake people in those game modes used to pretend there are people playing it.

Pretty sure they do challenges for game modes specifically though to entice people to try it out. Because people generally have a tendency to find a game mode they like, and only really play that game mode. If it had nothing to get people to try it, they’d never bother with the event.

People though have been asking for them to remove mode specific challenges since the start. But they don’t seem to agree that doing so is a good route, at least not with all challenge. I do believe they have reduced the normal challenges being stuck in game modes that have a chance to hit, due to the game mode being tossed into a category with several other game modes.

IT is what it is though. You can keep trying if you want, but I don’t think they’re going to change event challenge’s any time soon. More so since unlike normal challenges, you can garuntee you get the game mode needed to complete the challenge every time.

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They need to remove challenges all together. It is so unfulfilling. It saps my enthusiasm to want to play. Nobody wants a to do list.

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@Datassette

Yeah Im not a fan of them,

But if the6 were to keep them in they just need to look at Reach… A good social ranking system and some challenges for bonus exp… that I would like

But in term of the spcial ranks I would want SR number rank… I’d like actual ranks… feels more rewarding

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@General_Fox

That’s all well and good to get people to play it more,

But I played LSS for a few days when it came out to see if it was good and it just wasn’t good,

Now surely if they can see the population of that game type is low people are avoiding it (Not enjoying) so why take them away from what the majority of players enjoy?

Doesn’t make scense

It’s not just getting the event items either the only way for me to rank up my BP is challenges from the exp, so i kind of want to level it up so have to play the event game type,

If there was a social rank i could work towards I probably wouldn’t bother with the event (Due to -yoink- game type) and therefore avoid getting frustrated by playing a god awful gametype I (And seems most people) don’t enjoy,

I know alot of people keep looking at older Halo games but the ranking/challenge system in Reach worked perfectly, there’s no reason they couldn’t work that into Infinite

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I think what they are trying to say is that we don’t have any other progression alternatives, which in turn unintentionally leads people away from gamemodes.

For example, if you really want that black and red coating for your BR, you have to play LSS to get it. Or do challenges in the season pass to get it. So you have to play modes you otherwise might not enjoy over the ones that do. I think this is fine for events to showcase new modes, but this is present through the whole game. I haven’t played alot of BTB because I’ve been focusing on battle pass progress and almost no challenges require BTB. So by the time I complete my weekly challenges that week, I’m tired of playing Halo at all. So I take a break for the rest of the week and then when I come back, the challenges reset and the cycle starts over. MCC is similar, but you earn per-match skill-based XP (even if you don’t get season points per level after a certain point) and you have 3 sets of challenges Weekly PVP, weekly PVE, and seasonal, all the challenges can be done in any order the player wishes. In infinite, you only have weekly PVP and you can only work on 3 to 4 challenges at once which further limit your options. So if I have a busy week or I get tired of Halo for the next few days, my time would be spent mostly in Quickplay, Tactical Slayer, and Team Slayer instead of BTB. And I play with my GF all the time, if we have rumble pit or any FFA challenges, then we can’t play together at all so we can’t help each other with our challenges.

And sure, challenges and cosmetics are “optional” but for me, and many of us, playing dress-up is part of the fun in Halo and has been since Halo 3. The fact that r/Halodripfinite is a thing shows how important that is to many people. And since challenges are the only form of rewarding progression then we’re stuck with whatever 343 gives us.

The challenges right now aren’t that bad but there are so many of them that we can’t access at once. We need per-match XP, event challenges to be on their own list, at least the ability to swap what challenges we can do first, if they don’t open the entire list. I don’t know how long it takes Freeplayers to complete the pass, but I’m a consistent player and season 1 and 2 takes me about 3 months. Season 1 I got under, Season 2 was just over. At launch before all the challenge improvements it still would have taken premium players almost 6 months to finish (without 2xp boosts and xp grants). If someone didn’t play almost every week like I do, I don’t see a 3 month season being viable as the main progression system with these challenges.

If 343 wants a 3 month season as intended they need to do something to help out. I finished season 2 so I’m finally free to play what I want, but if it takes what is normally a full season to get there, I’ll be stuck doing challenges every 3 months instead of the modes I want, just to play tacti-cool spartan dressup.