Don't belittle the achievements of others.

I have noticed a tendency on this forum for people to put down the efforts of others. example…
This game is mismatched, I was in a game with 2 sr130 players on my team, and we still got our butts kicked etc. Then you get the replies, sr130 means nothing blah blah blah, they probably played lots of spartan ops, padded their stats etc…
That is such a petty, childish attitude.
If some one has reached 130, then it means they have stuck to playing h4 long enough to achieve it. Unlike some, who just come to this forum to whinge. If their goal was to achieve 130, then I salute them.
Maybe reaching that goal means as much to them as achieving a csr50 does to a lot of players now. Everyone has different aims.
There also seems to be a tendency, more so on random teams, to put down the efforts of noob team mates…I got 30 kills and my useless team mates hardly got any etc etc… Sometimes end of game stats don’t always tell the true story. Those noobs that are rushing out into the front line are drawing the enemy fire. Making it easier for you to sit back with your sniper or dmr and rack up kills.
Every one is a noob to start with, some go on to become good players, others don’t.
But without the noobs and casuals, imagine how bad the population of h4 would be, it’s bad enough now.
It’s a shame that mics aren’t used more in the games, used properly even random teams would be a lot more efficient

Rank doesn’t mean anything…i’ve played against players who were SR130’s and they were pretty bad. Look up there Service Record for War Games Kills and Deaths. That way you know how “good” they are.

why do I have to respect a rank? I don’t respect Sr 130 like I don’t respect Inheritors in Reach. They will all die and limp out of the lobby which they came from if they think a SR 130 makes thme a king of Halo.

If a player on my team is feeding kills to the enemy they aren’t good plain and simple. I don’t have to respect mindless teammates ever and enjoy playing with my friends who all know how to actually play well.

Measuring skill by their sr is pointless. It is by no means a representation of skill only the amount of time they put into the game. The only time I see people putting down sr is when people use it to show the skill of players.

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> why do I have to respect a rank? I don’t respect Sr 130 like I don’t respect Inheritors in Reach. They will all die and limp out of the lobby which they came from if they think a SR 130 makes thme a king of Halo.
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> If a player on my team is feeding kills to the enemy they aren’t good plain and simple. I don’t have to respect mindless teammates ever and enjoy playing with my friends who all know how to actually play well.

Not saying you should respect them, but at least they have achieved something. Unlike some people who come to this forum, and think with their egos, rather then their brains.

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I really don’t see the achievement in getting SR 130 honestly. Just shows they played a lot. Not that they are good as many others have already stated.

> Measuring skill by their sr is pointless. It is by no means a representation of skill only the amount of time they put into the game. The only time I see people putting down sr is when people use it to show the skill of players.

yes, I agree, it is no measure of skill, but at least they have spent the time playing the game to achieve that rank. And with the dwindling population of h4, at least that’s something.

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Implying nobody here achieved something?

I’m not trying to be mean here, I’m honestly not. But I’m not going to respect someone or anything just because they’ve reached 130/inheritor.

All it shows is they have time to play. Nothing more.

You all are arguing for the sake of arguing, and proving OP’s point that it is about ego. I understand that you have your opinions, but OP is merely saying that a n00b’s opinion of SR130 being an achievement is justly theirs. Good on you OP.

> Rank doesn’t mean anything…i’ve played against players who were SR130’s and they were pretty bad. Look up there Service Record for War Games Kills and Deaths. That way you know how “good” they are.

I agree with you up to a certain point Riot. Still, a K/D Ratio does not always determine how good a player is. If you have a good K/D because you match up against a lot of bad players, it really doesn’t show what your true skill level is. Stats mean nothing unless you are matched against people who are at least your skill level. What I do agree with you on is that people who have good stats usually tend to be better players than those who have a bad ratio. At the same time though, I have won matches against players who have much better stats than me and I have lost matches against players who have much worse stats than me.

I’m only saying that overall, stats don’t really prove how great a player is at a game.

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Respect doesn’t come into it, but they have achieved more then people who come to this forum saying…I hate halo 4 and I’m going to do my best to make other people hate it too. If their aim was to achieve 130, well at least they accomplished that. Halo 4 is my first attempt at xbox live. And I am totally blown out by the amount of egotistical comments you see on this forum.

I seriously doubt that anyone is actually proud of being an SR 130. I’m not saying that they should be ashamed, but I really can’t imagine that anyone would expect any respect for “achieving” their meaningless rank. If you can find me anyone that does, then I would be pretty blown away.

> You all are arguing for the sake of arguing, and proving OP’s point that it is about ego. I understand that you have your opinions, but OP is merely saying that a n00b’s opinion of SR130 being an achievement is justly theirs. Good on you OP.

Dude’s got it.

> Halo 4 is my first attempt at xbox live. And I am totally blown out by the amount of egotistical comments you see on this forum.

some of those comments probably feel egotistical to you when in fact they are from players who have been playing halo for years and know what they are talking about.

Experience will always overrule a novice’s opinion in any field including players who have been with a game series longer than those who have not.

> I seriously doubt that anyone is actually proud of being an SR 130. I’m not saying that they should be ashamed, but I really can’t imagine that anyone would expect any respect for “achieving” their meaningless rank. If you can find me anyone that does, then I would be pretty blown away.

Well, allow me to BLOW YOU

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This is my 1st Halo game & I am an average player at best on a good day!
I’m 1 of those n00bs who put the time in to reach sr130.
I am fully aware that it means nothing & I dont care if I am faced by a full team of 130’s on BTB, as long as I go positive on my K/D in a game & I enjoyed the match then I am happy.

> > Halo 4 is my first attempt at xbox live. And I am totally blown out by the amount of egotistical comments you see on this forum.
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> some of those comments probably feel egotistical to you when in fact they are from players who have been playing halo for years and know what they are talking about.
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> Experience will always overrule a novice’s opinion in any field including players who have been with a game series longer than those who have not.

Lol, well if you feel that being good at pushing buttons on a control pad puts you in the same league as some one like Michael Schumaker ( formula 1 ) well that’s your opinion, I have stated mine. and your attitude is a good example of ego speaking.

Its a rank thats both a poor indicator of skill and a poor indicator of how long an individual has played the game, it really doesn’t mean anything in a sense.

In Reach, your rank meant how much you invested into game, it did its job.

In Halo 3, your rank represented your skill level, it did its job.

In Halo 4, your rank actually shows what specializations you have presumably unlocked, but thats about it. Its not a good indicator of skill and its not a good indicator of how long a player has played.

To reach the max rank in Halo 4, you really don’t need a play a single game of multiplayer. Just play Spartan OPS over and over again. You’ll rank up faster then you would in multiplayer.

Its really not a good indicator of anything once you find out. I can see some individuals using it as a goal, but once you attain it, you get a pretty emblem, thats it.

Also, I’m not belittling anybody who intentionally pursues this rank, I’m just voicing my opinion that the rank is conceptually useless, it acts as a placeholder to just unlock specializations.

To OP:

Well if they say that, they are a noob. If they get ripped on for it, then they learn from it. Hence they become less of a noob. This game is rated M for MATURE. I have hope in the fact that someone playing it can take a little flame on the internet from someone they will probably never know irl.

> Its a rank thats both a poor indicator of skill and a poor indicator of how long an individual has played the game, it really doesn’t mean anything in a sense.
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> In Reach, your rank meant how much you invested into game, it did its job.
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> In Halo 3, your rank represented your skill level, it did its job.
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> In Halo 4, your rank actually shows what specializations you have presumably unlocked, but thats about it. Its not a good indicator of skill and its not a good indicator of how long a player has played.
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> To reach the max rank in Halo 4, you really don’t need a play a single game of multiplayer. Just play Spartan OPS over and over again. You’ll rank up faster then you would in multiplayer.
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> Its really not a good indicator of anything once you find out. I can see some individuals using it as a goal, but once you attain it, you get a pretty emblem, thats it.
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> Also, I’m not belittling anybody who intentionally pursues this rank, I’m just voicing my opinion that the rank is conceptually useless, it acts as a placeholder to just unlock specializations.

True, but not everyone buys halo 4 to become good at multi player. Everyone has their own goals. But that doesn’t mean that their goals are worth less, because they are differnt to yours.