Keep the conspirecy part as more of an accidental misunderstanding.What i mean is Jorge an 6 the dog tags Jorge gives to 6 before his death,something to remember him by or something to carry on with Jorge’s wishes.What i mean is Jorge said he’ll go down on Reach,with Reach but instead noble 6 did. My theory is Jorge wanted to die on Reach,with it fighting for it,saving it .But he never did,instead he assisted New Alexandria and other cities from being glassed.Saving humanity’s last hope Noble team and mainly 6.Some things to blow out there is as the campaign goes on 6 and Jorge form a bond a Friendship,meaning they can or will get hit hard by one anothers death. So what if the dog tags mean something what if it meant that Jorge as already explained wanted to die on Reach. ‘Don’t deny me this’ deny stated that someone refuses to tell the truth, also means ‘refuse to let oneself have something that one desires’ this means someone will not give something or let someone else do something the person desires but Jorge says: DON’T DENY me this meaning he wants 6 to do something Jorge has desired what could that be? Win the war? Save Noble team? Die on Reach whilst fighting to save it? Wait…Die on Reach whilst fighting to save it,something Jorge wanted he wanted to die on Reach knowing he fought every last second to defend it,now with this being said he gives the dog tags to 6 and says DON’T DENY me this he passes on something of his to his friend to remember him by but also saying he wants 6 to do something of which Jorge desires,and im sure we all know Jorge wanted to die defending Reach,but it never happened so he gave that responsibility to 6. In a way he got cursed by the friend knowing he has avenged him at his own death,but also died knowing that he defended Reach.But does that mean the dog tags were special so special 6 did this was this planned by Bungie? I guess we’ll never know.Leave your thoughts down on this forum if you think it could be true or false
Idk seems to far fetched to be true. I feel like it would of mentioned he came back in the records for example wouldn’t say mia if he truly did come back to help in the cities that would be too noticable. Plus even if he did reach got glassed if he stayed more than likely would of got caught up in it
Mind Blown…
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> Idk seems to far fetched to be true. I feel like it would of mentioned he came back in the records for example wouldn’t say mia if he truly did come back to help in the cities that would be too noticable. Plus even if he did reach got glassed if he stayed more than likely would of got caught up in it
About New Alexandria what i meant to say was he took out a cruiser,saved 6 from being blown up by it,then 6 proceeds to take out a carrier himself saving loads of ‘Civilians’ as i was meant to say,but NA was destroyed completely,sorry for the inconvenience.
wow just wow
Okaaaaay?
Kind of a -Yoink- move, they way you put it. “Hey, go ahead and die defending Reach because I’m gonna die up here” Interesting thought, but not something Jorge would do.
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> Kind of a -Yoink- move, they way you put it. “Hey, go ahead and die defending Reach because I’m gonna die up here” Interesting thought, but not something Jorge would do.
Well it wasn’t that Jorge planned this to happened it’s just something i thought,the main point is is there a link with Jorge’s dog tags that lead to 6’s death, he gave them to him,and said DON’T DENY me this and the word DENY means either not telling the truth of something or not let oneself take another ones desires. Jorge wanted to die on Reach,it’s his home,where he’s lived for years on end,and finding out it’s being attacked would mean he would do anything he can to save Reach,But if he died there wouldn’t it sound brilliant (not literally now) to have a massive grave with your name on it with a heroic story of your life and your battles? Maybe Jorge loved that,knowing he will be dearly remembered.But back to DENY it’s clearly obvious he would do anything to save it even if it caused him his death. So he never died on Reach he died in Space,but 6 died on Reach,he died saving the planet,my only question is was 6 born on Reach and did he live there? If so maybe it’s not 6’s desire to die there or it is…they both have their connections and to keep them connected the dog tags come in, Jorge dies with something of his in 6’s hands,a token,a memory item, or something 6 has to tske to forfill Jorge’s desires. That it! And since his Death,think on How Halsey,Captain Keyes and Miranda keyes felt of their family’s death?
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> Idk seems to far fetched to be true. I feel like it would of mentioned he came back in the records for example wouldn’t say mia if he truly did come back to help in the cities that would be too noticable. Plus even if he did reach got glassed if he stayed more than likely would of got caught up in it
Still that evidence proves my point,he might have got caught up in the glassing but doesn’t mean he died on the planet his DEAD body fell meaning he never died on Reach
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> > Idk seems to far fetched to be true. I feel like it would of mentioned he came back in the records for example wouldn’t say mia if he truly did come back to help in the cities that would be too noticable. Plus even if he did reach got glassed if he stayed more than likely would of got caught up in it
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> Still that evidence proves my point,he might have got caught up in the glassing but doesn’t mean he died on the planet his DEAD body fell meaning he never died on Reach
I wouldn’t day his dead body fell. He was in the explosion literally at the source his body would be vaporized
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> > Still that evidence proves my point,he might have got caught up in the glassing but doesn’t mean he died on the planet his DEAD body fell meaning he never died on Reach
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> I wouldn’t day his dead body fell. He was in the explosion literally at the source his body would be vaporized
Oh ok…still though he never died on the planet
Alright but fight this thought. While Jorge wanted to die on Reach. Why the -Yoink- would he be like “Yo because imma die here, you should die there” I think the true meaning behind him saying “Don’t deny me this” was telling 6 not to try and deny Jorge a honorable death that meant something. Giving 6 his dogtags as something to remember him by, which he holds throughout the entire game. In almost every cutscene with 6 in it after Jorge’s death he is seen holding his dogtags
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> Alright but fight this thought. While Jorge wanted to die on Reach. Why the -Yoink- would he be like “Yo because imma die here, you should die there” I think the true meaning behind him saying “Don’t deny me this” was telling 6 not to try and deny Jorge a honorable death that meant something. Giving 6 his dogtags as something to remember him by, which he holds throughout the entire game. In almost every cutscene with 6 in it after Jorge’s death he is seen holding his dogtags
Yeah I agree now. This post was made 3 years ago when I was really naive and didn’t understand what the dialogue and body language meant etc. I get it all now so I just want to say thank you for pointing that out for me 