As the title says, what to you think?
When I first played halo I thought that the events in the game are built from our present day, but then I discovered that maybe that’s not the case.
I think the halo story takes place in an alternate universe in which technology developed much slower in some areas and faster in other areas. For example: grenades are still used, along with projectile based weapons that are close to what we have in the present day. The scorpion, mongoose, and warthog are all very similar to present day vehicles, and I would argue that many of them could be made with the technology we have today (look at the civilian cars in New Mombasa, a lot of current hybrid cars already look very similar to them), despite the game takes place 500+ years after. This is equivalent to our present day military using wooden ships and singer fire musket guns, both available 500 years ago, and still travelling in horse-pulled carriages.
However, in the halo story, humanity was able to colonize a large part of the galaxy and make very large spacecrafts with hyperspace capabilities, which I don’t think is possible in our world after 500 years, seeing that we haven’t been able to send humans to the moon for 50 years and the lack of funding of our space programs across the globe.
Because of these things I came to the conclusion that the halo universe is an alternate universe in which space technology developed rapidly and weapons and vehicles developed very slowly.
Comment what you think: is halo in another universe, or does the government start placing more emphasis on space projects because of the various wars and insurrections?
I don’t understand the nature of your question. Every fictional universe could be considered an alternate universe to our own. Even in fiction that makes generous use of multiverse theory (DC and Marvel, for instance), none of the “main” settings take place in what we call reality.
Halo takes place in another universe, where the events of modern human history are the same, but diverges in both the far history and far future. Halo is not telling a story of what happened in the far past 100,000+ years ago or what will happen in 500 years in our reality; it’s telling a fictional story that could be considered an alternate universe that shares some similarities but has major differences.
> 2533274817408735;2:
> I don’t understand the nature of your question. Every fictional universe could be considered an alternate universe to our own. Even in fiction that makes generous use of multiverse theory (DC and Marvel, for instance), none of the “main” settings take place in what we call reality.
>
> Halo takes place in another universe, where the events of modern human history are the same, but diverges in both the far history and far future. Halo is not telling a story of what happened in the far past 100,000+ years ago or what will happen in 500 years in our reality; it’s telling a fictional story that could be considered an alternate universe that shares some similarities but has major differences.
I see your point and it makes sense, especially that halo diverges in the future from our present. But one interesting thing is that our present date is changing, 2017 to 2018 then to 2019. So I guess it will be an alternate universe like what I meant in 2552 AD, unless the covenant actually attacks us in reality (would be cool, but also please don’t).
What are you even talking about? Do you not understand what a FICTIONAL universe is?
I’ll do my best to respond to you here, but as said above, the whole point of sci-fi is to be in an alternate universe. But for the sake of discussion, I will say that Halo takes place in OUR future, and not in a different universe’s future:
- Projectile weaponry has been around since arguably 10th century China with the invention of black powder. The only thing that has changed is how those projectiles are delivered to the target. For example, a musket required you to pack gun powder and a projectile into a barrel, load up a primer powder, strike the primer with something like flint, and then hope to a higher power that the projectile shoots straight. Now we have all of this encased inside a bullet with rifling along the barrel to ensure the projectile shoots straight. We have limited directed energy weaponry now, but it’s just really inefficient compared to kinetic energy weaponry, and that likely won’t change in 500 years - The Scorpion, Mongoose, and Warthog serve the same purpose as the tank, ATV, and humvee in the 21st century, respectively. These are each very useful designs for a variety of military applications, and that likely won’t change in 500 years either. The only difference would be the increased usage of air vehicles, but each of these ground vehicles are capable of being equipped with anti-air weaponry. And yes, people have in fact made real life warthogs. But none of them run on a hydrogen fuel cell like the ones in Halo - Civilian vehicles seen in New Mombasa are largely similar to hybrid and electric vehicles now probably because the developers were more focused on good game play and other big things and chose to put less time into brainstorming what civilian vehicles are gonna look like in 500 years - We are able to send humans to the moon, we just don’t because we don’t want to spend the money. Elon Musk is currently working on getting people to Mars, so we are beyond worrying about getting to the moon. NASA and other private companies are researching and developing carbon fiber threading for making space elevators, trying to find a way to get people on Mars and other planets, and many other things that I wouldn’t even understand. We have until 2080 to colonize Mars and Luna if we want to keep in line with the Halo timeline, which seems very doableI had a lot of time on my hands to write this, if you can’t tell lol
I would say that it doesn’t need a whole lot of explanation beyond the fact that we have seen other periods of human history with slow technological development for long stretches.
Furthermore there are many ancient technologies still in common use today (the bow and arrow, concrete, bicycles, good fillings and Bridges, books, the wheel, etc.) The point is if it works and works well there is no need to re invent it. Also in the Halo legends Cortana talks about humanity being fairly constantly locked in war with itself and until shaw-fujikawa (not sure on that spelling) drive is invented I would imaging most resources going to dealing with mass overpopulation. And then after that humanity has a short period of relative peace as they began to explore the stars. At this point technology is going to rise to meet the needs of settlers colonists and terriformers. Settlers and colonists have simpler needs as they are generally living a more agrarian life early on and I believe terriformation tech is a developed tech in Halo lore ( but don’t quote me on that). So I would say that even 500 years on its not a whole lot different than what I would expect to see in many areas of development
> 2535435902217648;5:
> I’ll do my best to respond to you here, but as said above, the whole point of sci-fi is to be in an alternate universe. But for the sake of discussion, I will say that Halo takes place in OUR future, and not in a different universe’s future:
> - Projectile weaponry has been around since arguably 10th century China with the invention of black powder. The only thing that has changed is how those projectiles are delivered to the target. For example, a musket required you to pack gun powder and a projectile into a barrel, load up a primer powder, strike the primer with something like flint, and then hope to a higher power that the projectile shoots straight. Now we have all of this encased inside a bullet with rifling along the barrel to ensure the projectile shoots straight. We have limited directed energy weaponry now, but it’s just really inefficient compared to kinetic energy weaponry, and that likely won’t change in 500 years - The Scorpion, Mongoose, and Warthog serve the same purpose as the tank, ATV, and humvee in the 21st century, respectively. These are each very useful designs for a variety of military applications, and that likely won’t change in 500 years either. The only difference would be the increased usage of air vehicles, but each of these ground vehicles are capable of being equipped with anti-air weaponry. And yes, people have in fact made real life warthogs. But none of them run on a hydrogen fuel cell like the ones in Halo - Civilian vehicles seen in New Mombasa are largely similar to hybrid and electric vehicles now probably because the developers were more focused on good game play and other big things and chose to put less time into brainstorming what civilian vehicles are gonna look like in 500 years - We are able to send humans to the moon, we just don’t because we don’t want to spend the money. Elon Musk is currently working on getting people to Mars, so we are beyond worrying about getting to the moon. NASA and other private companies are researching and developing carbon fiber threading for making space elevators, trying to find a way to get people on Mars and other planets, and many other things that I wouldn’t even understand. We have until 2080 to colonize Mars and Luna if we want to keep in line with the Halo timeline, which seems very doableI had a lot of time on my hands to write this, if you can’t tell lol
Thanks for the long reply, must took a long time. I just find it strange that some sci fi games/movies decides to drastically make things different/futuristic(can’t name one from the top of my head), while halo sticks largely to what we have now. Although we still use guns, our guns are very different than those from the 16th century. I just think warthogs are too similar to our present day counterparts. Giving the warthog a shield or an energy projectile weapon would be more suited to the time period imo(however, I know balancing gets in the way).
My overall point is, that there are somethings that are impossible to achieve with what we have today, so therefore, the halo universe does not pick up where we are presently at the 21st century.