Does Halo: Reach...not feel like Halo?

Hey guys, before I start as always I would like to stress that I am NOT complaining about anything, I am asking a serious question with respect to other members and hope to have that same respect shown back to me. I would also like to say that I am not a troll, i’m not a jerk who wants to bring Bungie or 343 down or anything like that, if you feel I have been like that please think of it from a different point of view instead of assuming I am raging, thank you.

Now, I started off my day by having a little game on Reach before leaving for work. Normally I try to finish some challenges and just chill out with some friends online. This morning was a bit different though, I got bored very quickly and turned off Reach an hour before I leave for work.

I go to work and come back, I want to chill with my Xbox buddies so I pop in Reach, still feel bored. I figured i’d play something different for a bit, I played a bit of Mass Effect before getting a huge craving for Halo: CE, I popped that in my PC (I have both versions but prefer PC over higher quality) and played through the whole thing. Amazing, simply amazing, felt like I was a kid again blasting those covies to bits when I played it for the first time. Like a drug I had to get some more so I put Halo 2 in and played through that too, I even had a few Matchmaking games too, great feeling to be playing classic Halo again. Did the exact same thing for Halo 3, loved it.

I love everything about Halo CE, Halo 2 and Halo 3. I wouldn’t say it’s all perfect but it’s a game I grew up with and have many fond memories with it, used to have a few games a week with my older brother. Awesome times :smiley:

Then I played Halo: Reach again and the fun kinda…stopped, I don’t know why but it just felt like a completely different game, it doesn’t feel like classic Halo. Ya know, how it all used to be? I could go into great detail but i’d be here for hours and i’d get replies saying “TL;DR”

I just want to ask you guys, if anyone here feels the same as I do. Even if it’s only a little, like that little shiver of doubt in the back of your mind, I just want to know that i’m not the only one.
As I said at the top, I am not trolling or trying to offend, i’m giving my personal honest opinion and I just want to hear everyone elses.

Some people may find this part slightly offensive, please understand that I do not mean to annoy or offend anyone, I cannot stress that enough.

In my personal and honest opinion, most people who play Halo these days, have no idea what it’s all about. I’m sorry to say but if you’ve never actually sat down and played Halo: CE, Halo 2 or Halo 3, you have no idea what Halo is all about.
I’m not saying that if you have only ever played Halo: Reach that your opinion is not valid or important, i’m just basically urging you to play the classic games, the ones that started it all. The good old days where you could play a game with someone, get totally wrecked and still have respect for one another at the end.

Halo has changed, some of it good. But IN MY OPINION, it’s mostly bad, and as upsetting as it is to say I almost gave up on Halo at some point. Then I saw 343i and what they are capable of doing and I can see Halo making a comeback.

TL;DR - Halo is not the same as it used to be, IN MY OPINION, it has changed for the worst and it’s attracted the wrong kind of attention.

As I said at the top, this is not fact, this is opinion from one diehard fan who only wants to know what the other diehard fans think, thank you for your time.
-Teh Spearhead

Well I think it’s because of the credit system

Most of the time we so get caught up in wanting to get credits that we forget to have any fun.

feels like halo to me.

I’ve always felt it didn’t feel like Halo either. Something is missing, but I can’t quite put my finger on it. Maybe just the mystery in it from the past games…that “alone” feeling.

> I’ve always felt it didn’t feel like Halo either. Something is missing, but I can’t quite put my finger on it. Maybe just the mystery in it from the past games…that “alone” feeling.

That’s what I mean, something is different and I can’t quite put my finger on it.

> feels like halo to me.

I agree, I don’t understand why people say it isn’t Halo. Though I have noticed that my opinions about Halo tend to be quite different than the majority

Reach feels more like Halo than H2 or H3 EVER did.

Well, Halo2 didn’t feel like Halo at first. Then Halo3 came out and it felt like 2. So both Halo2 and Halo3 made each other feel like Halo. But without each other, neither would feel like Halo compared to CE.

But then Reach came and it feels like CE in the same way 3 feels like 2… So hows that?

Of course my comparisons go beyond the superficial of any 1 or few things making the “core.” The physics, weapons and settings are what me Halo for me, not the means in which they are given to us.

Cheese taste like cheese to you guys? Can’t put my finger onit

> > I’ve always felt it didn’t feel like Halo either. Something is missing, but I can’t quite put my finger on it. Maybe just the mystery in it from the past games…that “alone” feeling.
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> That’s what I mean, something is different and I can’t quite put my finger on it.

I think its because they tried change to much to fast. In doing so some parts of the game dont work like they should. Areas of the game seem unfinished. I think thats the “feeling” your having.

Lets look at H3. H3 used the Halo game engine that had basically been around for 6 years. Reach is using a brand new one for the most part. In H3 the better players had a great understanding of the game system. If they did “A”, they knew “B” would happen and so on. In Reach things seem to be more random which many ppl dislike.

Just my 2 cents.

Halo3 was a whole new new engine and not an upgraded Halo2 engine. Reach is a heavily modified Halo3 engine to the point where they consider it a new engine, but is based off the Halo3 engine none the less.

Opinions are opinions but facts are facts.

Just saying too, as far as I have always read, Jetpacks were wanted for CE and Sprinting was wanted for Halo2 (by Bungie).

> feels like halo to me.

This ^

OP, this is not simple Nostalgia. You have just hit what the senior Halo community members call “enlightenment”. The realization that Halo: Reach is nothing like what a Halo game should be has hit you.

You said it yourself:
After playing Halo: CE again, you realized just how far away from a Halo game Reach actually is.

> the senior Halo community members call…

Seriously?

How frackin old and for how long to I have to of played Halo to invalidate this statement?

Reach is fine, go play something else if you don’t like it.

> Well I think it’s because of the credit system
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> Most of the time we so get caught up in wanting to get credits that we forget to have any fun.

I have to say this is so true, I love the way we unlock armors in Halo 3. You start a match trying to do crazy stuff, to earn some crazy achievements, I remember trying so hard for that Mongoose kill, ram into people whenever I can lol. But now if I want a new helmet or new piece of armor, I need to sit and just grind the credits, that makes the whole experience less fun and more work. Now because of this, I play less multi, and more campaign.

I’m missing the LAN effect. That’s what made Halo for me. Everyone played, everyone laughed. Now I don’t know where the population has gone.

Sometimes I like it, sometimes I hate it.

It’s not as much fun as the previous Halo games in my opinion.
When I go online I usually see a very low population(mainly because of the timezones. I live in Europe.) so it feels like I am playing a “dead” game.
Halo 3 had a bigger population whenever I went online. All my friends who loved Halo 3 stopped playing Reach a few weeks after the game was released because they didn’t like it.

I would have to say that every Halo game feels different to me, but its a good kind of different. The gameplay mechanics may have changed a bit more drastically from previous iterations of Halo, but I still feel immersed in the same universe that began with Halo:CE, nothing really seems out of place to me. Unless I am tired, I always have a good time playing with friends in matchmaking or just fooling around in any of the Halo campaigns.

> > the senior Halo community members call…
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> Seriously?
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> How frackin old and for how long to I have to of played Halo to invalidate this statement?
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> Reach is fine, go play something else if you don’t like it.

Since the beginning. Halo: CE, or Marathon before that.

> > > the senior Halo community members call…
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> > Seriously?
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> > How frackin old and for how long to I have to of played Halo to invalidate this statement?
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> > Reach is fine, go play something else if you don’t like it.
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> Since the beginning. Halo: CE, or Marathon before that.

Yeah, I qualify then.

But I disagree with your statement about senior Halo community members not liking this game.