Does Halo 5 Live Up to its Predecessors

Part 1 (Long Topic)
Part 2 will be in second post.
To start this topic off I am going to stay as subjective as possible in this post and refrain from my personal opinions, atleast until the end.

I will begin by listing every Halo FPS and provide what makes them “them.”

Halo CE

  • The first Halo game of the franchise. - Weapons at launch include: pistol, shotgun, sniper, assault rifle, rocket launcher, plasma rifle, plasma pistol, needler, frags, and stickies. - Later weapons include: flamethrower and fuel rod - Vehicles at launch include: scorpion, warthog, ghost, and banshee - Later vehicles include: Black and yellow warthog (lol) - Gametypes at launch (also used later with system link and non-official mp lobbies): slayer (+BTB), SWAT, oddball, CTF, KOTH, and race - Able to have 16 players in a game lobby - Featured a long and difficult (especially on legendary) campaign - Total multiplayer maps: 19 (6 DLC)Halo 2

  • Weapons include: br, smg, pistol, sniper, shotgun, rocket launcher, energy sword, fuel rod, needler, plasma rifle (red and blue), plasma pistol, carbine, sentinel beam, beam rifle, brute shot, frags, and stickies - Vehicles include: scorpion, warthog, gausshog, ghost, banshee, spectre, wraith, and mounted plasma and human turrets - Total multiplayer maps: 23 (9 DLC) - Total gametypes: assault, CTF, slayer (+BTB), SWAT, KOTH, snipers, juggernaut, and oddball - Powerups: overshield and active camo - Able to have 16 players for multiplayer - Featured a very long and arguably the most difficult Halo campaign - Featured Xbox Live - Slight armor customization - Dual weilding - No ar - Had to work for Bungie for Recon Armor - SkullsHalo 3

  • Weapons include: ar, br, smg, sniper, shotgun, rocket launcher, spartan laser, flamethrower, missile pod, turret (detachable) plasma pistol, plasma rifle (red and blue), plasma turret (detachable), beam rifle, sentinel beam, fuel rod, carbine, needler, energy sword, mauler, spiker, brute shot, frags, stickies, incendiaries, and spike grenades - Vehicles include: scorpion, mongoose, warthog, gausshog, hornet, banshee, ghost, wraith, chopper - Armor customization includes: helmet and torso - Featured Forge - 16 player Xbox Live - Gametypes include: slayer (+BTB), territories, juggernaut, infection, VIP, fiesta, oddball, KOTH, CTF, FFA, doubles, snipers, and assault - Total multiplayer maps: 20 (9 DLC) - Long and very difficult campaign - Dual weilding - Powerups: active camo, overshield, and custom traits - Equipment: flare, regen shiled, bubble shield, radar jammer, land mine, and energy drain - Had to work your -Yoink- off for Recon Armor - Skulls and terminalsHalo 3: ODST

  • Open world campaign - Addition of firefight - No multiplayer (as its a Halo 3 spinoff) - Addition of silenced smg and pistol - Intel items - Firefight maps: 10Halo: Reach

  • Long and difficult campaign - No skulls (to find), but intel items - Weapons include: ar, dmr, pistol, sniper, spartan laser, rocket launcher, shotgun, grenade launcher, plasma pistol, needle rifle, needler, plasma launcher, plasma repeater, focus rifle, energy sword, carbine, fuel rod, turret, plasma turret, frags, and stickies - New forge with phased and fixed objects - Vehicles include: warthog, gausshog, rocket hog, mongoose, falcon, scorpion, spectre, ghost, wraith, and banshee - Multiplayer maps: 23 (9 DLC) - Firefight maps: 8 - No dual weild - 16 player online - Game modes include: slayer (+BTB), infection, invasion, CTF, KOTH, oddball (+grifball), fiesta, SWAT, juggernaut, FFA, race, assault, and doubles - Armor abilities: armor lock, sprint, evade, hologram, jetpack, drop shield, and regen shield - Power ups: over shield, active camo, damage boost, and custom - Armor customization: helmet (and attachments), torso, shoulders, forearms, visor, legs, effects, and firefight voices - No VIP - CR system

Halo 4

  • Mid length and challenging campaign - No skulls (to find) but terminals - Weapons include: ar, br, dmr, pistol, shotgun, spartan laser, rocket launcher, SAW, sniper, railgun, plasma pistol, plasma rifle, storm rifle, beam rifle, fuel rod, energy sword, needler, carbine, suppressor, boltshot, incineration cannon, scattershot, light rifle, binary rifle, turret, plasma turret, frag, stickies, and pulse grenades - Vehicles include: mongoose, warthog, gausshog, rocket hog, scorpion, banshee, ghost, mantis, and wraith - Multiplayer maps: 24 (10 DLC) - Game modes include: slayer (+BTB), extraction, SWAT, fiesta, KOTH, CTF, oddball (+grifball), juggernaut, regicide, FFA, infection, race, snipers, ricochet, doubles, and dominion - Spartan Ops - Armor customization: helmet, visor, torso, stance, and legs - No firefight - Custom loadouts - Sprint - Armor abilities: promethean vision, jetpack, thruster pack, active camo, hologram, autosentry, and hardlight shield - Tactical packages: shielding, mobility, resupply, AA efficiency, firepower, grenadier, fasttrack, wheelman, resistor, requisition - Support: ammo, awareness, dexterity, sensor, explosives, ordinance priority, drop recon, gunner, nemesis, stability, stealth, recharge, survivor - Magnets in forge - 16 player multiplayer - Powerups: overshield, damage boost, active camo, speed boost, and customHalo 5: Guardians:

  • Multiplayer modes: CTF, slayer (+BTB after DLC), FFA, breakout, strongholds, and SWAT - 24 player Warzone - 16 player multiplayer - Weapons include: ar, br, dmr, pistol, sniper, smg, rocket launcher, spartan laser, railgun, shotgun, plasma caster, fuel rod, energy sword, binary rifle, plasma rifle, needler, plasma pistol, storm rifle, carbine, light rifle, scattershot, incineration cannon, binary rifle, boltshot, and suppressor (+reqs) - Vehicles include: scorpion, mantis, mongoose, gungoose, warthog, gausshog, rocket hog, ghost, banshee, wraith, and phaeton (+reqs) - No Spartan Ops - Revolutionary Forge (DLC) - Multiplayer maps: 21 (5 breakout and 7 DLC and 6 of the DLC are forged) - Warzone maps: 4 (1 DLC) - Short but challenging campaign - No armor abilities - No loadouts - Clamber - Spartan charge and ground pound - Thrusters - Unlimited sprint - Req system - Armor customization: helmet, visor, and torso - free DLCIMO
    I think Halo 5: Guardians is an extremely fun game, especially Breakout and Warzone. HOWEVER, it is also extremely disappointing. The campaign was ok and didnt live up to this intense “greatest hunt ever” scheme 343 played (and don’t say it, because I know Locke hunted Chief, but it was more of saving him). You also barely played as Chief, very disappointing as most of us dont care about Locke, Chief is the reclaimer afterall. Aside from the short campaign, which I found fairly easy (compared to other Halos) on Legendary, the multiplayer is fun, but awful. Warzone is cool, but 24 players? Thats it, I mean its next gen (am I correct?) and 16 player lobby caps have been in Halo for 15 years so I expected something more than an extra 8 players. The customization is disappointing, look at Reach, thats 6 years old and puts this customization to shame. Its also awful that we have the same amount of gametypes as Halo CE, which is 15 years old (hmmmmm). As for the Reqs I am honestly undecided but I think that we should earn customizations. This free DLC mojo isnt DLC either, look at the other Halos; this DLC is content in every other Halo delayed to look like DLC (wow 343 thanks for making everyone wait for the Halo we love). Forge is amazing, but again the lack of gametypes is restricting. Halo 5 also only released with 9 REAL maps for slayer and the other 1 gametype. While I see a lot wrong I thoroughly enjoy the gameplay style, but 343 failed to reach its potential in a game that seems to be a very large beta. For those who think the community is “privileged,” we are because weve played and seen the other Halos.

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Forgive me if I missed anything

Most people here know what each halo game had/has. Thanks

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i know that but there are many people that think they were unnecessary or 343 is perfect in free DLC and the lackluster content that is out now

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No one thinks that I’m sorry. Where are you getting this info?

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on almost every single forum, just look its all over the place. we argue we should have gametypes and people say the community is “entitled” just look at the top 3 threads. where r u getting the info that no one thinks this

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He is in fact right quite a few do have this opinion Me not included of course although i do think they could provide better updates.

> i know that but there are many people that think they were unnecessary or 343 is perfect in free DLC and the lackluster content that is out now. Sorry I could make out what you meant by they, an also though you were saying people thought 343 was perfect.

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> He is in fact right quite a few do have this opinion Me not included of course although i do think they could provide better updates.

Im surprised they havent put more effort into the updates after the uproar on waypoint. They did afterall say they want community feedback and they announced gametypes for “future updates,” but i dont see why they werent included in the first place

Halo 5 is the worst game ever to be given the name “Halo”. I could give a long list of reasons why its terrible but I’d just be wasting my time.

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> > i know that but there are many people that think they were unnecessary or 343 is perfect in free DLC and the lackluster content that is out now. Sorry I could make out what you meant by they, an also though you were saying people thought 343 was perfect.

I have seen several posts from people saying 343 is “doing their job,” “perfect,” “right not to add unnecessary gametypes (but they are necessary),” “you guys are entitled atleast we get free DLC.” If i see these around ill link them but theyre all over. And with free DLC it is more of “lets complete the game as the year passes content” aka LCTGATYPC

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> Halo 5 is the worst game ever to be given the name “Halo”. I could give a long list of reasons why its terrible but I’d just be wasting my time.

lmao i understand but i do like the overall gameplay atleast IMO, but youre right there is a lot wrong

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I rest my case, your right.

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> Halo 5 is the worst game ever to be given the name “Halo”. I could give a long list of reasons why its terrible but I’d just be wasting my time.

I Have to agree thus far the worse of all the Halo games was expecting much more for all the hype it was given, But honest I am new to 5, only been in it a few weeks but it hasn’t grabbed me the way the others have.

Great post OP, i agree with basically everything. i just wish the people who don’t share our opinions would be a little bit more understanding of our fustration rather than calling us “entitled -Yoinks!-”

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> Great post OP, i agree with basically everything. i just wish the people who don’t share our opinions would be a little bit more understanding of our fustration rather than calling us “entitled -Yoinks!-”

Lmao ikr that really gets on my nerves. And thanks!

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> > Great post OP, i agree with basically everything. i just wish the people who don’t share our opinions would be a little bit more understanding of our fustration rather than calling us “entitled -Yoinks!-”
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Truth is that most of the people saying those things are either in denial or have low expectations to content in their halo game. But yeah thats the way things are im afraid. I’m hoping maybe we’ll get a halo 3 A release for like $30 of £ that isn’t broken, God i loved that game! Halo wars 2 comes out this year so atleast I’ll have something to do but i feel sorry for people who dislike RTS games, here’s hoping 343 will add infection or Griffball, maybe that’ll spike the population but who knows.

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> Truth is that most of the people saying those things are either in denial or have low expectations to content in their halo game. But yeah thats the way things are im afraid. I’m hoping maybe we’ll get a halo 3 A release for like $30 of £ that isn’t broken, God i loved that game! Halo wars 2 comes out this year so atleast I’ll have something to do but i feel sorry for people who dislike RTS games, here’s hoping 343 will add infection or Griffball, maybe that’ll spike the population but who knows.

I think Halo 3A would be awesome but unfortunately unlikely. Halo CEA marked 10 years since the birth of the franchise. Halo 2A marked 10 years since Halo on Xbox Live and was an addition to MCC. Halo 3A would come out in 2017, but HW2 comes out next fall, and Halo 3A would only mark 10 years since Halo3, nothing else. Halo 3 was also on the 360 which is a pat of the “modern era of consoles” I suppose. Dont get me wrong, I’d love to see it, but im not faithful enough to believe it will.