I wish the file share was up so I could upload the clip where I got a double kill with one shot in swat because one guy was standing SLIGHTLY over to the right of another and they both got headshot with one shot of my Battle Rifle.
I’ve taken to using the BR because I’m trying to get the Mastery for the BR, but I’m disgusted at how much easier it is to get kills with over the DMR, which is my favorite weapon.
I mean seriously, I play SWAT… my favorite game type, and it amazes me how many people have taken to the BR because of this. You have nearly the same range as the DMR but it shoots 3 rounds per trigger pull. True, it’s not as accurate as the DMR, but it doesn’t NEED to because of the slight spread of the rounds.
Does anyone know if there any downside to using the BR over the DMR?
EDIT: I was informed that it wasn’t clear that I’m discussing SWAT.
That’s the game type I play the most and have the most experience with.
Not a 3x zoom like dmr
Burst shot not single shot
Spread
Slower killtime
Recoil
The only pros on the Br are more aim assist and it’s easier to get a headshot with 3 round burst. Other than that dmr wins everytime hands down.
If your referring to swat: Br wins because of everything above.
EDIT: re read your post. For swat the downside for using te dmr is lack of 3x zoom (not needed on most maps) and that’s about it. Maybe the higher ROF helps too for dmr but not by much.
EDIT: not a troll xD wasn’t sure due to all the OmGz DmR is Op’Ed threads and thought this might have been a joke about those"
Swat does not encompass the actual sandbox of Halo 4 or how influences weapon behaviors due to having no shields. Therefore, you cannot judge a weapon based on that, unless we are doing this within the confines of the SWAT gametype. In that case, the BR is actually really good due to burst fire.
The BR is anything but OP in normal gametypes. I mean it’s decent but the DMR just poops all over it.
Why? The BR (like the two rifles) has drawbacks (recoil, burst fire, shorter scope) while the DMR does not (better scope, no recoil, no bloom, solid ROF).
The 3 bullets from a BR burst equals 1 DMR bullet but this requires even more effort on the BR user to land those 3 bullets but humans tend to miss (therefore, you are not doing the damage you should be doing). When you factor in strafe, weaving in and out of cover and better aim, latency, this isn’t’ always possible and the DMR will usually come out on top due to being the easier/effective gun to use.
> <mark>Troll?</mark> And yes there are downsides.
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> Not a 3x zoom like dmr
> Burst shot not single shot
> Spread
> Slower killtime
> Recoil
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> The only pros on the Br are more aim assist and it’s easier to get a headshot with 3 round burst. Other than that dmr wins everytime hands down.
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> If your referring to swat: Br wins because of everything above.
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> EDIT: re read your post. For swat the downside for using te dmr is lack of 3x zoom (not needed on most maps) and that’s about it. Maybe the higher ROF helps too for dmr but not by much.
NO, not a troll. I am simply voicing my opinion and asking if anyone else agrees. I LOVE Halo 4 and I’m only stating what I’ve formed an opinion about.
How is that being considered a Troll?
> > <mark>Troll?</mark> And yes there are downsides.
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> > Not a 3x zoom like dmr
> > Burst shot not single shot
> > Spread
> > Slower killtime
> > Recoil
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> > The only pros on the Br are more aim assist and it’s easier to get a headshot with 3 round burst. Other than that dmr wins everytime hands down.
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> > If your referring to swat: Br wins because of everything above.
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> > EDIT: re read your post. For swat the downside for using te dmr is lack of 3x zoom (not needed on most maps) and that’s about it. Maybe the higher ROF helps too for dmr but not by much.
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> NO, not a troll. I am simply voicing my opinion and asking if anyone else agrees. I LOVE Halo 4 and I’m only stating what I’ve formed an opinion about.
> How is theat being considered a Troll?
I didn’t mean to imply yor a troll. I saw Br is OP and thought “oh here is someone making a sarcastic comment because its the opposite of the majority of the community” I see you mean swat I will edit my post.
OT: tbh like the guy above said: swat is just a single game mode. Weapons are not tuned specifically for it
> > > <mark>Troll?</mark> And yes there are downsides.
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> > > Not a 3x zoom like dmr
> > > Burst shot not single shot
> > > Spread
> > > Slower killtime
> > > Recoil
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> > >
> > > The only pros on the Br are more aim assist and it’s easier to get a headshot with 3 round burst. Other than that dmr wins everytime hands down.
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> > > If your referring to swat: Br wins because of everything above.
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> > >
> > > EDIT: re read your post. For swat the downside for using te dmr is lack of 3x zoom (not needed on most maps) and that’s about it. Maybe the higher ROF helps too for dmr but not by much.
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> > NO, not a troll. I am simply voicing my opinion and asking if anyone else agrees. I LOVE Halo 4 and I’m only stating what I’ve formed an opinion about.
> > How is theat being considered a Troll?
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> I didn’t mean to imply yor a troll. I saw Br is OP and thought “oh here is someone making a sarcastic comment because its the opposite of the majority of the community” I see you mean swat I will edit my post.
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> OT: tbh like the guy above said: swat is just a single game mode. Weapons are not tuned specifically for it
No problem. I didn’t have enough sapce in the Topic Title or the Poll Title to Specify if people thought it was OP in SWAT. I thought it was made understandable in my Original Post. I’ll edit the OP to clarify.
It is. The only weapon from the utility rifles to not be hitscan is the LightRifle.
Despite the BR being hitscan (which is a really good thing after coming off Halo 3), the DMR is also hitscan and like i said before, it’s superior in every way due to ease of use and no drawbacks. The BR has plenty of that ;/
> Swat does not encompass the actual sandbox of Halo 4 or how influences weapon behaviors due to having no shields. Therefore, you cannot judge a weapon based on that, unless we are doing this within the confines of the SWAT gametype. In that case, the BR is actually really good due to burst fire.
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> The BR is anything but OP in normal gametypes. I mean it’s decent but the DMR just poops all over it.
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> Why? The BR (like the two rifles) has drawbacks (recoil, burst fire, shorter scope) while the DMR does not (better scope, no recoil, no bloom, solid ROF).
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> The 3 bullets from a BR burst equals 1 DMR bullet but this requires even more effort on the BR user to land those 3 bullets but humans tend to miss (therefore, you are not doing the damage you should be doing). When you factor in strafe, weaving in and out of cover and better aim, latency, this isn’t’ always possible and the DMR will usually come out on top due to being the easier/effective gun to use.
True it takes more skill in standard game types, however when playing SWAT all you need to do is aim in the general direction of a players head(no scoping needed) and BECAUSE of the burst spread you have an EXCELLENT chance of a headshot. Only one round has to hit. To clarify, I WAS scoping when I got the one shot double headshot.
I won’t argue the BRs effectiveness because i use it when i play in SWAT AND you can “swipe” the thumbstick during the burst. Obviously, this tactic is looked down upon as “unskillful” and “uncompetitive”. Of course, is the DMR any better in regards to skill? lulz.
BR overpowered? Definitely not.
Once I got Halo 4, the DMR was my immediate choice.
I never was any good with the BR.
But once I mastered the DMR, I decided to begin using the BR.
I’m about 900 kills away from mastering it.
And I can say, without a doubt, that the BR is not overpowered.
I recall a situation in which I had run out of ammo for my BR and Magnum.
I found a DMR lying on the ground and had no choice.
Once I picked it up, it was immediately obvious that the DMR was much better.
Ultimately, the DMR is overpowered and the BR is not.
> I won’t argue the BRs effectiveness because i use it when i play in SWAT AND you can “swipe” the thumbstick during the burst. Obviously, this tactic is looked down upon as “unskillful” and “uncompetitive”. Of course, is the DMR any better in regards to skill? lulz.
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> [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BgSY3Sj9wCY]This video supports the BR is good in Swat and the rest of the content is really cool](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BgSY3Sj9wCY)
LOL, great video. And yeah almost exactly like that, but two guys not three.