Does anyone else feel threatened by Locke?

Now now, hear me out…

Does anyone else feel threatened by Locke? What I mean is the fact that he could be very well replacing the chief or be replacing the chief as a playable character. I don’t know why, but as a long time halo fan I feel… threatened by this… I don’t want to stop playing as chief in halo 5 (please note I’m OK with switching like in halo 2) I don’t WANT Locke to replace the chief (possibly) in halo 6 or even… 9… if we get that far. For some reason as a longtime halo player, I just can’t stand Locke sometimes… I’m not 100% sure why, but when ever I think or read about him being a match for the chief or just… being his REPLACEMENT, it irks and (to be frank) scares me.

However I would be OK… with it as long as it wasn’t abrupt and chief went out in a good hardcore way befitting of his character. I don’t mind Locke on his own at all, I think in Nightfall he was… decent. Heck, even if he was in a standalone spin off of halo I would not mind. But as Ive said before it just bothers me when he’s in context with the chief.

Maybe I’m just a long time die hard of old halo or maybe I just don’t want to see it change… (Yes, I do understand it MUST change hands, and I have no problem with that), But for some reason it just seems… wrong. Does anyone else feel with way or am I just crazy?

343 aren’t going to abruptly drop the Chief in favor of Locke. Personally I’d be more than happy to switch over to Locke after Halo 5, moreso after Frankie came out as said they wanted to still continue his development as a person while still coddling the fans who would simply use Chief as a self-insert. I don’t see it ending well.

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> Now now, hear me out…
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> Does anyone else feel threatened by Locke? What I mean is the fact that he could be very well replacing the chief or be replacing the chief as a playable character. I don’t know why, but as a long time halo fan I feel… threatened by this… I don’t want to stop playing as chief in halo 5 (please note I’m OK with switching like in halo 2) I don’t WANT Locke to replace the chief (possibly) in halo 6 or even… 9… if we get that far. For some reason as a longtime halo player, I just can’t stand Locke sometimes… I’m not 100% sure why, but when ever I think or read about him being a match for the chief or just… being his REPLACEMENT, it irks and (to be frank) scares me.
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> However I would be OK… with it as long as it wasn’t abrupt and chief went out in a good hardcore way befitting of his character. I don’t mind Locke on his own at all, I think in Nightfall he was… decent. Heck, even if he was in a standalone spin off of halo I would not mind. But as Ive said before it just bothers me when he’s in context with the chief.
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> Maybe I’m just a long time die hard of old halo or maybe I just don’t want to see it change… (Yes, I do understand it MUST change hands, and I have no problem with that), But for some reason it just seems… wrong. Does anyone else feel with way or am I just crazy?

Something along the lines of H2 would work for me. We see both characters fighting and doing spartan stuff, and then meeting near the end to stop the common threat.
I don’t feel threatened by Locke “replacing” MC.

Dude some fans are very sensitive about this topic… 343 has confirmed many a time Locke isn’t replacing chief he’s just there to give us another pov in campaign something that IMO has been sorely needed but missing since halo 3 odst. But to answer your question no I’m not threatened by Locke he’s his own entity that in no way threatens the legacy that is the Master Chief. That’s really something impossible to do even if 343 hypothetically killed the MC Locke couldn’t replace him just stay cozy we’ll see where Locke’s character goes soon.

Yes

Honestly I feel like the ‘threat’ of locke is overly exaggerated by the fanbase. From what little we know of his role, it sounds like he’s merely playing second fiddle to Chief, and his role is more to tell a story you really can’t if you constantly focus on chief.

As for him being a match for Chief, I’m really tired of the building notion over the years that chief is the best spartan in terms of combat capability. In FoR and even what I recall of First Strike, the only thing he notably seems to excel at is leadership ability. This is why others are attached to him. Blue team alone has other areas that they excell at, with Fred ‘chosing’ to be 2nd best, and Linda pulling off ridiculous sniper antics. Unfortunately, halo has not been a series of games that have actually showcased what makes him great.

Instead, its relied on his luck. As we all know, Chief has saved the human race and even the galaxy from a number of threats time and time again. But part of his luck seems to be his ability to simply be there to do it.

At Reach’s fall, which is the first time spartans have shields en-mass (and not just random testing in halo wars), Chief’s the only able one who makes it to Installation 04 for his first big act of heroics. Where are the other spartans? Ordered down to defend a doomed planet from the elite’s pants-on-head plan given their super ship. The other two were shot off into space, and unloaded on by a needler. Neither event was the fault of the spartan themselves, merely the circumstances they ended up in. So, chief goes to I04 and gets to be a hero largely because he wasn’t sent on the suicide mission. There’s no indication the other spartans couldn’t have done similar things as him on I04, as they are never even given a chance to try.

After the destruction of I04, he is reuinted with Blue team, and his most notable combat acts in that book are struggling with an elite and a brute, whereas Linda is sniping people out of banshees while upside down hanging from a cord.

So, then halo 2 rolls around. Where is blue team? Off being questioned by ONI about stuff. Once again, not their fault they aren’t there on Cairo station to fight alongside chief, and end up on the ship that chases regret. Once again, other spartans aren’t given a chance through no fault of their own.

Then halo 3 rolls around. Where is blue team? Inside a forerunner shield world due to Ghosts of Onyx. Honestly chief seems toned down in ‘superness’ from h2 (where he could have completed RED FLAG on his own) with elites effectively saving earth from the flood, and the arbiter being there to help him on a lot of key operations. Johnson repeatedly failing seems to be a plot device used to make chief feel needed.

It’s halo 4 that we finally see some other spartans in game, and they are the rather ‘new’ S-IV’s lead by a cowardly captain and a commander who loves just charging in and insulting everything (you know…I’m kind of curious how her and Del Rio ever got along). Sadly blue team is just kind of in limbo, and brought back in a comic. In the comic, the team seems rather equal again. Chief does get a stab at the didact’s eye, but thats because the didact has a personal grudge on chief and couldn’t just kill him normally, but had to bond-villain it up.

That all being said, the ‘replacement plot’ as has been brought into halo is usually one in media where the hero proves they cannot be replaced, not that they are actually replaced.

Nah, I’m not threatened by him. I think he’s just going to be a new character added to the cast. Not really going to replace anyone, just a new character. Like Lasky, or Palmer, or Majestic.

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> Honestly I feel like the ‘threat’ of locke is overly exaggerated by the fanbase. From what little we know of his role, it sounds like he’s merely playing second fiddle to Chief, and his role is more to tell a story you really can’t if you constantly focus on chief.
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> As for him being a match for Chief, I’m really tired of the building notion over the years that chief is the best spartan in terms of combat capability. In FoR and even what I recall of First Strike, the only thing he notably seems to excel at is leadership ability. This is why others are attached to him. Blue team alone has other areas that they excell at, with Fred ‘chosing’ to be 2nd best, and Linda pulling off ridiculous sniper antics. Unfortunately, halo has not been a series of games that have actually showcased what makes him great.
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> Instead, its relied on his luck. As we all know, Chief has saved the human race and even the galaxy from a number of threats time and time again. But part of his luck seems to be his ability to simply be there to do it.
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> At Reach’s fall, which is the first time spartans have shields en-mass (and not just random testing in halo wars), Chief’s the only able one who makes it to Installation 04 for his first big act of heroics. Where are the other spartans? Ordered down to defend a doomed planet from the elite’s pants-on-head plan given their super ship. The other two were shot off into space, and unloaded on by a needler. Neither event was the fault of the spartan themselves, merely the circumstances they ended up in. So, chief goes to I04 and gets to be a hero largely because he wasn’t sent on the suicide mission. There’s no indication the other spartans couldn’t have done similar things as him on I04, as they are never even given a chance to try.
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> After the destruction of I04, he is reuinted with Blue team, and his most notable combat acts in that book are struggling with an elite and a brute, whereas Linda is sniping people out of banshees while upside down hanging from a cord.
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> So, then halo 2 rolls around. Where is blue team? Off being questioned by ONI about stuff. Once again, not their fault they aren’t there on Cairo station to fight alongside chief, and end up on the ship that chases regret. Once again, other spartans aren’t given a chance through no fault of their own.
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> Then halo 3 rolls around. Where is blue team? Inside a forerunner shield world due to Ghosts of Onyx. Honestly chief seems toned down in ‘superness’ from h2 (where he could have completed RED FLAG on his own) with elites effectively saving earth from the flood, and the arbiter being there to help him on a lot of key operations. Johnson repeatedly failing seems to be a plot device used to make chief feel needed.
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> It’s halo 4 that we finally see some other spartans in game, and they are the rather ‘new’ S-IV’s lead by a cowardly captain and a commander who loves just charging in and insulting everything (you know…I’m kind of curious how her and Del Rio ever got along). Sadly blue team is just kind of in limbo, and brought back in a comic. In the comic, the team seems rather equal again. Chief does get a stab at the didact’s eye, but thats because the didact has a personal grudge on chief and couldn’t just kill him normally, but had to bond-villain it up.
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> That all being said, the ‘replacement plot’ as has been brought into halo is usually one in media where the hero proves they cannot be replaced, not that they are actually replaced.

My thoughts exactly

This would be the third time I’ve had to share this article over the last two months.

Locke is Nick Carroway to Chief’s Gatsby.

The Great Gatsby is all about Gatsby, but you see it from Nick’s perspective because it works best from a writing standpoint.

Sometimes, characters can only be explored through interaction from other characters. Considering that Chief isn’t a particularly self-reflective or monologue- prone, the only real way to develope his character is through other people.

Locke is to halo what raiden was for MGS 2… a means to introduce new comers to the halo universe.

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> Locke is to halo what raiden was for MGS 2… a means to introduce new comers to the halo universe.

i think Locke could be as bad -Yoink- as Raiden was for MGS, I really hope one of the new novels for even the comic address him more He has so much potenial

He is a good soldier charismatic but he isnt like palmer he will question orders if they are wrong

Only person I’d really be happy with replacing MC as a playable character is Buck from ODST.

OT: No I don’t see Locke replacing MC

Locke can’t become the main character because any african american protagonist is always killed off first :Kappa:

He is a interesting character in Nightfall. I am looking forward to Halo 5 how he is in there.
But if someone has to replace good old John then it schould be Edward Buck

nah man! im excited to see him in H5G!

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> Locke is Nick Carroway to Chief’s Gatsby.
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> The Great Gatsby is all about Gatsby, but you see it from Nick’s perspective because it works best from a writing standpoint.
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> Sometimes, characters can only be explored through interaction from other characters. Considering that Chief isn’t a particularly self-reflective or monologue- prone, the only real way to develope his character is through other people.

I liked the literary reference. I hope Chiefs fate does not mirror Gatsby’s though.

Not really. Halo 2 showed us that having 2 playable characters in halo works just fine, also 343 has confirmed cheif to still be the main character

Locke has not proven himself in any combat role yet, so I look forward to seeing how he deals with legit threats.