Does a Regen work when I Hardlight Shield?

Does anyone know if a Regen will recharge someone’s shields while they are actively using a Hardlight Shield?
Please post sources for me if you can =)

Over at THC / MLG some people and myself have been discussing the Regen and the Hardlight Shield being used together by a team. We know that the Regen won’t heal someone as they take damage, but as soon as they stop taking damage, their shields start healing.

This makes it seem like someone with a Hardlight Shield in that Regen would be VERY strong because the person with the Hardlight Shield could prevent himself and any teammates behind him from taking damage, causing shields to recharge even though they are being shot at.

I’ve heard a rumor that someone actively using a Hardlight Shield will not be able to recharge their own shields until they stop using the Hardlight Shield (if you have a source proving or disproving this, I would like it as well). With that potentially being true, does anyone know:

If someone is standing in a Regeneration Field and begins using a Hardlight Shield, will the players shields be charged by the Regeneration Field?

Again, I’d really like to see sources if anyone has them. I keep reading different rumors and speculations on the topic, but I am looking for the truth.

Thanks ahead of time =)

Yes I believe it does. I played at Eurogamer and used it to survive the incineration cannon, and just before I died I used the Hardlight shield while my shields were recharging. I am unsure though due to the fact that the ini-cannon obliterated me shortly after.

> Yes I believe it does. I played at Eurogamer and used it to survive the incineration cannon, and just before I died I used the Hardlight shield while my shields were recharging. I am unsure though due to the fact that the ini-cannon obliterated me shortly after.

Did your shields start rechargng in the Regen before or after you used the Hardlight?

Why wouldn’t it? It directly supports teamwork among the different AA’s.

That would be like them muting your mic while using Promethean Vision so you can’t tell your teammates where the enemies are.

> Why wouldn’t it? It directly supports teamwork among the different AA’s.
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> That would be like them muting your mic while using Promethean Vision so you can’t tell your teammates where the enemies are.

Well the whole “heavy + medic” combo tends to be extremely powerful in class based games like TF2 and Gotham City Imposters. Like, if you aren’t abusing the combo and they are you lose. Period. Because of that, one would assume that 343 would know to be careful about keeping the Regen + Hardlight Shield combo balanced.

We were discussing if a team using Regens and Hardlight Shields could be overpowered in the same way if played right, but someone mentioned that shields don’t recharge while you’re using a Hardlight Shield. I’m trying to ask around to see if anyone knows if that also applies to the Regen as well.

Edit

Just to be clear, if the combo ends up being strong I fully intend of abusing the Regen until it’s patched lol.

> > Why wouldn’t it? It directly supports teamwork among the different AA’s.
> >
> > That would be like them muting your mic while using Promethean Vision so you can’t tell your teammates where the enemies are.
>
> Well the whole “heavy + medic” combo tends to be extremely powerful in class based games like TF2 and Gotham City Imposters. Like, if you aren’t abusing the combo and they are you lose. Period. Because of that, one would assume that 343 would know to be careful about keeping the Regen + Hardlight Shield combo balanced.
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> We were discussing if a team using Regens and Hardlight Shields could be overpowered in the same way if played right, but someone mentioned that shields don’t recharge while you’re using a Hardlight Shield. I’m trying to ask around to see if anyone knows if that also applies to the Regen as well.
>
> Edit
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> Just to be clear, if the combo ends up being strong I fully intend of abusing the Regen until it’s patched lol.

OFF: A Spy can perfectly take out the Heavy+Medic combo with the YER (Your eternal reward).

ON: Nah I don’t think it’ll be that big of a deal, the regen isn’t like Halo 3’s, it’s mcuh slower and the person using it has to wait another 30 seconds or so to use it again.

It seems op at first, but there’ll be plenty of ways around it.

its not like hardlight shield lasts long enough for it to matter to begin with and if you used the hardlight shield properly to begin with, you shouldnt have taken much damage and not really need regen anyways. i see no potential problem with this. and besides, hardlight sheild can be used to protect those regenerating long enough for them to get enough shields to assist the HLS user. its all about team tactics.

> It seems op at first, but there’ll be plenty of ways around it.

Oh i didnt know you played the game you must have a time machine

You need to be out of combat for 5 seconds before your shields start regenerating.

> You need to be out of combat for 5 seconds before your shields start regenerating.

In a Regen? Not true, as evidenced by 5:05 and 5:39 of this video:

Wont be much of a problem, HardLight Shield in itself is quite vulnerable, I only see elite teams using them in a combo to create a Phalanx of sorts, but this will also leave them open to other attacks regardless. The Hardlight Shield by itself is simply not strong enough to survive a onslaught that would keep multiple team mates alive, even while another teammate uses the Regeneration field as a support.

It will take a larger number of people to use the abilitys together efficiently in my opinion, perhaps we will see the full potential of them in playlists like Big Team Battle however. I would assume that your shields will recharge regardless anytime your not taking shots from opponents like normal, but I am having a hard time finding a video of the two Armor Abilitys being used together :/.

> > It seems op at first, but there’ll be plenty of ways around it.
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> Oh i didnt know you played the game you must have a time machine

He said it SEEMS op at first. I think you’ve been reading too many complaint threads.

I know this sounds a little off topic but does the Shielding mod assist you in a Regeneration Field?

regen doesn’t start charging you as soon as you stop taking damage, theres a cooldown period so you have to wait a while after taking damage for it to charge you.

Does a regen also charge enemy shields if they get inside it? I’m guessing it does…

> Nah I don’t think it’ll be that big of a deal, the regen isn’t like Halo 3’s, it’s mcuh slower and the person using it has to wait another 30 seconds or so to use it again.

Wait, what? 30 seconds? That sounds WAY too weak. I don’t think it’s 30 sec. Maybe 10 sec.

> regen doesn’t start charging you as soon as you stop taking damage, theres a cooldown period so you have to wait a while after taking damage for it to charge you.

You should watch the video I posted. It’s nearly instant after the Regen deploy animation finishes.

Anyway, thanks for the feedback guys. Especially Eco Maiden for the info =)

> > Why wouldn’t it? It directly supports teamwork among the different AA’s.
> >
> > That would be like them muting your mic while using Promethean Vision so you can’t tell your teammates where the enemies are.
>
> Well the whole “heavy + medic” combo tends to be extremely powerful in class based games like TF2 and Gotham City Imposters. Like, if you aren’t abusing the combo and they are you lose. Period. Because of that, one would assume that 343 would know to be careful about keeping the Regen + Hardlight Shield combo balanced.
>
> We were discussing if a team using Regens and Hardlight Shields could be overpowered in the same way if played right, but someone mentioned that shields don’t recharge while you’re using a Hardlight Shield. I’m trying to ask around to see if anyone knows if that also applies to the Regen as well.
>
> Edit
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> Just to be clear, if the combo ends up being strong I fully intend of abusing the Regen until it’s patched lol.

HLS Gameplay at 0:00-0:55

At 0:45 it appears he shields for full duration and his shields did not recharge and he died because of it.

> > > Why wouldn’t it? It directly supports teamwork among the different AA’s.
> > >
> > > That would be like them muting your mic while using Promethean Vision so you can’t tell your teammates where the enemies are.
> >
> > Well the whole “heavy + medic” combo tends to be extremely powerful in class based games like TF2 and Gotham City Imposters. Like, if you aren’t abusing the combo and they are you lose. Period. Because of that, one would assume that 343 would know to be careful about keeping the Regen + Hardlight Shield combo balanced.
> >
> > We were discussing if a team using Regens and Hardlight Shields could be overpowered in the same way if played right, but someone mentioned that shields don’t recharge while you’re using a Hardlight Shield. I’m trying to ask around to see if anyone knows if that also applies to the Regen as well.
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> > Edit
> >
> > Just to be clear, if the combo ends up being strong I fully intend of abusing the Regen until it’s patched lol.
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> HLS Gameplay at 0:00-0:55
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> At 0:45 it appears he shields for full duration and his shields did not recharge and he died because of it.

Awesome, thank you =)