Does 343i suck at making halo?

As title says, does 343i suck at making halo games.

Yes, they messed up halo 4 and 5

No, they didn’t mess up Halo 4 or 5. Why does everyone love to hate 343?

they’re not doing brilliantly but I don’t think they’re doing any worse than Bungie would be to be honest.

> 2533274907624408;3:
> No, they didn’t mess up Halo 4 or 5. Why does everyone love to hate 343?

That’s why there’s more people playing reach than halo 4 lol

343 took away the one feeling i felt that i liked while i played these games isolation sure some marines would pop up later in a level but then they would die and you would be alone being hunted by aliens with no-one but curtana and the voice of sgt johnson on the radio and i never encountered another spartan in the original trilogy so it sort of made master chief as sort of that epic hero who’s face is never seen and is the last of his kind

in a sense there was a sort of eeriness and epicness

and 343 took that away

with there flashy new spartans and giving master chief a more vocal role

> 2533274820548579;5:
> > 2533274907624408;3:
> > No, they didn’t mess up Halo 4 or 5. Why does everyone love to hate 343?
>
>
> That’s why there’s more people playing reach than halo 4 lol

There’s more people playing Reach than Halo 5 lol

No. I think they are just misguided.

Hate to say it, but they do. They are great with the Lore(most of the time), but putting it into a game form… well that’s another story.

> 2533274793616507;10:
> > 2533274820548579;5:
> > > 2533274907624408;3:
> > > No, they didn’t mess up Halo 4 or 5. Why does everyone love to hate 343?
> >
> >
> > That’s why there’s more people playing reach than halo 4 lol
>
>
> There’s more people playing Reach than Halo 5 lol

How many people are on Reach? Halo 5 has probably around 20,000-30,000 players… sad, especially since the game has only been out for a MONTH.

> 2533274837720524;13:
> > 2533274793616507;10:
> > > 2533274820548579;5:
> > > > 2533274907624408;3:
> > > > No, they didn’t mess up Halo 4 or 5. Why does everyone love to hate 343?
> > >
> > >
> > > That’s why there’s more people playing reach than halo 4 lol
> >
> >
> > There’s more people playing Reach than Halo 5 lol
>
>
> How many people are on Reach? Halo 5 has probably around 20,000-30,000 players… sad, especially since the game has only been out for a MONTH.

Reach has around 25k + players and will reach 30k+ when BC hits :slight_smile:

> 2533274837720524;13:
> > 2533274793616507;10:
> > > 2533274820548579;5:
> > > > 2533274907624408;3:
> > > > No, they didn’t mess up Halo 4 or 5. Why does everyone love to hate 343?
> > >
> > >
> > > That’s why there’s more people playing reach than halo 4 lol
> >
> >
> > There’s more people playing Reach than Halo 5 lol
>
>
> How many people are on Reach? Halo 5 has probably around 20,000-30,000 players… sad, especially since the game has only been out for a MONTH.

Reach has around 25k + players and will reach 30k+ when BC hits :slight_smile:

> 2533274795732002;15:
> > 2533274837720524;13:
> > > 2533274793616507;10:
> > > > 2533274820548579;5:
> > > > > 2533274907624408;3:
> > > > > No, they didn’t mess up Halo 4 or 5. Why does everyone love to hate 343?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > That’s why there’s more people playing reach than halo 4 lol
> > >
> > >
> > > There’s more people playing Reach than Halo 5 lol
> >
> >
> > How many people are on Reach? Halo 5 has probably around 20,000-30,000 players… sad, especially since the game has only been out for a MONTH.
>
>
> Reach has around 25k + players and will reach 30k+ when BC hits :slight_smile:

I thought it was around 15k for Reach, but maybe I’m wrong. Can’t wait for BC!
OT: 343i didn’t screw up Halo 4, they were just trying to meet the fans expectations. Obviously that didn’t go so well, but Halo 4 isn’t a bad game. It’s just not the same as previous Halos. A lot of people hated on Reach because of AAs being “overpowered” but they were right where they were supposed to be.

> 2533274885638438;16:
> > 2533274795732002;15:
> > > 2533274837720524;13:
> > > > 2533274793616507;10:
> > > > > 2533274820548579;5:
> > > > > > 2533274907624408;3:
> > > > > > No, they didn’t mess up Halo 4 or 5. Why does everyone love to hate 343?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > That’s why there’s more people playing reach than halo 4 lol
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > There’s more people playing Reach than Halo 5 lol
> > >
> > >
> > > How many people are on Reach? Halo 5 has probably around 20,000-30,000 players… sad, especially since the game has only been out for a MONTH.
> >
> >
> > Reach has around 25k + players and will reach 30k+ when BC hits :slight_smile:
>
>
> I thought it was around 15k for Reach, but maybe I’m wrong. Can’t wait for BC!
> OT: 343i didn’t screw up Halo 4, they were just trying to meet the fans expectations. Obviously that didn’t go so well, but Halo 4 isn’t a bad game. It’s just not the same as previous Halos. A lot of people hated on Reach because of AAs being “overpowered” but they were right where they were supposed to be.

If people liked halo 4 so much then why are there only 5k people playing it? Clearly 343i can’t make a good halo game

Well yes and no, they have added in new mechanics and ideas, but have also screwed many things up while implementing the new ideas and mechanics.

> 2533274820548579;5:
> > 2533274907624408;3:
> >

Maybe because Halo Reach came out two years earlier? Any thought???

> 2533274837720524;12:
> Hate to say it, but they do. They are great with the Lore(most of the time), but putting it into a game form… well that’s another story.

No they aren’t, not at all. They -Yoinked!- up Fall of Reach completely Lore wise in most aspects, Halo 5’s lore is kinda screwy, Halo escalation had dumb lore… they get the lore right sometimes and most of the time its easy because they’re making a lot of new stuff and they have a lot of free space.