Just to clear things out, I am not proposing to add vehicles to current Halo 5 maps. Saying if there is new map coming I would like to see vehicles being in new maps. I am asking would you like to see vehicles on the future maps and in Halo 6.
I was having discussion about “vehicles making game casual”. The argument was vehicles don’t game competitive, because players can kill other easily, infinite ammo, and extra protection on driver than infantry. If following this logic, isn’t power weapons make game less competitive also? Power weapons kill enemy often with one or two shots and most being explosive. People need to consider that vehicles can be destroyed. Just because it has infinite ammo, that doesn’t mean it last long forever.
Past Halo games included vehicles on 4v4 Arena games and it was good. I was kind of disappointed by lack of vehicles. At launch, only way to play with vehicle was to play Warzone that I did not like. Big Team Battle soon came later, but like most people, I don’t play this Big Team Battle and think it’s garbage never designed Halo 5. Halo 5’s maps will not work with vehicles, but in Halo 6, if 343 designs maps and sandbox with vehicle (not saying it should be the focus), it will work and fit into competitive gameplay.
I believe inclusion of vehicles will make game still competitive (even more competitive) and adds more dynamic to the game. Last time I made a poll about maps being interactive or non-interactive and most voted for interactive maps (such as switches/buttons has effect on the map when pressed and destructible environment), because it adds more dynamic and allows more tactic to the game. I think vehicles will do the same thing.
I think for modes such as CTF and Assault, light vehicles are fine in ranked. The problem is that 343 didn’t design any of the maps for anything other than 4v4 slayer. They need to look to Halo 1-3 for inspiration for Halo 6 because the Halo 5 maps suck.
There was always a counter to vehicles in Halo 1-Reach so they weren’t much of a problem. It is especially easy to counter light vehicles with a BR or pistol now that 343 made it easier to kill drivers and gunners. It has more to do with the maps than it does with the vehicles.
Also, yes, there were vehicles in Halo 2, 3, and Reach ranked play. The only ones that didn’t show up were the Scorpion, Wraith, Hornet/Falcon, and the Banshee I believe.
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> I think for modes such as CTF and Assault, light vehicles are fine in ranked. The problem is that 343 didn’t design any of the maps for anything other than 4v4 slayer. They need to look to Halo 1-3 for inspiration for Halo 6 because the Halo 5 maps suck.
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> There was always a counter to vehicles in Halo 1-Reach so they weren’t much of a problem. It is especially easy to counter light vehicles with a BR or pistol now that 343 made it easier to kill drivers and gunners. It has more to do with the maps than it does with the vehicles.
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Halo 2 Anniversary had one Banshee. I think light flying vehicles would also work.
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> True story, the game I got my very first ever 50 in Halo 3 was on sandtrap and I had 8 kills with the warthog turret.
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> But no, I dont think vehicles should be in ranked. Btb, sure. But not ranked.
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> > I don’t think they belong in Ranked anything, but I would love if 343i added a social objective playlist with vehicles.
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I don’t know. They have always been a more casual side of the games. I guess the largest thing is that Halo 5 map design, especially in the smaller 4v4 stuff, isn’t inclusive to vehicle design. The sandbox was designed in a way where I clearly think that vehicles were secondary to gun play. They just aren’t balanced all that well, IMO. Map scaling is a problem. Look at how all of Halo 5’s maps follow almost exactly the same formula. Having maps that could support vehicles in any ranked playlist would be jarring, as the maps would have to be drastically different to support them. That’s not saying that I wouldn’t like to see them. I could easily be wrong. I just don’t think that they would work well. If they could get them to work I would be 100% on board for them.
I’m not sure how vehicles, even small ones like the Mongoose, would fit into any of the Arena maps. Vehicular combat is generally designed for larger scale battles such as BTB or Warzone. Arena should be left for regular 4v4 shooting.
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> I don’t know. They have always been a more casual side of the games. I guess the largest thing is that Halo 5 map design, especially in the smaller 4v4 stuff, isn’t inclusive to vehicle design. The sandbox was designed in a way where I clearly think that vehicles were secondary to gun play. They just aren’t balanced all that well, IMO. Map scaling is a problem. Look at how all of Halo 5’s maps follow almost exactly the same formula. Having maps that could support vehicles in any ranked playlist would be jarring, as the maps would have to be drastically different to support them. That’s not saying that I wouldn’t like to see them. I could easily be wrong. I just don’t think that they would work well. If they could get them to work I would be 100% on board for them.
Halo 5 maps are not clearly design for vehicles, not even a consideration. If 343 were to add new maps to Halo 5, what if they design a map for including vehicles. 343 could still try it out in this game and potentially implementing Halo 6 and design a sandbox for all combats. We are not asking to add tanks, just simple light vehicles. As others said, Mongoose and Ghost will work like they did in past (not Halo 5 maps).
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> I’m not sure how vehicles, even small ones like the Mongoose, would fit into any of the Arena maps. Vehicular combat is generally designed for larger scale battles such as BTB or Warzone. Arena should be left for regular 4v4 shooting.
I guess you will know how it will be played if you have played Halo 2 Anniversary or Halo 3.
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> > I’m not sure how vehicles, even small ones like the Mongoose, would fit into any of the Arena maps. Vehicular combat is generally designed for larger scale battles such as BTB or Warzone. Arena should be left for regular 4v4 shooting.
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I do, didn’t think it was a good idea then. Besides, I was referring to Halo 5’s maps.