In Reach, we discover that a secret group of AIs have been guiding Humanity along without our knowledge. They influenced Mankind from 2310 through 2552, these AIs pushed Mankind in the right direction in some capacity. This brings up the question, do you like this idea? For me, I’m not particularly fond of it, it takes away Human achievement through our desire to expand by saying AIs guided into doing so. It takes away somewhat the idea of choice and determination. Do you like the idea of the Assembly?
I don’t like the idea and haven’t since they were implemented.
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> I don’t like the idea and haven’t since they were implemented.
Thank you. There’s just this feeling to it that seems to take away from our uniqueness in what we achieved. If I remember, they seem to indicate that the Covenant can’t glass a complete planet (WAT?!) I hope they didn’t give Halsey the idea of Spartan IIs, but her wanting to create the ultimate soldiers.
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> Thank you. There’s just this feeling to it that seems to take away from our uniqueness in what we achieved. If I remember, they seem to indicate that the Covenant can’t glass a complete planet (WAT?!) I hope they didn’t give Halsey the idea of Spartan IIs, but her wanting to create the ultimate soldiers.
They said that the Covenant can’t literally turn the whole of a planet’s surface to glass… which is much more believable.
A planet is huge, and it would take thousands of ships years to fully glass just one planet. The Covenant only have a couple thousand ships total, which are spread out, and destroyed countless planets.
They glass the poles and significant population centers, alongside sketching religious symbols, which causes severe climate and atmospheric deterioration. That’s more than enough to get the job done, and it’s more believable and strategic.
I love the idea of the assembly. It has a very iRobot feel to it, something I would love to see fleshed out in future media.
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> They said that the Covenant can’t literally turn the whole of a planet’s surface to glass… which is much more believable.
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> A planet is huge, and it would take thousands of ships years to fully glass just one planet. The Covenant only have a couple thousand ships total, which are spread out, and destroyed countless planets.
> They glass the poles and significant population centers, alongside sketching religious symbols, which causes severe climate and atmospheric deterioration. That’s more than enough to get the job done, and it’s more believable and strategic.
Yet this is all contradicted by Halsey’s journal which mentions glassing and the fact that the Covenant must not use the same level of firepower in ship to ship combat or the UNSC would never win a battle.
We also see in TFOR 40 Covenant ships boil the oceans off an entire planet within an hour. John watches it himself.
And then we see the few hundred remaining ships glass the majority of Reach in a few weeks.
The Assembly was working with faulty data.
I don’t hate them. They essentially rip off R. Daneel Olivaw’s Zeroth Law of Robotics to not harm humanity or allow humanity to be harmed, so that is a plus. Still, if they are stricken from the canon, it won’t be a total loss since the Librarian technically takes their place.
They said the Covenant couldn’t glass a planet for real. That is to say, turn 100% of its surface into glass. And it is factually true, they never did it. Even Reach still has fauna on its surface, like Moa, despite the catastrophe. The issue with “glassing” is not whether the Covenant can utterly devastate a world or not, it’s whether “glassing” is an appropriate terminology. The Assembly concluded that the wording was factually wrong, but they encouraged its use as it would make things more dramatic. Therefore the humans would try to fight harder, fearing that each of their world would turn into glass one after the other.
As for the discussion about the Assembly itself, I hope we’ll learn more about them. Maybe they are the natural evolution of artificial intelligence. The Librarian made humanity create AIs that would help their development and make it faster, a virtuous circle.
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Some planets probably react to glassing differently than others.
Boiling an ocean away doesn’t mean the entire planet is glass, which is what the Assembly was calculating.
The scenes in Halo: Reach show that the planet wasn’t all glassed. There are many spots still roughly intact.
It’s not that the Assembly used faulty data. Their error was in assuming that the Covenant would try to glass the whole planet, rather than doing just what is required to destroy its ecosystem and habitability.
It is also true that different ships have different glassing capabilities too.
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> In Reach, we discover that a secret group of AIs have been guiding Humanity along without our knowledge. They influenced Mankind from 2310 through 2552, these AIs pushed Mankind in the right direction in some capacity. This brings up the question, do you like this idea? For me, I’m not particularly fond of it, it takes away Human achievement through our desire to expand by saying AIs guided into doing so. It takes away somewhat the idea of choice and determination. Do you like the idea of the Assembly?
I hate it. Mankind in Halo is the most unsuccessful, stagnant and miserable species and they have been guided both by the Assembly and the geas implemented on them by that lunatic, the Librarian, for a 100,000 years.
To be honest, I didn’t know about the Assembly until now. (I did some research on them just now and learned about it). Honestly, I think it’s a terrible idea, especially in combination with the Librarian supposedly planting seeds in humanity and all that. Makes Humanity seem like they can’t accomplish anything without external factors helping them.
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> To be honest, I didn’t know about the Assembly until now. (I did some research on them just now and learned about it). Honestly, I think it’s a terrible idea, especially in combination with the Librarian supposedly planting seeds in humanity and all that. Makes Humanity seem like they can’t accomplish anything without external factors helping them.
Same these are my biggest gripes with the assembly.
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> > To be honest, I didn’t know about the Assembly until now. (I did some research on them just now and learned about it). Honestly, I think it’s a terrible idea, especially in combination with the Librarian supposedly planting seeds in humanity and all that. Makes Humanity seem like they can’t accomplish anything without external factors helping them.
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I used to make fun of the Covenant because they couldn’t come up with anything on their own (Everything they have is because of old forerunner tech they recovered, while the UNSC came up with all their own stuff). Now the Humans are no better than the Covenant in my eyes.
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> > In Reach, we discover that a secret group of AIs have been guiding Humanity along without our knowledge. They influenced Mankind from 2310 through 2552, these AIs pushed Mankind in the right direction in some capacity. This brings up the question, do you like this idea? For me, I’m not particularly fond of it, it takes away Human achievement through our desire to expand by saying AIs guided into doing so. It takes away somewhat the idea of choice and determination. Do you like the idea of the Assembly?
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> I hate it. Mankind in Halo is the most unsuccessful, stagnant and miserable species and they have been guided both by the Assembly and the geas implemented on them by that lunatic, the Librarian, for a 100,000 years.
Really? I mean, seriously. 100,000 years after the firing of the Halo Array, these humans became us (contemporary humans) from almost nothing. And within 500 years, we’ve managed to freaking colonized 800 planets and send actual humans in hundreds or even thousands of distant planetary systems. Like, really. Do you realize how we are too advanced, technically?
To me the Assembly is the natural abridgement of the Librarian’s culmination…
During the Human-Forerunner War, our prehistoric ancestors had the assistance of the San’Shyuum, to create a vast empire; is it so unnatural to believe without the Assembly or Librarian’s influence that Humanity would be worse off? Sometimes a nurturing hand is required to allow something to become better…
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> Yet this is all contradicted by Halsey’s journal which mentions glassing and the fact that the Covenant must not use the same level of firepower in ship to ship combat or the UNSC would never win a battle.
It’s stuff like this that makes me think that Traviss might have did her research after all…
My theory is that, to get humanity to the level it was before the activation of the Halo array, the Forerunners created the Assembly and the seeds.
I like the idea, but it feels completely out of touch with the rest of the EU. The Assembly only ever appeared in Halo: Reach, which is a game I’ve been doing my best to forget about entirely (not my cup of tea).
I can’t decide whether or not I despise them as canon more than I do the class-2 Spartan II’s from ilovebees. Unless the Assembly is related to the Librarian’s plan, I cannot possibly willingly tolerate their presence in the universe.
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> > Yet this is all contradicted by Halsey’s journal which mentions glassing and the fact that the Covenant must not use the same level of firepower in ship to ship combat or the UNSC would never win a battle.
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I almost had a heart attack. She has entire stars missing and covenant ships shooting missiles. She does not even know how a plasma torpedo works.