Let’s pretend for a sec that we live in alternate universe, where Bungie stayed with Halo franchise for another decade. Halo 4 was disappointment with bad maps and Armor Lock (that’s Reach with Master Chief as campaign’s main character) and after years of waiting, Bungie showed us their first, trully next gen Halo: Halo 5 with 4 campaign levels, lack of story and MMO aspect.
Yup, it still has multiplayer and everyone (outside “true” Halo fans who sees any changes after H3 as heresy) says how much it resembles “old” Halo with it’s 30fps and combat mechanics. I’m talking, of course, about that mode in Destiny, which we know as Crucible…
Let’s say Halo’s multiplayer has to evolve (for some it’s obvious, but not on this forum). Which way would you prefer?
Ive played both, and i can say without hesitating for a second that halo 5 is by far more fun. Destiny is just boring. Halo 5 is balanced… everyone starts with the same stuff. i like that.
Doesn’t matter if 343i or Bungie since it’s down to the people involved. I recall hearing that dev’s between Halo 1/2/3 frequently changed when Bungie was involved, I suspect the same for 343i so it’s weird how a team that had frequent changes seems to be more successful than w/e is happening at 343i.
i feel that destinies crucible has better gunplay, and flow, then halo 5 beta, if destiny gave everyone even starts, and same armour and health stats, and put weapons around teh map, it would be a far better halo style game then any of the 343 halos thus far.
and it sucks too, that 343 has been getting ALL of this information from the fans, and they choose to ignore it.
I could not stand the Destiny Crucible. Hated it. That Destiny mp was absolutely terrible. In fact I don’t even have Destiny any more. Traded it in a couple months ago.
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Halo 5 over the Crucible any day. The maps are way better, more balanced, power weapons are more important and it just plays much better, with more movement.
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That’s hard to believe considering they put out master chief collection for the fans. OH and giving away ODST for free and a new h2a map because that’s what people wanted as compensation for the rocky launch. But you are right sir 343 doesn’t listen. Remember when they changed bloom on reach cuz people -Yoinked!- about it? Or halo 4’s br? Oh how about the fact that halo 4 had no beta what do they do with 5?
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I didnt want ODST either. The problem is the halo fan base was split when Bungie released Reach.
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actually the put out master chief collection for the moneys, overhauling a game is significantly cheaper then developing a entirely new game.
odst is given as compensation for a horrible release, did you know us consumer protection laws would’ve made it 100% legal to sue microsoft for halo tmcc release? it also would’ve made it 100% legal to request a refund for 100% the purchase cost because the qaulity of the product did not match the advertisements.
and even if halo 4 had no beta, many players informed 343 that item drops were a BAD idea, the JIP was a bad idea. and yet 343 refused to lsiten.
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To be honest, they’re probably one of the most listening developers out there. People hated bloom and AL in Reach, 343i took care of that (it was them, not Bungie). People hated that Halo 4 is uncompetitive, they gave people ultra-competitive Throwdown. People wanted something more classic, they gave people Legendary Slayer and at the same time started working on Halo 2 Anniversary etc. They have problem with quality of products (mostly technically), but clearly not with desire of meeting fans expectations.
And yes, everyone knows they do it for money, because they’re gaming company (duh). It’s actually not anything shocking.
At the same time everytime I read/hear what Deej is saying, I just want to punch him in the face. Sure Bungie has this slick, “we’re listening” PR, but in the end it’s no contest in here.
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If it was 100% legal please go do it lol have fun with that and you can really just take out a core mechanic of a game only tweaks people said they hated item drops and jip right so what happened with Halo 5 ? Oh shoot no item drops no jip and arena style gameplay omg 343 doesn’t listen lmao what a joke
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OH and mcc for the money are you limited? They could of easily pUT out halo 2 anniversary alone for the same price but 343 put the whole Mc saga with access to Halo 5 beta and nightfall for the SAME PRICE your argument is invalid say what u want about 343 but they do love Halo and care about the community
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Yea and if only halo 2 was remastered.
comparatively it probably would’ve cost Microsoft MORE to ship a blu ray disc game with only halo 2 remastered on it. you talking about a game that was designed to run on a measly 4.7 gig dvd rom, compared with blu rays 60 gig capacity