Do we all want BR starts for BTB?

Let’s not pay any attention to the decade+ of casual players who had been enjoying precision start BTB since the beginning of the franchise. BR starts(or any precision start) is not a barrier to casual play. Its just ahistorical nonsense to suggest otherwise.

If spawning with the Infinite BR is enough to discourage from picking up certain other weapons the sandbox was never good to being with. If you want people to use certain weapons its on the devs to make them worth using, not by limiting weapons that are already decent.

What your really asking for is for more pretty lights and colors spice up the game rather than actually creating a richer gameplay experience. I really don’t understand this notion that their needs to be some balanced spread of weapon use regardless of what any of these “underused” weapons actually bring to the table.

A versatile, skill based(ideally) precision weapon is going to get more use than a shallow close range bullet hose. This doesn’t make the precision weapon “OP” its just the natural result of an arena style sandbox where each weapon is supposed to be more unique, some weapons are just more flexible than others

If the bog basic precision weapon of a Halo game is supposed to be “mid-high tier” the entire notion of separating weapons into “tiers” is not only worthless, but actively detrimental to the sandbox.

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i feel like AR Pistol starts are better so you’re always looking for something better as you play. it would encourage people to pick up guns that they may normally never grab if they had a BR. or maybe go hop into a vehicle. when you have BR starts people just don’t want to swap weapons or do anything other than have a stale range BR fight.

the btb maps have lots of cover so br’s starts wouldnt be as effective as you think. what do you do when someone weak runs behind cover? you tthrow a grenadde which means the brs most effective range is how far you can throw a grenade.

Yes, but with a caveat

I would (and do) want to see the BR transfer from hiscan to projectile

I’m not saying that it’s impossible. I’m just saying that the reason why this hasn’t happened yet is because of some issue the team encountered during QA testing.

Most likely has something to do with the size of the map. What we really need is a another flight.

You even say the same thing I’ve been saying of why Behemoth was removed because of the map being too big and open with BR starts.

Same thing happens in social behemoth too because the battle rifle spawns on the racks at times and since the map is too big and open because its meant to have vehicles on it which they do in social and not ranked.

But lets continue:

I have read your previous statements and you say the same thing that BR start is the reason for its removal when you had previously stated its the maps flaws that made it miserable with br start (which it still is in ar start)

But socials Behemoth plays differently than Ranked Behemoth (and its not because of the different loadouts) because as I keep repeating myself Socials has vehicles and Ranked doesn’t.

After you had stated what I’ve been constantly saying I don’t understand how you proceed to scrap that and constantly say its the BR start that got it removed. Then you quote the post of behemoth’s removal which says the same exact thing of the main reasons of the map being too open with terrible spawns with br start as the minor add on to the issue of that map.

It seems like you haven’t read a single thing of what you’ve said and just continue to spew nonsense at this point.

No because I corrected you on your lack of memory of the plasma repeater being not used by anyone in reach mp because its terrible and of people were using the plasma rifle.


Big maps require starting guns that give you at least a fighting chance at ranged scenarios.
If you die and respawn with ARs and Sidekicks, you are going to have a harder time trying to get a gun that will allow you to be an effective teammate against others who already have ranged sightlines.

Plasma repeater was actually pretty good if you knew how to use it effectively.

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The bloom on it is bad, which made no sense that a energy weapon had bloom honestly.

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Once you learn how to compensate for bloom, it’s a great weapon. But that’s not the point of the thread.

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If you like it thats more power to you I’m not telling you no, just saying that gun is very under used and a lot of people avoid it.

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Yeah, this thread is about the Bullet Repeater, not the Plasma Repeater!
(*obvious sarcastic tomfoolery is hopefully obvious)


devs make dumb decisions regardless. AR/SK starts is boring af. even br only is boring. 2 weapon starts need to be polar opposites so players can pick a playstyle from spawn. short range and long range. its more interesting catching someone off guard using a long range weapon while you get close with a short range weapon and vice versa too.

I dont think i do. But the AR needs to be less easy to use all the time imo

Yea it’s truely great I can grab the only BR and rush for sniper then sit back and farm kills while people run around with sidekicks and AR. It’s even better when we shutdown their warthog right away and ours is running wild. Easy 2-0 lead in ctf and then get to farm for 12+ minutes while the other team has little chance to hit back until the wasp comes, but we are usually spawn killing so much it doesn’t matter, so we get 2 wasps instead.

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That’s sounds like one hell of a team you got there. You should try and go pro.

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Nah far more fun to beat up on randoms in btb

If only we could vote like Halo Reach :crazy_face:

Should BR starts replace AR starts? No

Should there be a BR start variation thrown into the mix? Yeah absolutely.