The Halo series is filled with many Biblical references, from the games to the books and comics. What’s cool is that many have further connections to the references. Examples being the Ark being similar to the Noah’s Ark, which preserved every species from the Great Flood in the Book of Genesis. The Covenant being a callback to the Covenant between God and Israel. People have that there’s connections to The Bible. However, is that completely true? Also, in the Halo Universe there’s countless uses of other stuff from our other myths, ect such as the use of Greek, Norse, Asian, Middle Eastern, ect. They use all this stuff as they are really dope, but also they can actually help people learn more about our history using actual historical names. They don’t have any actual narrative and thematic connections. I think it’s cool that they have the references to The Bible, though I see them merely as references and not actual connections. This is just me, what do you think?
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> The Halo series is filled with many Biblical references, from the games to the books and comics. What’s cool is that many have further connections to the references. Examples being the Ark being similar to the Noah’s Ark, which preserved every species from the Great Flood in the Book of Genesis. The Covenant being a callback to the Covenant between God and Israel. People have that there’s connections to The Bible. However, is that completely true? Also, in the Halo Universe there’s countless uses of other stuff from our other myths, ect such as the use of Greek, Norse, Asian, Middle Eastern, ect. They use all this stuff as they are really dope, but also they can actually help people learn more about our history using actual historical names. They don’t have any actual narrative and thematic connections. I think it’s cool that they have the references to The Bible, though I see them merely as references and not actual connections. This is just me, what do you think?
I never saw them as anything more then just names In the universe
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> > The Halo series is filled with many Biblical references, from the games to the books and comics. What’s cool is that many have further connections to the references. Examples being the Ark being similar to the Noah’s Ark, which preserved every species from the Great Flood in the Book of Genesis. The Covenant being a callback to the Covenant between God and Israel. People have that there’s connections to The Bible. However, is that completely true? Also, in the Halo Universe there’s countless uses of other stuff from our other myths, ect such as the use of Greek, Norse, Asian, Middle Eastern, ect. They use all this stuff as they are really dope, but also they can actually help people learn more about our history using actual historical names. They don’t have any actual narrative and thematic connections. I think it’s cool that they have the references to The Bible, though I see them merely as references and not actual connections. This is just me, what do you think?
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> I never saw them as anything more then just names In the universe
Same, as to make players go “that sounds cool!”
An example of this being Abaddon. In The Bible, Abaddon means destroyer or destruction in Hebrew, and is also the name of an angel or demon in the Book of Revelation, in which he is the angel of the bottomless pit and the king of a plague of locusts. Abaddon in Halo is a Precursor construct that oversees the Domain. It decided that the Forerunners should be judged for their crimes against the Mantle. Aside from the name, there is no thematic connection. I think they just reference stuff from The Bible.
The Flood and the Ark really do align well. The Flood being God’s (Precursors) creation to punish humanity (Forerunners) for their sins. The Ark also has DNA samples of many species, similar to the bible.
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> The Halo series is filled with many Biblical references… though I see them merely as references and not actual connections. This is just me, what do you think?
I think it’s used as a way to ground things (in a similar manner to the use of ballistic weaponry by the UNSC), it also allows Halo to be ‘deep’ - it pretty much gives your lore a boost by having something people can read into and spend hours going down the rabbit hole trying to find more connections and see if they can predict events based on the references. Also it’s easy to pretty much copy a legend and update it for your setting.
Like with Stargate, it turns our religions, myths and legends into actual material events, as if to say (regressed) ancient Humans saw things happening and recounted them as we today read them in the Bible etc.
I have always thought that the constant Biblical and historical references were really cool.
Another example is the Spartan-IIs who obviously are very much like Spartans in real life who were raised from birth to basically be ancient super soldiers. I’m just sad the training facility on Reach wasn’t called ‘Agoge’.
Halo has always, to me any way made not do suble hints to religious zealous behaviours a d xenophobia among other things. I think the link with biblical and medievil references is intentional and shows halo is more than just a boom, set piece shooter
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> The Flood and the Ark really do align well. The Flood being God’s (Precursors) creation to punish humanity (Forerunners) for their sins. The Ark also has DNA samples of many species, similar to the bible.
I think they use Biblical names and terms for reference for the real-world, with no real thematic connection.
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> Halo has always, to me any way made not do suble hints to religious zealous behaviours a d xenophobia among other things. I think the link with biblical and medievil references is intentional and shows halo is more than just a boom, set piece shooter
I never saw it as being some Biblical stuff going on, but rather references to stuff from the real word. An example being the Banshee. In Celtic mythology, banshees are female spirits that wail for a dying person. No connection, but they use the term as it sounds dope.
I’m not sure what you mean when you ask if the connections “mean much”. There are references to religion and mythology all through the Halo universe and they’re pretty deliberately connected in both theme and narrative.
The easiest examples are obviously Spartan and Covenant. Spartans were a specific group from history, and all of their ancient characteristics are reflected in the Halo universe programme, right down to the fact that most of them died (S-II) facing insurmountable armies to defend the homeland. Covenant is not exclusively a religious term but has a clear specific ecclesiastical definition, meaning an agreement between gods and people - exactly what the Covenant is.
Mjolnir: a supreme, indestructible weapon
Ark: this word literally originates from Noah’s boat, and the representation of Moses’ convenant with God - it has no other meaning
Halo: circle of light around angels and saints
Tartarus: deep pit below Earth used as a prison of torment and suffering for the evil and those who threatened the gods
Prometheans: named for Prometheus, the god who gave fire to humanity
Those are the big ones, but then there are several armour variants and other pieces of equipment that are clearly named from religious and mythological tales, and share key characteristics with the thing they were named after.
I think it best not to explicitly explain things from a certain religion, especially in a video game. But I do see your point with the Ark and whatnot.
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> I think it best not to explicitly explain things from a certain religion, especially in a video game. But I do see your point with the Ark and whatnot.
Right. The Ark and seraphs are the only things that I can think of that identify uniquely with Abrahamic religions, but everything is based in ancient myth and legend, which I agree much is cleaner as they are no longer so prominently “sacred”.
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> I’m not sure what you mean when you ask if the connections “mean much”. There are references to religion and mythology all through the Halo universe and they’re pretty deliberately connected in both theme and narrative.
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> The easiest examples are obviously Spartan and Covenant. Spartans were a specific group from history, and all of their ancient characteristics are reflected in the Halo universe programme, right down to the fact that most of them died (S-II) facing insurmountable armies to defend the homeland. Covenant is not exclusively a religious term but has a clear specific ecclesiastical definition, meaning an agreement between gods and people - exactly what the Covenant is.
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> Mjolnir: a supreme, indestructible weapon
> Ark: this word literally originates from Noah’s boat, and the representation of Moses’ convenant with God - it has no other meaning
> Halo: circle of light around angels and saints
> Tartarus: deep pit below Earth used as a prison of torment and suffering for the evil and those who threatened the gods
> Prometheans: named for Prometheus, the god who gave fire to humanity
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> Those are the big ones, but then there are several armour variants and other pieces of equipment that are clearly named from religious and mythological tales, and share key characteristics with the thing they were named after.
Maybe, but there’s no thematic connection such as “Oh, this is just like that. Ah that’s really cool.” They probably just picked the name because it sounds cool. They pick other things from our old myths and legends. Tartarus for example has nothing to do with Tartarus from Greek mythology, which is eternal punishment and the prison of the Titans. People bring the Ark being a thematic connection to Noah’s Ark protecting mankind and animals from the Great Flood. However, the Ark’s primary function is destructive, with the reseeding being part 2. The Halos are holy for the Covenant, but are really just super powered weapons that kill everything. The Prometheans have absolutely nothing in common with the Prometheans, whether the Forerunners or their machines. The Forerunner Prometheans were the top Warrior-Servants, the mechanical ones being mechanical drones. Prometheus was a Titan who was one of the beings who created Humanity and helping us by giving us fire (a symbol for knowledge and advancement). Are there cool callbacks and references to stuff from our past, absolutely. However, I don’t see these as thematic connections, and really don’t see narrative connections.
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> > I’m not sure what you mean when you ask if the connections “mean much”. There are references to religion and mythology all through the Halo universe and they’re pretty deliberately connected in both theme and narrative.
> >
> > The easiest examples are obviously Spartan and Covenant. Spartans were a specific group from history, and all of their ancient characteristics are reflected in the Halo universe programme, right down to the fact that most of them died (S-II) facing insurmountable armies to defend the homeland. Covenant is not exclusively a religious term but has a clear specific ecclesiastical definition, meaning an agreement between gods and people - exactly what the Covenant is.
> >
> > Mjolnir: a supreme, indestructible weapon
> > Ark: this word literally originates from Noah’s boat, and the representation of Moses’ convenant with God - it has no other meaning
> > Halo: circle of light around angels and saints
> > Tartarus: deep pit below Earth used as a prison of torment and suffering for the evil and those who threatened the gods
> > Prometheans: named for Prometheus, the god who gave fire to humanity
> >
> > Those are the big ones, but then there are several armour variants and other pieces of equipment that are clearly named from religious and mythological tales, and share key characteristics with the thing they were named after.
>
> Maybe, but there’s no thematic connection such as “Oh, this is just like that. Ah that’s really cool.” They probably just picked the name because it sounds cool. They pick other things from our old myths and legends. Tartarus for example has nothing to do with Tartarus from Greek mythology, which is eternal punishment and the prison of the Titans. People bring the Ark being a thematic connection to Noah’s Ark protecting mankind and animals from the Great Flood. However, the Ark’s primary function is destructive, with the reseeding being part 2. The Halos are holy for the Covenant, but are really just super powered weapons that kill everything. The Prometheans have absolutely nothing in common with the Prometheans, whether the Forerunners or their machines. The Forerunner Prometheans were the top Warrior-Servants, the mechanical ones being mechanical drones. Prometheus was a Titan who was one of the beings who created Humanity and helping us by giving us fire (a symbol for knowledge and advancement). Are there cool callbacks and references to stuff from our past, absolutely. However, I don’t see these as thematic connections, and really don’t see narrative connections.
I’m confused mate.
The Ark was meant to reseed the galaxy in the event of the Halo rings firing. Whatever its primary function it was meant to do that. Noah’s Ark was to do the exact same thing when the floods purged the Earth.
Tartarus is of course not a dungeon - he’s a Brute. But the meaning as an element of punishment and torture for the enemies of the gods - well, as he sees humanity as the enemies of the gods, I don’t think that’s much of a stretch.
The connection between the Forerunners and humanity via the Mantle is so Promethean it really seems to go without saying.
Halos - rings of holy light for the Covenant, EXACTLY as they are for angels.
I don’t see how you miss/deny these obvious connections. I mean there’s pretty much 0% chance they chose these names just because they sound cool.
No one is saying the Ark in the Halo universe was a boat that rode the waters. No is saying there’s a Noah. But that doesn’t make the narrative and thematic connections any less direct or clear.
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> > > I’m not sure what you mean when you ask if the connections “mean much”. There are references to religion and mythology all through the Halo universe and they’re pretty deliberately connected in both theme and narrative.
> > >
> > > The easiest examples are obviously Spartan and Covenant. Spartans were a specific group from history, and all of their ancient characteristics are reflected in the Halo universe programme, right down to the fact that most of them died (S-II) facing insurmountable armies to defend the homeland. Covenant is not exclusively a religious term but has a clear specific ecclesiastical definition, meaning an agreement between gods and people - exactly what the Covenant is.
> > >
> > > Mjolnir: a supreme, indestructible weapon
> > > Ark: this word literally originates from Noah’s boat, and the representation of Moses’ convenant with God - it has no other meaning
> > > Halo: circle of light around angels and saints
> > > Tartarus: deep pit below Earth used as a prison of torment and suffering for the evil and those who threatened the gods
> > > Prometheans: named for Prometheus, the god who gave fire to humanity
> > >
> > > Those are the big ones, but then there are several armour variants and other pieces of equipment that are clearly named from religious and mythological tales, and share key characteristics with the thing they were named after.
> >
> > Maybe, but there’s no thematic connection such as “Oh, this is just like that. Ah that’s really cool.” They probably just picked the name because it sounds cool. They pick other things from our old myths and legends. Tartarus for example has nothing to do with Tartarus from Greek mythology, which is eternal punishment and the prison of the Titans. People bring the Ark being a thematic connection to Noah’s Ark protecting mankind and animals from the Great Flood. However, the Ark’s primary function is destructive, with the reseeding being part 2. The Halos are holy for the Covenant, but are really just super powered weapons that kill everything. The Prometheans have absolutely nothing in common with the Prometheans, whether the Forerunners or their machines. The Forerunner Prometheans were the top Warrior-Servants, the mechanical ones being mechanical drones. Prometheus was a Titan who was one of the beings who created Humanity and helping us by giving us fire (a symbol for knowledge and advancement). Are there cool callbacks and references to stuff from our past, absolutely. However, I don’t see these as thematic connections, and really don’t see narrative connections.
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> I’m confused mate.
>
> The Ark was meant to reseed the galaxy in the event of the Halo rings firing. Whatever its primary function it was meant to do that. Noah’s Ark was to do the exact same thing when the floods purged the Earth.
>
> Tartarus is of course not a dungeon - he’s a Brute. But the meaning as an element of punishment and torture for the enemies of the gods - well, as he sees humanity as the enemies of the gods, I don’t think that’s much of a stretch.
>
> The connection between the Forerunners and humanity via the Mantle is so Promethean it really seems to go without saying.
>
> Halos - rings of holy light for the Covenant, EXACTLY as they are for angels.
>
> I don’t see how you miss/deny these obvious connections. I mean there’s pretty much 0% chance they chose these names just because they sound cool.
>
> No one is saying the Ark in the Halo universe was a boat that rode the waters. No is saying there’s a Noah. But that doesn’t make the narrative and thematic connections any less direct or clear.
I’ve always seen it as they did choose them because they sound cool. Like how they chose names and terms such as Banshee, Arbiter, and AIs like Loki, Leonidas, and Abaddon. I’ve always just seen it cool references to our religions and mythologies, I may just be crazy 
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> > > > I’m not sure what you mean when you ask if the connections “mean much”. There are references to religion and mythology all through the Halo universe and they’re pretty deliberately connected in both theme and narrative.
> > > >
> > > > The easiest examples are obviously Spartan and Covenant. Spartans were a specific group from history, and all of their ancient characteristics are reflected in the Halo universe programme, right down to the fact that most of them died (S-II) facing insurmountable armies to defend the homeland. Covenant is not exclusively a religious term but has a clear specific ecclesiastical definition, meaning an agreement between gods and people - exactly what the Covenant is.
> > > >
> > > > Mjolnir: a supreme, indestructible weapon
> > > > Ark: this word literally originates from Noah’s boat, and the representation of Moses’ convenant with God - it has no other meaning
> > > > Halo: circle of light around angels and saints
> > > > Tartarus: deep pit below Earth used as a prison of torment and suffering for the evil and those who threatened the gods
> > > > Prometheans: named for Prometheus, the god who gave fire to humanity
> > > >
> > > > Those are the big ones, but then there are several armour variants and other pieces of equipment that are clearly named from religious and mythological tales, and share key characteristics with the thing they were named after.
> > >
> > > Maybe, but there’s no thematic connection such as “Oh, this is just like that. Ah that’s really cool.” They probably just picked the name because it sounds cool. They pick other things from our old myths and legends. Tartarus for example has nothing to do with Tartarus from Greek mythology, which is eternal punishment and the prison of the Titans. People bring the Ark being a thematic connection to Noah’s Ark protecting mankind and animals from the Great Flood. However, the Ark’s primary function is destructive, with the reseeding being part 2. The Halos are holy for the Covenant, but are really just super powered weapons that kill everything. The Prometheans have absolutely nothing in common with the Prometheans, whether the Forerunners or their machines. The Forerunner Prometheans were the top Warrior-Servants, the mechanical ones being mechanical drones. Prometheus was a Titan who was one of the beings who created Humanity and helping us by giving us fire (a symbol for knowledge and advancement). Are there cool callbacks and references to stuff from our past, absolutely. However, I don’t see these as thematic connections, and really don’t see narrative connections.
> >
> > I’m confused mate.
> >
> > The Ark was meant to reseed the galaxy in the event of the Halo rings firing. Whatever its primary function it was meant to do that. Noah’s Ark was to do the exact same thing when the floods purged the Earth.
> >
> > Tartarus is of course not a dungeon - he’s a Brute. But the meaning as an element of punishment and torture for the enemies of the gods - well, as he sees humanity as the enemies of the gods, I don’t think that’s much of a stretch.
> >
> > The connection between the Forerunners and humanity via the Mantle is so Promethean it really seems to go without saying.
> >
> > Halos - rings of holy light for the Covenant, EXACTLY as they are for angels.
> >
> > I don’t see how you miss/deny these obvious connections. I mean there’s pretty much 0% chance they chose these names just because they sound cool.
> >
> > No one is saying the Ark in the Halo universe was a boat that rode the waters. No is saying there’s a Noah. But that doesn’t make the narrative and thematic connections any less direct or clear.
>
> I’ve always seen it as they did choose them because they sound cool. Like how they chose names and terms such as Banshee, Arbiter, and AIs like Loki, Leonidas, and Abaddon. I’ve always just seen it cool references to our religions and mythologies, I may just be crazy
No doubt they sound cool! But certainly carefully chosen too.
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> > > > > I’m not sure what you mean when you ask if the connections “mean much”. There are references to religion and mythology all through the Halo universe and they’re pretty deliberately connected in both theme and narrative.
> > > > >
> > > > > The easiest examples are obviously Spartan and Covenant. Spartans were a specific group from history, and all of their ancient characteristics are reflected in the Halo universe programme, right down to the fact that most of them died (S-II) facing insurmountable armies to defend the homeland. Covenant is not exclusively a religious term but has a clear specific ecclesiastical definition, meaning an agreement between gods and people - exactly what the Covenant is.
> > > > >
> > > > > Mjolnir: a supreme, indestructible weapon
> > > > > Ark: this word literally originates from Noah’s boat, and the representation of Moses’ convenant with God - it has no other meaning
> > > > > Halo: circle of light around angels and saints
> > > > > Tartarus: deep pit below Earth used as a prison of torment and suffering for the evil and those who threatened the gods
> > > > > Prometheans: named for Prometheus, the god who gave fire to humanity
> > > > >
> > > > > Those are the big ones, but then there are several armour variants and other pieces of equipment that are clearly named from religious and mythological tales, and share key characteristics with the thing they were named after.
> > > >
> > > > Maybe, but there’s no thematic connection such as “Oh, this is just like that. Ah that’s really cool.” They probably just picked the name because it sounds cool. They pick other things from our old myths and legends. Tartarus for example has nothing to do with Tartarus from Greek mythology, which is eternal punishment and the prison of the Titans. People bring the Ark being a thematic connection to Noah’s Ark protecting mankind and animals from the Great Flood. However, the Ark’s primary function is destructive, with the reseeding being part 2. The Halos are holy for the Covenant, but are really just super powered weapons that kill everything. The Prometheans have absolutely nothing in common with the Prometheans, whether the Forerunners or their machines. The Forerunner Prometheans were the top Warrior-Servants, the mechanical ones being mechanical drones. Prometheus was a Titan who was one of the beings who created Humanity and helping us by giving us fire (a symbol for knowledge and advancement). Are there cool callbacks and references to stuff from our past, absolutely. However, I don’t see these as thematic connections, and really don’t see narrative connections.
> > >
> > > I’m confused mate.
> > >
> > > The Ark was meant to reseed the galaxy in the event of the Halo rings firing. Whatever its primary function it was meant to do that. Noah’s Ark was to do the exact same thing when the floods purged the Earth.
> > >
> > > Tartarus is of course not a dungeon - he’s a Brute. But the meaning as an element of punishment and torture for the enemies of the gods - well, as he sees humanity as the enemies of the gods, I don’t think that’s much of a stretch.
> > >
> > > The connection between the Forerunners and humanity via the Mantle is so Promethean it really seems to go without saying.
> > >
> > > Halos - rings of holy light for the Covenant, EXACTLY as they are for angels.
> > >
> > > I don’t see how you miss/deny these obvious connections. I mean there’s pretty much 0% chance they chose these names just because they sound cool.
> > >
> > > No one is saying the Ark in the Halo universe was a boat that rode the waters. No is saying there’s a Noah. But that doesn’t make the narrative and thematic connections any less direct or clear.
> >
> > I’ve always seen it as they did choose them because they sound cool. Like how they chose names and terms such as Banshee, Arbiter, and AIs like Loki, Leonidas, and Abaddon. I’ve always just seen it cool references to our religions and mythologies, I may just be crazy
>
> No doubt they sound cool! But certainly carefully chosen too.
It’s interesting and cool that you got that deeper meanings in the names and everything. Could you draw parallels to stuff from mythologies and The Bible, absolutely. However, I’ve always seen it that Bungie and now 343 use(d) these terms to not completely alienate (pun intended) players and readers with all these extraterrestrial terms that we wouldn’t have any familiarity with.
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> > > > > > I’m not sure what you mean when you ask if the connections “mean much”. There are references to religion and mythology all through the Halo universe and they’re pretty deliberately connected in both theme and narrative.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The easiest examples are obviously Spartan and Covenant. Spartans were a specific group from history, and all of their ancient characteristics are reflected in the Halo universe programme, right down to the fact that most of them died (S-II) facing insurmountable armies to defend the homeland. Covenant is not exclusively a religious term but has a clear specific ecclesiastical definition, meaning an agreement between gods and people - exactly what the Covenant is.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Mjolnir: a supreme, indestructible weapon
> > > > > > Ark: this word literally originates from Noah’s boat, and the representation of Moses’ convenant with God - it has no other meaning
> > > > > > Halo: circle of light around angels and saints
> > > > > > Tartarus: deep pit below Earth used as a prison of torment and suffering for the evil and those who threatened the gods
> > > > > > Prometheans: named for Prometheus, the god who gave fire to humanity
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Those are the big ones, but then there are several armour variants and other pieces of equipment that are clearly named from religious and mythological tales, and share key characteristics with the thing they were named after.
> > > > >
> > > > > Maybe, but there’s no thematic connection such as “Oh, this is just like that. Ah that’s really cool.” They probably just picked the name because it sounds cool. They pick other things from our old myths and legends. Tartarus for example has nothing to do with Tartarus from Greek mythology, which is eternal punishment and the prison of the Titans. People bring the Ark being a thematic connection to Noah’s Ark protecting mankind and animals from the Great Flood. However, the Ark’s primary function is destructive, with the reseeding being part 2. The Halos are holy for the Covenant, but are really just super powered weapons that kill everything. The Prometheans have absolutely nothing in common with the Prometheans, whether the Forerunners or their machines. The Forerunner Prometheans were the top Warrior-Servants, the mechanical ones being mechanical drones. Prometheus was a Titan who was one of the beings who created Humanity and helping us by giving us fire (a symbol for knowledge and advancement). Are there cool callbacks and references to stuff from our past, absolutely. However, I don’t see these as thematic connections, and really don’t see narrative connections.
> > > >
> > > > I’m confused mate.
> > > >
> > > > The Ark was meant to reseed the galaxy in the event of the Halo rings firing. Whatever its primary function it was meant to do that. Noah’s Ark was to do the exact same thing when the floods purged the Earth.
> > > >
> > > > Tartarus is of course not a dungeon - he’s a Brute. But the meaning as an element of punishment and torture for the enemies of the gods - well, as he sees humanity as the enemies of the gods, I don’t think that’s much of a stretch.
> > > >
> > > > The connection between the Forerunners and humanity via the Mantle is so Promethean it really seems to go without saying.
> > > >
> > > > Halos - rings of holy light for the Covenant, EXACTLY as they are for angels.
> > > >
> > > > I don’t see how you miss/deny these obvious connections. I mean there’s pretty much 0% chance they chose these names just because they sound cool.
> > > >
> > > > No one is saying the Ark in the Halo universe was a boat that rode the waters. No is saying there’s a Noah. But that doesn’t make the narrative and thematic connections any less direct or clear.
> > >
> > > I’ve always seen it as they did choose them because they sound cool. Like how they chose names and terms such as Banshee, Arbiter, and AIs like Loki, Leonidas, and Abaddon. I’ve always just seen it cool references to our religions and mythologies, I may just be crazy
> >
> > No doubt they sound cool! But certainly carefully chosen too.
>
> It’s interesting and cool that you got that deeper meanings in the names and everything. Could you draw parallels to stuff from mythologies and The Bible, absolutely. However, I’ve always seen it that Bungie and now 343 use(d) these terms to not completely alienate (pun intended) players and readers with all these extraterrestrial terms that we wouldn’t have any familiarity with.
Their naming convention definitely serves both purposes. Right from the beginning, calling the enemy the Covenant meant you didn’t have to deal with odd names, and meant you knew to expect some religious connotation.
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> > > > > > > I’m not sure what you mean when you ask if the connections “mean much”. There are references to religion and mythology all through the Halo universe and they’re pretty deliberately connected in both theme and narrative.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The easiest examples are obviously Spartan and Covenant. Spartans were a specific group from history, and all of their ancient characteristics are reflected in the Halo universe programme, right down to the fact that most of them died (S-II) facing insurmountable armies to defend the homeland. Covenant is not exclusively a religious term but has a clear specific ecclesiastical definition, meaning an agreement between gods and people - exactly what the Covenant is.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Mjolnir: a supreme, indestructible weapon
> > > > > > > Ark: this word literally originates from Noah’s boat, and the representation of Moses’ convenant with God - it has no other meaning
> > > > > > > Halo: circle of light around angels and saints
> > > > > > > Tartarus: deep pit below Earth used as a prison of torment and suffering for the evil and those who threatened the gods
> > > > > > > Prometheans: named for Prometheus, the god who gave fire to humanity
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> > > > > > > Those are the big ones, but then there are several armour variants and other pieces of equipment that are clearly named from religious and mythological tales, and share key characteristics with the thing they were named after.
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> > > > > > Maybe, but there’s no thematic connection such as “Oh, this is just like that. Ah that’s really cool.” They probably just picked the name because it sounds cool. They pick other things from our old myths and legends. Tartarus for example has nothing to do with Tartarus from Greek mythology, which is eternal punishment and the prison of the Titans. People bring the Ark being a thematic connection to Noah’s Ark protecting mankind and animals from the Great Flood. However, the Ark’s primary function is destructive, with the reseeding being part 2. The Halos are holy for the Covenant, but are really just super powered weapons that kill everything. The Prometheans have absolutely nothing in common with the Prometheans, whether the Forerunners or their machines. The Forerunner Prometheans were the top Warrior-Servants, the mechanical ones being mechanical drones. Prometheus was a Titan who was one of the beings who created Humanity and helping us by giving us fire (a symbol for knowledge and advancement). Are there cool callbacks and references to stuff from our past, absolutely. However, I don’t see these as thematic connections, and really don’t see narrative connections.
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> > > > > I’m confused mate.
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> > > > > The Ark was meant to reseed the galaxy in the event of the Halo rings firing. Whatever its primary function it was meant to do that. Noah’s Ark was to do the exact same thing when the floods purged the Earth.
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> > > > > Tartarus is of course not a dungeon - he’s a Brute. But the meaning as an element of punishment and torture for the enemies of the gods - well, as he sees humanity as the enemies of the gods, I don’t think that’s much of a stretch.
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> > > > > The connection between the Forerunners and humanity via the Mantle is so Promethean it really seems to go without saying.
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> > > > > Halos - rings of holy light for the Covenant, EXACTLY as they are for angels.
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> > > > > I don’t see how you miss/deny these obvious connections. I mean there’s pretty much 0% chance they chose these names just because they sound cool.
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> > > > > No one is saying the Ark in the Halo universe was a boat that rode the waters. No is saying there’s a Noah. But that doesn’t make the narrative and thematic connections any less direct or clear.
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> > > > I’ve always seen it as they did choose them because they sound cool. Like how they chose names and terms such as Banshee, Arbiter, and AIs like Loki, Leonidas, and Abaddon. I’ve always just seen it cool references to our religions and mythologies, I may just be crazy
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> > > No doubt they sound cool! But certainly carefully chosen too.
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> > It’s interesting and cool that you got that deeper meanings in the names and everything. Could you draw parallels to stuff from mythologies and The Bible, absolutely. However, I’ve always seen it that Bungie and now 343 use(d) these terms to not completely alienate (pun intended) players and readers with all these extraterrestrial terms that we wouldn’t have any familiarity with.
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> Their naming convention definitely serves both purposes. Right from the beginning, calling the enemy the Covenant meant you didn’t have to deal with odd names, and meant you knew to expect some religious connotation.
Speaking of extraterrestrial names and terms, would you be annoyed if they eventually reveal the Forerunners’ original species name?