Do something about the cheaters and modders!

Games Other Halo
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Cheaters first, more of them than modders.

There is one particular guy (Love to put in the GT, but I won’t) that is always accompanied by another account. Now all that account does it give him EVERY single ordnance, and as a result this guy has more kills with power weapons than loadout weapons (except for the formerly OP DMR, which was sort of a power weapon)
If they don’t get a gametype with ordnance, they quit out…

Now giving away an occassional ordnance is fine, if you don’t want it, etc, but when someone is getting double ordnance in effect, every single game, that is cheating, plain and simple. Its also stat tampering to some extent if you like…

Ban this person, I’ve reported both GT’s a few times now (over about 4 months or so), and these accounts still have not been banned, because I keep running into them every few days…

Modders now…
Okay Halo 4 lags, but some cases are clearly not due to lag…

1)With no previous lag, or any directly after, I am killed by a bullet that never exits the end of the sniper rifle. If it was lag, I’d expect to see the trail heading off in some direction maybe a second or so later, but this wasn’t the case. And it happened the entire game as well…

2)The player who can survive a plasma grenade…
We’ve all heard of plasmas not going off, no worries there.
But when a person sticks you with a sticky, then starts assassinating you, the grenade goes off, killing me, but not him, lag is not the problem, modding is.
Your grenade, you are basically touching it, and you don’t die (stand on a stick and you go up), well you’re modding…

3)Camo modding
Where you are completely invisible, with no blue dots appearing on anyone’s radar.
Now I got killed by this guy, and I thought "hang on, I just came that way, if he was crouching I would have seen him, if he was in camo, I would have seen blue dots on my radar.
Theatred it and he was in camo, but no blue dots were on my radar…
Or anyone else’s the entire game, every time this guy was in camo.
Doesn’t have an excuse because it wasn’t lagging, nor would lag play a part in it, you’d see blue dots at some point if they are in camo for long periods of time…

So basically do something about it, because I swear not a day goes by without me running into a major rule breaker in some game of Halo 4…

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Eh I don’t care much about them if they have to mod or whatever to win then they are bads. I just avoid and report players I suspect of doing cheap stuff like that.

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Having a teammate give you ordnance is not cheating. Neither is quitting from games you don’t want to play.

As for “mods” 1 and 2, you either completely made those up or have no idea what you’re talking about. Lag is not a mod. Lag accounts for a lot of weird things in online gaming.

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well it is team work but i still do not like cheating

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Having a teammate occassionally give you ordnance is not cheating, but if you have a person accompany you into every single game, just for the sole purpose of getting their ordnance, then that is cheating.
As I said, I have never seen either of those players by themselves, not in Halo 4 at least…

1st mod, maybe lag, still doesn’t explain the complete absence of a smoke trail from the sniper.

2nd mod though, the nade is stuck on my -Yoink-, he’s assasinating me, the nade goes off and doesn’t kill him (his nade remember). The only way he could get any closer to that nade is if he stuck himself…

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you are right about that

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> Having a teammate occassionally give you ordnance is not cheating, but if you have a person accompany you into every single game, just for the sole purpose of getting their ordnance, then that is cheating.
> As I said, I have never seen either of those players by themselves, not in Halo 4 at least…
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> 1st mod, maybe lag, still doesn’t explain the complete absence of a smoke trail from the sniper.
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> 2nd mod though, the nade is stuck on my -Yoink!-, he’s assasinating me, the nade goes off and doesn’t kill him (his nade remember). The only way he could get any closer to that nade is if he stuck himself…

No, it is not cheating. There is no manipulation of the game going on at all. The ability to pick up other people’s ordnance was intentionally put in the game and 2 players working together to maximize ordnance for one player is not cheating. Spawn killing is closer to cheating than this is and you’ll never see anyone banned for that. So you might as well give up this complaint.

  1. It’s called packet loss. Sometimes elements of gameplay don’t make the transfer from one person’s xbox to another. So when that guy fired his sniper he probably saw a smoke trail but on your xbox and your replay you didn’t because the information for the smoke trail was lost in transit. That is not modding.

  2. This is more likely than anything to be a mistake by 343 because I’ve had this happen before and I don’t mod. It’s probably a simple glitch.

  3. This is the only legitimate complaint you’ve presented. If someone is camo-modding like this and you can provide proof then by all means report him for cheating.

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Uhh…they sound like normal gamers to me.

It just seems as if you’re experiencing Lag…and a teammate giving Ordinance to another player isn’t cheating. I give mine away all the time if I’m currently using something better.

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I give away as many ordnances as I keep. If there’s a sniper on my team who’s ripping the enemy team apart, I don’t think twice about resupplying his ammo if I get a sniper weapon from ordnance. Am I cheating? Or am I putting aside my own self interests in order to help my team win?

I agree with you on the modder situation. I have long despised them. Even if what you’re describing does sound more like lag, dotless AC aside.

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> 3)Camo modding
> Where you are completely invisible, with no blue dots appearing on anyone’s radar.
> Now I got killed by this guy, and I thought "hang on, I just came that way, if he was crouching I would have seen him, if he was in camo, I would have seen blue dots on my radar.
> Theatred it and he was in camo, but no blue dots were on my radar…
> Or anyone else’s the entire game, every time this guy was in camo.
> Doesn’t have an excuse because it wasn’t lagging, nor would lag play a part in it, you’d see blue dots at some point if they are in camo for long periods of time…

What? I thought that camo no radar is just a glitch 343i hasn’t fixed yet? I don’t think that’s modding but I might just have my facts wrong, but I was almost certain that is just a glitch…

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The first two are pathetic points that I’m just going to ignore. The third is an exploitable bug. Not cheating per say, as it activates for anyone who crouches THEN activates camo. (The user will still get blue dots, but the others won’t.) Yes it’s cheap, yes it’s annoying, but it’s not a mod. Camo is cheating regardless in my book.

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> No, it is not cheating. There is no manipulation of the game going on at all. The ability to pick up other people’s ordnance was intentionally put in the game and 2 players working together to maximize ordnance for one player is not cheating. Spawn killing is closer to cheating than this is and you’ll never see anyone banned for that. So you might as well give up this complaint.
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> 1. It’s called packet loss. Sometimes elements of gameplay don’t make the transfer from one person’s xbox to another. So when that guy fired his sniper he probably saw a smoke trail but on your xbox and your replay you didn’t because the information for the smoke trail was lost in transit. That is not modding.
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> 2. This is more likely than anything to be a mistake by 343 because I’ve had this happen before and I don’t mod. It’s probably a simple glitch.
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> 3. This is the only legitimate complaint you’ve presented. If someone is camo-modding like this and you can provide proof then by all means report him for cheating.

You really cant except the fact that people do mod this game can you? Just because you have never heard of some of this, or you have had it happen to you, doesnt mean that the people are not modding. A mod doesnt have to be known by the whole community for it to be classified as a mod. Some modders are very good at hiding their mods, while other modders are coming up with new mods every day.

The simple fact is that you shouldnt deny someones complaint about modding just because you think you can explain the ocurrances. Not every event that happens in a game comes with an explaination. Some of these things just might be mods.

As for me, I believe him. I have encountered plenty of modders in this game and I am not going to deny these mods, even if I havent heard of them before.

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Umm, that’s teamwork. I run with three others. When we receive a drop, if it’s the sticky grenade launcher, that goes to me; SAW, to one particular teammate; precision -based (i.e., beam rifle or sniper), that goes to another. I was playing MW one time and this guy got 50+ out of 75 kills. I sent him a message and asked him how he cheated. He replied saying that his team all got shields and protected like a Spartan phalanx while he got the kills. You couldn’t really say it was exploiting a glitch, all you could say was that it was teamwork. Plus, in you example, the teammate has to be doing something to get points to get an ordnance drop, so it’s not like he wasn’t contributing something to the team. But cheating? Not even close.

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> > Having a teammate occassionally give you ordnance is not cheating, but if you have a person accompany you into every single game, just for the sole purpose of getting their ordnance, then that is cheating.
> > As I said, I have never seen either of those players by themselves, not in Halo 4 at least…
> >
> > 1st mod, maybe lag, still doesn’t explain the complete absence of a smoke trail from the sniper.
> >
> > 2nd mod though, the nade is stuck on my -Yoink!-, he’s assasinating me, the nade goes off and doesn’t kill him (his nade remember). The only way he could get any closer to that nade is if he stuck himself…
>
> No, it is not cheating. There is no manipulation of the game going on at all. The ability to pick up other people’s ordnance was intentionally put in the game and 2 players working together to maximize ordnance for one player is not cheating. Spawn killing is closer to cheating than this is and you’ll never see anyone banned for that. So you might as well give up this complaint.
>
> 1. It’s called packet loss. Sometimes elements of gameplay don’t make the transfer from one person’s xbox to another. So when that guy fired his sniper he probably saw a smoke trail but on your xbox and your replay you didn’t because the information for the smoke trail was lost in transit. That is not modding.
>
> 2. This is more likely than anything to be a mistake by 343 because I’ve had this happen before and I don’t mod. It’s probably a simple glitch.
>
> 3. This is the only legitimate complaint you’ve presented. If someone is camo-modding like this and you can provide proof then by all means report him for cheating.

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> The first two are pathetic points that I’m just going to ignore. The third is an exploitable bug. Not cheating per say, as it activates for anyone who crouches THEN activates camo. (The user will still get blue dots, but the others won’t.) Yes it’s cheap, yes it’s annoying, but it’s not a mod. Camo is cheating regardless in my book.

Actually the user does not have the blue dots either. It is a clear advantage on the users part. I have recorded both perspectives. It even shows how he received no damage when I shot him.

I don’t call out the camo glitch users and call them cheaters. I blame 343i especially since this has not been acknowledged or fixed.

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FFS Giving away Ordnance is now cheating? LOL

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be careful though some people arent really cheating, i play on ten sense and people think i have an aimbot all the time so just be 100% positive bro :smiley:

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Rarely happens to me tbh. Only playlist I lag is in big team cause of others peoples bad connections.

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Sounds like lag to me.