Do not bring back the BR

It’s already been confirmed so…

Um yes I have. I’ll repost what I wrote:

“If both the BR and DMR kill times are the same, and the recoil is taken off the BR so neither weapon is dominant at long or medium range, that would allow all players to use the gun of their choice without any advantage, and the player most skilled with their weapon would win the battle. EPIC!!!”

I’m not saying make the BR the “main” weapon in Halo 4.

Things I am saying:

I’m saying make the kill times the same for each weapon, which will of course SLOW the rate of fire of the BR to match it’s 4 shots with the DMR’s 5 shots. And yes it would make each shot of the BR more powerful than each shot of the DMR, but because of the rate of fire changes it would equal out.

I’m saying I don’t understand changing a weapon that helped make Halo the blockbuster series that it is today. Keep the BR 4 shot.

I’m saying the DMR and BR have a place in Halo 4.

And who wouldn’t like battling it out BR vs. DMR to see who’s better with each weapon?

@ UNKNOWN iXi: Ah yes you are correct. My mistake.

> Simply put single shot is a better option for the main weapon than burst is.
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> Single shot adds a level of consistency and skill that burst cannot. It’s more enjoyable for all levels of players. With single shot you either hit or you miss. It’s incredible obvious and leaves no room for misinterpretation; your shot hit or your shot missed. With a burst weapon it may look like you hit but only 2 out of the 3 bullets actually did or something to that effect. This happens constantly and leads to a feeling of inconsistency; kind of like what bloom does.
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> Do not add a burst fire main weapon to the game 343. I guess you could keep the BR and just make it single shot though.

No. By that logic, we may aswel just have the DMR as the only weapon and be done with it.

You & others prefer semi-auto, others prefer burst, more still prefer full-auto.

Just because ‘some’ people prefer using a certain weapon, doesn’t mean there shouldn’t be any others in the game, be them as primary or secondary weapons.

TL;DR - Everyone’s different. If you don’t like using the BR then get over it, don’t use it and laugh when you beat people. End.

~ Duck.

Invalid Point
BR = better at close range, as range increases it’s damage degrages
DMR = Better at medium to long range, as it comes into close quarters, it’s damage degrades

Besides halo fans have been asking for the BR for a long time and i have come to miss it as well since it was one of my favourite weapons within halo 2 and halo 3 and sure many fans have the same feeling as well.

Wow, the OP is actually serious.

I’ve always loved the functionality of the BR. It’s just iconic to the Halo series. Also, let me state some points found by using common sense:

The advantages of its burst shooting pattern:

  • burst decreases effectiveness at very long range, making BTB playable. (Otherwise we’d get something like ZB DMR big team slayer, which can’t be found in Reach matchmaking because it’s unplayable) The ‘range limit’ is hardly felt on the smaller, arena style maps. (that, hopefully, make up the majority of Halo 4)

  • Keeping your reticle over your opponent is rewarded over sweeping with your reticle, because that way, more bullets hit your target. skillful and better aim is therefore rewarded.

  • 4-shots seperate boys from men. Perfect aim is rewarded with a shorter than usual killtime, something that can’t be done with a single shot weapon. (except for the CE pistol, but those days are over) Unfortunately, this won’t be the case, as i’ve heard the BR will now be a 5-shot.

  • headshots are easier to be had, which means unshielded opponents are at a greater disadvantage. With sprint being confirmed for the game, this will be a welcome change. Less people escaping means having a faster paced game.

The disadvantages:

  • easier headshots also means that it is noob friendly. However, reduced auto-aim, faster strafing and a more tightly packed burst solve this problem easily.

  • Uncertainty as to when your opponent will drop dead. Valid disadvantage, although estimating when your opponent will drop dead will become easier as you become more experienced.

The BR is the only reason i’m kinda hyped up for Halo 4, even though almost everything else i’ve heard concerning multiplayer has been a disappointment. Don’t take that away from us.

Too late, bro.

Yes,don’t bring back the most successful weapon in the Halo franchise…

FACEPALM!

Too late

> Simply put single shot is a better option for the main weapon than burst is.
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> Single shot adds a level of consistency and skill that burst cannot. It’s more enjoyable for all levels of players. With single shot you either hit or you miss. It’s incredible obvious and leaves no room for misinterpretation; your shot hit or your shot missed. With a burst weapon it may look like you hit but only 2 out of the 3 bullets actually did or something to that effect. This happens constantly and leads to a feeling of inconsistency; kind of like what bloom does.
>
> Do not add a burst fire main weapon to the game 343. I guess you could keep the BR and just make it single shot though.

Good point but I love the BR, but now the DMR and BR are back so I cant wait, both are awesome weapons but nothing beats the Halo 3 AR…

I like my BR and with both Guns in the game i feel like this thread will fall on blind eyes.

yea, the dmr is better then the battle riffle. but the battle riffle is (opinion warning!) way more fun to use!

Wow this is the dumbest post ever invented it’s to late and BR is the second best weapon

i don’t understand people anymore really cuz first the most of the people says that the DMR SUCKS and they want the 3 burst weapon BR so 343 listen to it and they put it back and now the people don’t want it? sjeez be happy that the BR is in

It isn’t fair for a weapon (which many fans love) to be removed just because you don’t want it. I find it quite selfish. Just don’t use it.

Why did we bring this 4 month old thread back from the dead?

> > Just stop the BR needs to come back Halo needs a utility halo CE had the pistol 2 & 3 had The BR and reach had the DMR but it wasn’t implemented properly. So bring back the BR.
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> So just because the DMR wasn’t ‘implemented’ properly we ‘need’ to go back to the BR? That’s a really good excuse…
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> Honestly, I think that they should just make an entirely new weapon. That’s what I want to see. I don’t want to see the BR, or the DMR, or the ridiculous H:CE pistol, but I’d like to see a new weapon that’s intended for nearly every situation. Just because you prefer the BR over everything else doesn’t mean it should be brought back. That’s just the easy way out.

There is already a weapon that fulfills the role of every situation. It’s called the rocket launcher :smiley:

> Why did we bring this 4 month old thread back from the dead?

Right its not like 343i is going to change the BR at this point …

The Halo 4 BR sounds like it’ll be nothing like the Halo 2/3 BRs.

Halo 2 technically had two BRs. The default terrible spread BR and the accurate, post-patch BR. Halo 3 BR’s spread was terrible and significantly reduced the aiming skillgap due to the random spread that was not predictable.

Random mechanics don’t work well in a game with long kill times like Halo, they just add inconsistency and frustrate players especially new players who don’t or can’t be bothered learning how to mitigate them.

Random mechanics + long kill times are why 343i will never appeal to the COD audience, both don’t go well together.

COD players may pickup Halo 4 but it’ll be quickly adandoned for COD BO2.

Their not going to take out the BR, most veterans from halo 3 prefer it and want it back. 343 isn’t just going to deny them that after they already said its on its way back. If you really don’t like the BR then just use the DMR, that way everyone is happy.