So, I realize we’ve seen Elites kill unarmed people, but are Elites above things like killing innocent women and children. I understand that humans used to do worse a couple thousand years ago, and the Elites are ALIENS, but surely not all Elites think it’s okay to just kill innocent people, even if they are human. So, do some Elites show mercy, or are most of them just indiscriminate killers?
It’s definitely instinctually born into them that they must hate and kill all humans.
Source : Halo.
I think it varies from elite to elite. In what was I believe the second terminal in H2A, Thel wouldn’t kill those marines until they were armed and prepared for combat. Some Elites hold true to this type of honorably Sangheili culture, while others blindly obey the Covenant and will kill whatever they are told to. I think bloodlust also plays into the scenario. An elite that has been engaged in an aggressive battle will be in a bit of a bloodlust and be more likely to kill civilians than compared to an elite freshly deployed to a planet that hasn’t engaged in combat yet.
But they did murder millions of “civillians” (spelling error in title) via glassing. But on the ground I think they are less likely to kill civilians.
As far as thetimewarptrio said above me, I cannot agree with that statement. The elites didn’t even know about the humans until the war started. So there isn’t a long-running blood feud between the species. The relatively quick reversing of opinions by Thel and the SoS kind of proves to me that there isn’t an instinctual desire to kill humans. Once those elites realized the prophets were phonies, it was time to jump onto their former enemy’s team and take care of business.
Everything I’ve said here is mere speculation and stems from my personal head-canon lol.
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> I think it varies from elite to elite. In what was I believe the second terminal in H2A, Thel wouldn’t kill those marines until they were armed and prepared for combat. Some Elites hold true to this type of honorably Sangheili culture, while others blindly obey the Covenant and will kill whatever they are told to. I think bloodlust also plays into the scenario. An elite that has been engaged in an aggressive battle will be in a bit of a bloodlust and be more likely to kill civilians than compared to an elite freshly deployed to a planet that hasn’t engaged in combat yet.
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> But they did murder millions of “civillians” (spelling error in title) via glassing. But on the ground I think they are less likely to kill civilians.
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> As far as thetimewarptrio said above me, I cannot agree with that statement. The elites didn’t even know about the humans until the war started. So there isn’t a long-running blood feud between the species. The relatively quick reversing of opions by Thel and the SoS kind of proves to me that there isn’t an instinctual desire to kill humans. Once those elites realized the prophets were phonies, it was time to jump onto their former enemy’s team and take care of business.
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> Everything I’ve said here is mere speculation and stems from my personal head-canon lol.
Sounds about right.
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> So, I realize we’ve seen Elites kill unarmed people, but are Elites above things like killing innocent women and children. I understand that humans used to do worse a couple thousand years ago, and the Elites are ALIENS, but surely not all Elites think it’s okay to just kill innocent people, even if they are human. So, do some Elites show mercy, or are most of them just indiscriminate killers?
Thousands of years ago. Look at the middle east and Africa. I was in Iraq during the war we do these things still today. Humanity is nothing but monsters
Now to the question. Moselites didn’t bother with it unless for the 1st waves (as seen in Halo 4 cutscenes and Halo Wars) after that. They let the grunts, Jackles, brutes, and what ever species that will eat lice humans loose on the population ( as seen in Halo: Reach and multiple books like fall of reach and new blood)
Kill a man, and you will be branded a murderer.
Kill thousands and you will be branded a conqueror.
War is weird like that.
Elite Zealots are called zealots for a reason.
Everyone else is ok.
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It depends on how the Sangheili in question view their adversaries. Most Elites viewed humans as being less than insects. When humans exterminate insects we don’t differentiate between sexes or ages. This is my understanding of the situation.
I’m pretty sure we all look the same to them. Male, female, children; a human is a human. Same way we look at animals.
Most Elites do not go on slaughter sprees of non warriors or people who can’t/don’t put up a fight, if you grabbed up a weapon and came at them, they’d definitely kill you, but killing non-combatants and civilians really isn’t there thing. That sort of work was left to the species with much less scruples about that sort of thing, like the Brutes or Jackals, and the Grunts to some extent as well. Running into civilian populations centers and the like and gunning down anything and everything that moves isn’t the way for most Elites. You do get plenty of outliers like Ripa Moramee that would be considered dishonorable and disgraces by both humans and Elites, but most wouldn’t willingly do that kind of dirty work. Glassing would be about the only place where mass slaughter of civilians would be the appropriate place to lay blame on most Elites as that’s about the only time when most would have been involved in that kind of thing.
Perhaps they had no problem by killing civilians. I mean, according to their belief, we were an abomination to the galaxy. So I guess what was killing civilians without a second thought, was more likely to clean the galaxy one by one for the Elites.
The Covenant war wasn’t just a war, it was a genocide. They intended to kill all humans, regardless of age, gender, or occupation. At least some considered it dishonorable to fight anyone who was unarmed (such as the Arbiter) but for the most part yes, most killed humans pretty indiscriminately.
Yeah, it’s kind of their thing.
I think if an elite saw a civilian, He would shoot them. But they won’t actively go looking for them (for the human-covenant war). Grunts, jackals, and brutes WILL go looking for them. Hunters just don’t care.
Great question I do believe it’s more of an individual based thing like not every elite is a psycho human blood lusting lunatic. But not every one would let human civilians escape their unsheathed blades.
Mercy? No…
And humans never did anything worse than what covenant elites have done by glassing colonies.
Yes, they don’t care about killing innocent people because in their view humans are heretics. They basically believe every human deserves death.
In the halo 4 prologue we see an unarmed elite killing a civilian who was trying to escape, and when they glassed a planet they killed billions of humans in once. (EDIT: see erickyboo’s post)
We are talking about covenant elites (human-covenant war elites and jul’s faction)
In reality humanity has been genocidal for centuries from the Egyptians to the Romans to the crusades to the Europeans when colonizing the western hemisphere to the Nazis from 1933-1945 and still in the middle east today. Humans are vicious our species drove neanderthals to extinction, and continue to today.
In Halo the Sangheili are a honor based society so killing unarmed women and children would have been considered un-honorable for the fact they were considered non combatants. Now men armed or not different situation really, when Thel’ Vadmee attack the Marine garrison he did not kill the Marines till they were armed because he believed they deserved an honorable death in defense of their planet and as for being a warrior. Kig Yar, Unggoy, and Jiralhanae had not honor system except for their own species and the ones higher then they were. The attack on Harvest was Jiralhanae led and so killing all humans was what happened, not just because it was Jiralhanae but because the Prophet of Truth said that humans were heretics and needed to be destroyed for the great journey to prevail. Following the Prophets orders they killed everyone on the ground and by glassing. When the Sangheili became involved after Harvest they only killed civilians by glassing the cities but would make sure that all Forerunner items were gone before doing so or the information within them was gathered before they left.
All of this came from the books and terminals plus a little speculation on how I believe they really act.
Jul 'Mdama stated in the book, “The Thursday War” that humans find it morally wrong to kill woman and children, and it baffles him because they are still capable of holding a weapon, and killing, therefore makes them a threat.
Whether that applies to other members of the Storm Faction, I don’t know.