DMR wins against AR up close?

I know the title may sound a bit insane, but I hate to break it to you: it’s true. My evidence is hearing from a friend that’s played Regicide, explaining to me that the DMR is unbalanced because of how strong it is. It wins against AR’s at close range for crying out loud…
What would be the point in using AR’s now that the DMR completely dominates close range?

I’m not happy about hearing this kind of “balance” for the DMR.

You and I will experience this as soon as you grab that AR, you’ll be spraying that DMR player up close, then you’ll realize that you’ll lose pretty much all the time.
Now I don’t know what the reasons are for the DMR to be unbalanced when it can defeat the AR at close quaters.

Getting 28 kills with the DMR out of 29 kills as an overall is saying something here.

I’m expecting quite a lot of complaints to be announced about the DMR’s balance a day or 2 after release.

If the ammo was restored to 15 bullets per magazine and a 5 shot kill, then it’d be fine because of the rate of fire is quite fast.

Discuss what you think.

P.S. This is not a major rant topic. I came here to discuss about the balance of the DMR which really needs to be fixed before the depression of balance comes in again.

You heard it from a friend. Clearly solid evidence.

I think it would depend on the skill of the guy with the DMR and the guy with the AR.

> You heard it from a friend. Clearly solid evidence.

If I found a video that demonstrates the problem, then I would of done. But I can’t exactly show anything if I don’t have the game…

> I think it would depend on the skill of the guy with the DMR and the guy with the AR.

IMO, I don’t think it would require that much skill. The DMR’s balance worried me as soon as I heard that it was going to be a 4 shot and the BR was going to be a 5 shot.

Did your test have strafing and that in it? To make it as realistic to a normal multiplayer match as possible otherwise your friends story is a bit unbelievable

the DMR IS a five shot kill, NOT a four shot kill

> I think it would depend on the skill of the guy with the DMR and the guy with the AR.

^-THIS

> I know the title may sound a bit insane, but I hate to break it to you: it’s true. My evidence is hearing from a friend that’s played Regicide, explaining to me that the DMR is unbalanced because of how strong it is. It wins against AR’s at close range for crying out loud…
> What would be the point in using AR’s now that the DMR completely dominates close range?
>
> I’m not happy about hearing this kind of “balance” for the DMR.
>
> You and I will experience this as soon as you grab that AR, you’ll be spraying that DMR player up close, then you’ll realize that you’ll lose pretty much all the time.
> Now I don’t know what the reasons are for the DMR to be a 4 shot kill when the DMR is a 5 shot kill. Especially if it can defeat the AR.
>
> I’m expecting quite a lot of complaints to be announced about the DMR’s balance a day or 2 after release.
>
> If the ammo was restored to 15 bullets per magazine and a 5 shot kill, then it’d be fine because of the rate of fire is quite fast.
>
> Discuss what you think.
>
> P.S. This is not a major rant topic. I came here to discuss about the balance of the DMR which really needs to be fixed before the depression of balance comes in again.

From what i have seen the DMR seems completely balanced, Mind you though this is a change from the BR lovers complaining that the DMR (and a competent player) -Yoink- on them :3

DMR is 5 shot not 4 shot, if this is the info your Ggetting from your friend then he’s not very reliable.

> I know the title may sound a bit insane, but I hate to break it to you: it’s true. My evidence is hearing from a friend that’s played Regicide, explaining to me that the DMR is unbalanced because of how strong it is. It wins against AR’s at close range for crying out loud…
> What would be the point in using AR’s now that the DMR completely dominates close range?
>
> I’m not happy about hearing this kind of “balance” for the DMR.
>
> You and I will experience this as soon as you grab that AR, you’ll be spraying that DMR player up close, then you’ll realize that you’ll lose pretty much all the time.
> <mark>Now I don’t know what the reasons are for the DMR to be a 4 shot kill</mark> when the DMR is a 5 shot kill. Especially if it can defeat the AR.
>
> I’m expecting quite a lot of complaints to be announced about the DMR’s balance a day or 2 after release.
>
> If the ammo was restored to 15 bullets per magazine and a 5 shot kill, then it’d be fine because of the rate of fire is quite fast.
>
> Discuss what you think.
>
> P.S. This is not a major rant topic. I came here to discuss about the balance of the DMR which really needs to be fixed before the depression of balance comes in again.

It’s 5 shots to kill…

Also I played the game. AR kills DMR/BR/Carbine users in close range combat. It’s true that DMR is slightly better than BR but you need to perform some magic to kill AR user with DMR in close range.

Your friend doesn’t know what he is talking about. :stuck_out_tongue:

> DMR is 5 shot not 4 shot, if this is the info your Ggetting from your friend then he’s not very reliable.

He never said it was a 4 shot. I said it was a 4 shot because I saw quite a lot of evidence that it was a 4 shot…

That still isn’t the point though. It defeats the AR up close…

> > You heard it from a friend. Clearly solid evidence.
>
> If I found a video that demonstrates the problem, then I would of done. But I can’t exactly show anything if I don’t have the game…
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>
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> > I think it would depend on the skill of the guy with the DMR and the guy with the AR.
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> IMO, I don’t think it would require that much skill. The DMR’s balance worried me as soon as I heard that it was going to be a 4 shot and the BR was going to be a 5 shot.

Well if you have no real proof maybe you should wait until you DO have a copy of the game to make a judgements

In all honesty it’s down to who shot first and the accuracy of the first shot, if the guy with the DMR struck first and has the skill to follow through of course he will win. However if the guy with the AR began shooting whilst running towards some of its accuracy is lost. We need a video to show the situation but I believe this is what happened.

> > DMR is 5 shot not 4 shot, if this is the info your Ggetting from your friend then he’s not very reliable.
>
> He never said it was a 4 shot. I said it was a 4 shot because I saw quite a lot of evidence that it was a 4 shot…
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> That still isn’t the point though. <mark>It defeats the AR up close</mark>…

No it doesn’t… Stop posting silly assumptions…

> > > DMR is 5 shot not 4 shot, if this is the info your Ggetting from your friend then he’s not very reliable.
> >
> > He never said it was a 4 shot. I said it was a 4 shot because I saw quite a lot of evidence that it was a 4 shot…
> >
> > That still isn’t the point though. <mark>It defeats the AR up close</mark>…
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> No it doesn’t… Stop posting silly assumptions…

How is it silly assumptions when it’s true? Have you played the game? Do you know how the DMR plays against other players? Because if you haven’t played the game, then how can you say I’m making silly assumptions when I have some evidence to explain?

IF I had a video as evidence: I would of shown it. But because there is NONE, then how can I explain?

I made this to let others know about this before they play the game.

> > DMR is 5 shot not 4 shot, if this is the info your Ggetting from your friend then he’s not very reliable.
>
> He never said it was a 4 shot. I said it was a 4 shot because I saw quite a lot of evidence that it was a 4 shot…
>
> That still isn’t the point though. It defeats the AR up close…

Regicide is a free-for-all variant which is designed for one person to be shot from all angles. It’s honestly why I dislike FFA variants. People will engage you for no apparent reason rather then trying to cash in the higher point objective, which is to kill the “king”.

The AR beats the DMR and BR up close, outside of that, grenades and a few other things are key in determining whether or not an AR user will beat a DMR user.

Lastly, the DMR has a five shot kill to it. However, if a portion of someone’s shields are not fully recharged, it holds a bullet bleedthrough for a 4sk, but this requires a pretty significant portion of your shields to be disappeared. Almost 10% to be exact. This was present in multiple games I played during events, can’t speak for the final build…

> > DMR is 5 shot not 4 shot, if this is the info your Ggetting from your friend then he’s not very reliable.
>
> He never said it was a 4 shot. I said it was a 4 shot because I saw quite a lot of evidence that it was a 4 shot…
>
> That still isn’t the point though. It defeats the AR up close…

Uh. I don’t trust you.

> > DMR is 5 shot not 4 shot, if this is the info your Ggetting from your friend then he’s not very reliable.
>
> He never said it was a 4 shot. I said it was a 4 shot because I saw quite a lot of evidence that it was a 4 shot…
>
> That still isn’t the point though. It defeats the AR up close…

HAVE YOU SEEN ANY GAMEPLAY? AND IF THE ANSWER IS YES, THEN THE NEXT QUESTION IS: ARE YOU BLIND? IF YOU ANSWER NO, THE NEXT QUESTION IS: CAN YOU COUNT?

I HAVE BEATEN PEOPLE WITH THE DMR, WHILE BEING SHOT WITH THE AR IN REACH, THERE’S JUST SOME PEOPLE OUT THERE THAT CAN’T AIM

I’m hoping your friend just has terribad aim with the AR :stuck_out_tongue: DMR should never compete against an AR and BR up close (unless your health is weak obviously).

> IF I had a video as evidence: I would of shown it. But because there is NONE, then how can I explain?
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> I made this to let others know about this before they play the game.

The videos are eveywhere here’s the link to the live feed multiplayer broadcast a few days ago…