DMR VS BR, The battle for Halo 4

I have been thinking over the last few days about the inclusion of the BR in halo 4 alongside the DMR. So I decided to put up this comparison.

Note: This comparison does contain several assumptions, don’t take all of what I am saying as 100% fact.

1)Accuracy: the BR seems be a close to mid range weapon where as the DMR is a mid to long range weapon. The DMR will have bloom and the BR will have recoil. The recoil could be a big disadvantage for the BR. This really is detrimental as it limits the BR to mid range where as the DMR is effective at all ranges(due to reticle bloom at close). Also with the single shot, the DMR is essentially the easier weapon to control. DMR:1 BR:0

2)Damage: equal, both weapons do a 5sk. A detriment to the BR is that it does have the possibility to splinter if the operator moves too quickly, thus making it do very little damage(Having hitscan doesn’t change this). DMR:1.5 BR:0.5

3)Rate of Fire: reportedly the DMR has been stated to have been slowed down slightly. The BR’s ROF has been confirmed however to be slightly faster than the DMR. DMR:1.5 BR:1.5

4)Ammunition capacity: The DMR has a total of five clips(4reserve, 1inserted), where as the BR only has four clips(3reserve, 1inserted). Both do 5sk’s, therefore DMR=15kills possible, BR=9 kills possible. With extra rounds comes more room for error, So, since the DMR has a total of 75 rounds, 15 rounds a clip vs the BR’s 48 rounds, 12 rounds a clip, therefore giving the DMR player less need to worry about ammo on the battle field DMR:2.5 BR:1.5

5)Effectiveness/Versatility: the DMR is able to function effectively at all ranges (not as effective at close range compared to mid-long though) where as the BR is only functional at close to mid range(Because of its recoil). Using a rifle at close range however is a very dangerous idea, there are far too many weapons that trump both of them. Such as the AR, Magnum, Shotgun, Energy sword Etc. The DMR’s high damage combined with it’s accuracy and range make it a far more effective weapon than BR. DMR:3.5 BR:1.5

Winner: DMR

If I missed anything in the comparison above, please tell me and I will change or add it.

From my understanding DMR equals mid to long range shooting, as the BR equals short to mid range shooting. Each have their place is seems.

100% fact? Amazing, i didnt realize you got a chance to play the game.
/sarcasm

The DMR is superior over range do its better accuracy, but it does have a slower rof. Even slower than it was in reach. Say for every shot you make on the dmr is equievalent to two (or 1.75) on the br. At closer range when you have far more accuracy, the br can fire almost twice as fast making the dmr ineffective in comparison.

You should base your opinions on how you feel and not just what other people say, outside of technicalities like how the guns work.

This comparison wasn’t meant to showcase my opinion, I put it up to give the community an unbiased comparison based on what information is available to us.

Solution, get rid of the DMR. I rather have my old trusty BR than the DMR.

The way I see it, to a skilled player the DMR is going to be the better choice every time. The BR/DMR is going to have the same kill time, so the player that can constantly 5/6 shot his opponent will always pick the DMR. The three round burst mechanic is there so that if your aim isn’t perfect when you first pull the trigger you can correct it and still do some damage. While this helps to someone who may not be the best at aiming, to a skilled player it makes the BR not as good. So, close to medium range someone who can aim well can kill someone just as fast with the DMR as someone with the BR. At long range the DMR will do better because of its one shot doing as much damage as a full BR burst. Not to mention aiming a 3 round burst weapon across the map leads to more room for error. Simply missing one shot from one BR burst would lead to you losing to a DMR. Don’t think I’m some DMR fanboy, I actually hate the thing, but the way the current sandbox stands I don’t see anyone skilled picking the BR over the DMR.

I think it definitely makes sense. It’s more for aggressive players where as the DMR could be more for support guy who hang back and get shots off from afar.

It’s clear it has a place and it’s fairly different from the DMR, it’s all player preference now, complementing your playstyle.

In my opinion I just think of the DMR as a better version of the pistol; it fires slower, but has higher range and accuracy. So why not just have a more powerful pistol?

Canonically the BR makes more sense than the DMR.

BR has spread and the DMR bloom, this is so you can’t use the BR at long range effectively while still being effective at mid - close range, DMR having bloom means you have to slow your shots a in mid - close range, this very slight difference in time allows the BR to be dominant in these ranges but at long range the DMR has the edge from superior accuracy and in-between mid and long range …

I think it’ll be interesting to see how the AR-BR-DMR balance each other out in H4. If at all. Are BR and DMR 5sk? Is Magnum going to be a 5sk as well?

The BR has a faster rate of fire than H3’s
They better make the BR 4 shot to kill. A weapon with only 12 shots per magazine can’t work properly when it takes 5 to kill as was shown in the Reach beta.

It looks to me like they’re trying to make the BR short-mid range, and the DMR mid-long range if you know what I mean.

I don’t see the BR’s recoil as a disadvantage as long as its predictable and suppressible. Also given its higher rate of fire I’m sure in more skilled hands can beat the DMR close-mid every time. Plus snickerdoodle is right, canonically it makes sense for the BR to be in, the DMR is there for those whom grown accustomed to it in Reach.

Here’s my solution, Have a BR for the primary weapon slot and a DMR for the secondary weapon slot.

Switch accordingly.

> Canonically the BR makes more sense than the DMR.

Actually the DMR canonically makes as much sense as the BR to be in because the previous model(M392) never actually went out of service. It was only superceded in certain branches of the UNSC.

> I think it’ll be interesting to see how the AR-BR-DMR balance each other out in H4. If at all. Are BR and DMR 5sk? Is Magnum going to be a 5sk as well?

BR and DMR are confirmed by 343 as being both 5 shot kills. The Magnum will most likely be a 5 shot kill like in reach. I could be wrong about this though.

DMR is more accurate but slower, while BR is fast and agile, a perfect weapon to spam while jumping and/or running and strafing, the burst makes it a more suitable weapon. However, I do think the DMR should be slower then BR, but deal more damage, so that it’s more sniper like.

> > Canonically the BR makes more sense than the DMR.
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> Actually the DMR canonically makes as much sense as the BR to be in because the previous model(M392) never actually went out of service. It was only superceded in certain branches of the UNSC.

Right. Which is why the BR makes more sense.

The DMR was used by the UNSC Army, while the Navy and Marines adopted the BR line of rifles.

John-117 is Navy and the Forward Unto Dawn is a Navy ship, as is the UNSC Infinity. It would only make sense for the weapons to be primarily Naval in nature.

IMO no it doesn’t

from what i’ve heard the BR in H4 is a useless weapon and it seems to me like it was added just to sucker old fans back in.

> IMO no it doesn’t
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> from what i’ve heard the BR in H4 is a useless weapon and it seems to me like it was added just to sucker old fans back in.

From what I read from the MLG page, the weapons are still being tweaked at that time. Your source sucks.