I know, DMR nerf threads are getting repetitive, but it had become blatantly obvious that the DMR is OP. It had become extremely irritating to get killed from acoss the map every single game merely because of that fact that I’m not using it. (Please don’t say “just use the DMR”, I should not have to be forced to use a gun to win)
Here’s my suggestion;
make the Carbine a 7 shot, reduce aim assist slightly
as it is the carbine has the third slowest kill time (I believe)
Reduce aim assist drastically of the DMR
this would balance the fact that the DMR has a much faster kill time than the other weapons
Leave the BR the same
Light Rifle aim assist increased slightly
the unzoomed LR is virtually useless compared to the other guns, but combined with zoomed variant not much of a change is needed
This, I believe would give you the most balanced possible.
yes, but it has no downfall range, it’s wrecks havok at absolutely any range, this is why you don’t decrease the damage, only the aim assist making it harder at close range but still deadly from far
I think it’s interesting that the LightRifle is exactly what the DMR should be. Pretty bad close range, great mid-long range, but at the same time isn’t hitscan so you have to lead the shot more the farther away you are from the target. DMRs pinpoint, hitscan accuracy accompanied by a relatively fast fire rate is a combination that blows every other starting weapon out of the water
> The DMR is SUPPOSED to be able to kill you from across the map; it’s made for long-mid range combat.
Then why does it decimate every other load out weapon but the bolshot at point blank range? Fastest reload, hit scan, longest range, insane TTK, unbelievable bullet magnetism, high capacity, ridiculous amounts of flinch, and it downside is non-existent bloom.
> The DMR is SUPPOSED to be able to kill you from across the map; it’s made for long-mid range combat.
You do have a point, but it’s also WAY TOO GOOD at medium range. And at close range. It’s too good at everything, and outclasses all of the other weapons barring maybe the Suppressor at point blank range.
> > The DMR is SUPPOSED to be able to kill you from across the map; it’s made for long-mid range combat.
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> Then why does it decimate every other load out weapon but the bolshot at point blank range? Fastest reload, hit scan, longest range, insane TTK, unbelievable bullet magnetism, high capacity, ridiculous amounts of flinch, and it downside is non-existent bloom.
Yeah, you just summed up why I, and good chunk of the community hate this gun.
> > The DMR is SUPPOSED to be able to kill you from across the map; it’s made for long-mid range combat.
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> Then why does it decimate every other load out weapon but the bolshot at point blank range? Fastest reload, hit scan, longest range, insane TTK, unbelievable bullet magnetism, high capacity, ridiculous amounts of flinch, and it downside is non-existent bloom.
I don’t normally encounter the DMR at close range; mostly I end up running into ARs, BRs, and the occasional DMR. Normally I don’t have issues out-BRing a DMR, but that may or may not to attributed to luck, or fighting a really bad opponent =/ just my opinion =)
> > > The DMR is SUPPOSED to be able to kill you from across the map; it’s made for long-mid range combat.
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> > Then why does it decimate every other load out weapon but the bolshot at point blank range? Fastest reload, hit scan, longest range, insane TTK, unbelievable bullet magnetism, high capacity, ridiculous amounts of flinch, and it downside is non-existent bloom.
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> I don’t normally encounter the DMR at close range; mostly I end up running into ARs, BRs, and the occasional DMR. Normally I don’t have issues out-BRing a DMR, but that may or may not to attributed to luck, or fighting a really bad opponent =/ just my opinion =)
Can I start joining the games you’re in? Quite literally every game I get into, almost everyone but me has a DMR.
> > > > The DMR is SUPPOSED to be able to kill you from across the map; it’s made for long-mid range combat.
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> > > Then why does it decimate every other load out weapon but the bolshot at point blank range? Fastest reload, hit scan, longest range, insane TTK, unbelievable bullet magnetism, high capacity, ridiculous amounts of flinch, and it downside is non-existent bloom.
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> > I don’t normally encounter the DMR at close range; mostly I end up running into ARs, BRs, and the occasional DMR. Normally I don’t have issues out-BRing a DMR, but that may or may not to attributed to luck, or fighting a really bad opponent =/ just my opinion =)
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> Can I start joining the games you’re in? Quite literally every game I get into, almost everyone but me has a DMR.
The more the merrier xD I only use the DMR now when I’m going into BTB since those are all huge maps. Otherwise I grab my BR for smaller maps. I didn’t start appreciating the BR until SWAT; the spread can help to get some easy double kills if you get lucky
343 should just pull it out of the game and be done with it. In my experience with halo, I’ve learned a few things that players should not spawn with in basic slayer game types, I don’t know why 343 hasn’t figured it out.
1: This probably being most obvious of all, Invincibility. Thanks for cutting Armour lock, smart move.
2:Instant map control and ability to Override cover. Jet pack needs to be removed, not nerfed.
3:Shotguns, or other 1sk weapons. Do not spawn someone with a gun that can kill in one shot. Ever. coughBoltshotCough
4:More on topic, sniper rifles. I shouldn’t feel like I need to hide behind cover at all times, because there are 5 players with snipers. Seriously, the DMR is just as accurate. If I have a sniper, and I’m in 2x scope and bodyshot someone, I can easily pull my DMR and finish with a headshot at the same range. Cross mapping someone should be a privilege that only a power weapon entails, you should not spawn with it. Seriously, unless there’s a rock between you and a person with a DMR, they can shoot you, no matter how far away you are. Not only is it to accurate at to long of a distance, but its rate of fire to damage per round ratio gives it the fastest kill time, other than the bolt shot, of all starting weapons. My fix? Take it out. I guarantee nobody will be cross mapping with a BR. If it can’t e removed, it’s rate of fire needs to be slightly reduced, and it should be a 6 or 7 shot kill.
> The DMR is SUPPOSED to be able to kill you from across the map; it’s made for long-mid range combat.
That’s not something that should be covered. DMR does fine with that since it’s supposed to do that. The problem is the aim assist, and that makes it easy to pick off players. It’s an all around weapon, and it needs to be slightly harder to use.
I definitely agree that the Carbine needs to be 7 shot. There’s a lot of down side with 8 shot. More of the time, I only have enough shots to kill one player, and I don’t know why! I land my shots everytime, and coming up short usually happens. It’s like 18 round cartridge? DMR has enough rounds for almost 3 players…
> Decrease auto aim and bullet magnetism for ALL weapons.
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> Increase the DMRs clip size to 16 to allow it to get 3 kills before reloading but make it a pickup weapon
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> Decrease the Stopping power of all weapons except the Plasma weapons to give them more of a unique purpose.
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> Make the LR the only weapon that can damage vehicles bigger than the Ghost and Mongoose to also give it a unique purpose.
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> Buff the primary fire of the Boltshot and make it a pick up weapon.
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> Increase the lock on range and radius of the Plasma Pistol and make it a pickup weapon.
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> Increase the radius of Plasma Grenades and remove them from loadouts.
This fixes just about everything…other than jetpack but still, implement these changes and h4 would be near perfect.
> > > > The DMR is SUPPOSED to be able to kill you from across the map; it’s made for long-mid range combat.
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> > > Then why does it decimate every other load out weapon but the bolshot at point blank range? Fastest reload, hit scan, longest range, insane TTK, unbelievable bullet magnetism, high capacity, ridiculous amounts of flinch, and it downside is non-existent bloom.
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> > I don’t normally encounter the DMR at close range; mostly I end up running into ARs, BRs, and the occasional DMR. Normally I don’t have issues out-BRing a DMR, but that may or may not to attributed to luck, or fighting a really bad opponent =/ just my opinion =)
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> Can I start joining the games you’re in? Quite literally every game I get into, almost everyone but me has a DMR.
Glad I’m not the only one.
Scrolling through favorite weapons… DMR, DMR, DMR, BR ← me, DMR, DMR, DMR… etc.