DMR OVERPOWERED!!!! Proof,, Sort of.

First of all for all of you that say its not overpowered, Do you see any threads saying BR, Carbine, OR light rifle are OP? There are tons of threads about the DMR being OP and thats because it is. Compared to the other weapons. Its funny when people say well the BR is better up close… WRONG. GO INTO A CUSTOM GAME WITH TWO SPARTANS AND LINE THEM UP 5 FEET AWAY FROM EACHOTHER, ONE HOLDING BR, THE OTHER WITH DMR. PULL THE TRIGGERS AND SEE WHO DIES FIRST. I promise you its DMR. No matter how far away you are if you land every shot (which skilled players do) you will beat the BR any distance.

So i personally think the DMR needs to have a slower fire rate.
Nothing that will make it underpowered. But enough so that the BR and CArbine win up close.

Carbine needs a slight buff as well.

So it’s OP because people say it’s OP?

There are also people who say they are Napoleon. Doesn’t make it true.

I don’t know, I’ve been using a BR since the game came out… and I didn’t had any problem to beat someone who’s using a DMR…

just stop already

its not overpowerd!! you just cant aim!! i use the dmr on big maps and the br for everything else!! the AR is mean POWER at close combat!!

> I don’t know, I’ve been using a BR since the game came out… and I didn’t had any problem to beat someone who’s using a DMR…

exactly. plenty of people have, i run the BR on smaller maps and it stomps face against DMRs

Whether it gets a nerf or not im still going to play Halo 4. Its a great game but all i was saying is that it is a tad OP. Im not gonna complain to much about it i just put this thread to here what people had to say. But i do stick with my opinion of it being the best rifle regardless of what people say.

Because higher skill players are busy playing the game enjoying the Awesome DMR where as lower skill players are busy fighting higher skill DMR players and losing. if it was easy to use a DMR more people would just use it.

AR>BR>DMR in population usage.

The DMR can beat the BR at close range and absolutely wrecks it far range. The BR should be a 4 shot kill and the DMR shouldn’t be so accurate.

My first precision weapon was the light rifle, then battle rifle and finally the DMR
I’m pretty sure the DMR does the most damage over all, weather its over powered or not? I would probably say no, the problem is that the other weapons are underpowered.

thats what patches are for. calm down

> GO INTO A CUSTOM GAME WITH TWO SPARTANS AND LINE THEM UP 5 FEET AWAY FROM EACHOTHER, ONE HOLDING BR, THE OTHER WITH DMR. PULL THE TRIGGERS AND SEE WHO DIES FIRST.

HAHAHAHAHAHA LOOOOOOOL

Yeah because Standing still makes up for Strafing and jumping at close range?

There is a spawn weapon more powerful than the DMR, and yet you don’t mention that. It’s only the second most powerful semi-automatic weapon.

Source:Actual playstesting data

> > GO INTO A CUSTOM GAME WITH TWO SPARTANS AND LINE THEM UP 5 FEET AWAY FROM EACHOTHER, ONE HOLDING BR, THE OTHER WITH DMR. PULL THE TRIGGERS AND SEE WHO DIES FIRST.
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> HAHAHAHAHAHA LOOOOOOOL
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> Yeah because Standing still makes up for Strafing and jumping at close range?

It’s painfully obvious that he was demonstrating the fact that there is no range at which it becomes more beneficial to use the BR over the DMR and in fact the opposite is true, all things being equal the DMR will win every fight. The only thing that would cause a BR to beat a DMR is if the DMR misses at least once and the BR doesn’t. That by default makes the DMR a better choice. It has no spread, higher accuracy, higher damage, longer range, and a faster trigger pull. Knowing this then choosing the BR over the DMR is intentionally gimping your self.

If anything, the DMR needs to be more accurate, with a much tighter reticle. I tend to miss more close range with something very accurate.

> First of all for all of you that say its not overpowered, Do you see any threads saying BR, Carbine, OR light rifle are OP? There are tons of threads about the DMR being OP and thats because it is. Compared to the other weapons. Its funny when people say well the BR is better up close… <mark>WRONG. GO INTO A CUSTOM GAME WITH TWO SPARTANS AND LINE THEM UP 5 FEET AWAY FROM EACHOTHER, ONE HOLDING BR, THE OTHER WITH DMR. PULL THE TRIGGERS AND SEE WHO DIES FIRST.</mark> I promise you its DMR. No matter how far away you are if you land every shot (which skilled players do) you will beat the BR any distance.
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> So i personally think the DMR needs to have a slower fire rate.
> Nothing that will make it underpowered. But enough so that the BR and CArbine win up close.
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> Carbine needs a slight buff as well.

That statement holds no weight in matchmaking. Throw strafing into the mix and the BR’s extra aim assist is a huge advantage at close range. I’ve run into no problems using any weapon except the suppressor and the storm rifle. If anything the light rifle is op when scoped.

all the BR needs is a slight increase in range, then it will be the same level as the DMR

> There is a spawn weapon more powerful than the DMR, and yet you don’t mention that. It’s only the second most powerful semi-automatic weapon.
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> Source:Actual playstesting data

I’d say that a gun that is the most powerful scoped and least unscoped is balanced. IF you are that good with a scope and don’t have an issue scoping close players then the LR becomes a strong choice, however it does have a draw back in that you have to scope to win even battles.

This isn’t true for the DMR. The DMR has the same range/power/speed scoped or unscoped making it again a win for reliability.

It’s the same issue with the Sniper Rifle/Beam Rifle. Given the choice 9/10 players take the Sniper. Why? Because it’s more lethal. It can get more lethal kills off in a shorter period of time. You can chain two kills closer together with the beam rifle but you then gimp your self periodically making it only situationaly faster at a cost that is two high. If you design a niche weapon that niche weapon will be applied by a similar niche of the player base, the rest will use the default go to weapon which in this case is obviously the DMR outright.

> > > GO INTO A CUSTOM GAME WITH TWO SPARTANS AND LINE THEM UP 5 FEET AWAY FROM EACHOTHER, ONE HOLDING BR, THE OTHER WITH DMR. PULL THE TRIGGERS AND SEE WHO DIES FIRST.
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> > HAHAHAHAHAHA LOOOOOOOL
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> > Yeah because Standing still makes up for Strafing and jumping at close range?
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> It’s painfully obvious that he was demonstrating the fact that there is no range at which it becomes more beneficial to use the BR over the DMR and in fact the opposite is true, all things being equal the DMR will win every fight. The only thing that would cause a BR to beat a DMR is if the DMR misses at least once and the BR doesn’t. That by default makes the DMR a better choice. It has no spread, higher accuracy, higher damage, longer range, and a faster trigger pull. Knowing this then choosing the BR over the DMR is intentionally gimping your self.

Can you tell me why I have yet to be killed at close by the DMR when I’m using the BR? Also why is it that when I use the DMR I have so much trouble land shots and tracking enemies at close range?

There’s nothing ‘OP’ about it. If it’s so ‘OP’ use it and stop whining.

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