When you look at it like that they aren’t even really close.
Sure it has a better range than the BR, but what about the light rifle. it has the 3 round burst for bleed through headshots and, zoomed in, it’s 3 shots to break shields, not 4 like the DMR.
You can’t change the DMR without changing all the other weapons around it to re balance
I’ve been out DMR’d by BR’s and even the Assault Rifle in closer (but not CLOSE) engagements.
It’s just like it was in Reach, so it doesn’t need to be nerfed or less powerful.
What’s also funny is when I first played reach, I complained about how they got rid of the BR. Now that it’s back, I like the DMR way more than the BR. BR evolving into the DMR was one progression in Halo I believe is for the better.
Point is play smart and adapt… the DMR is not responsible for it’s negative rep. Maps, connection, and other things can mislead people into thinking “it’s the weapon that’s the problem”
> Looking solely at stats instead of understanding and feeling for yourself the overpoweredness…
obviously you might be bias to it because you use a close range weapon most of the time. this is exactly what I’m talking about… You use the Assault Rifle and you think the DMR is Overpowered. The assault rifle can kill in around 2 seconds if used right… but it’s not he DMR’s fault if you cant get close enough to use it.
The dmr shoots faster, has a more accurate recticle, and has alot more aim assist then the LR when scoped. Also, it’s alot easier to use then in reach =/
Edit: it also has more bullet magnetism
Edit 2: so yes it should get nerfed with out changing anything else
> The dmr shoots faster, has a more accurate recticle, and has alot more aim assist then the LR when scoped. Also, it’s alot easier to use then in reach =/
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> Edit: it also has more bullet magnetism
Get rid of aim assist, it messes me up on regular occations anyway. And i get it shoots slightly faster… but is it really enough to make a difference? not to a skilled player
> > The dmr shoots faster, has a more accurate recticle, and has alot more aim assist then the LR when scoped. Also, it’s alot easier to use then in reach =/
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> > Edit: it also has more bullet magnetism
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> Get rid of aim assist, it messes me up on regular occations anyway. And i get it shoots slightly faster… but is it really enough to make a difference? not to a skilled player
Too a skilled player, it makes all the difference. I try to solely use the Battle Rifle because I want my kills to mean something but if I’m fed up with DMR campers I will switch and curb stomp them.
It takes no effort, Bullet mag/Aim assist/scope & accuracy makes it ridiculous.
And if you don’t think so, try 1vs1 someone (I’d even do it) and use the BR while they use the DMR. If you are on even skill levels, you will lose hands down.
> > The dmr shoots faster, has a more accurate recticle, and has alot more aim assist then the LR when scoped. Also, it’s alot easier to use then in reach =/
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> > Edit: it also has more bullet magnetism
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> Get rid of aim assist, it messes me up on regular occations anyway. And i get it shoots slightly faster… but is it really enough to make a difference? not to a skilled player
it makes enough of a difference for most mlg players to use the DMR,
if 2 evenly skilled 1v1 and its a br vs a dmr, the dmr will win =/
> > > The dmr shoots faster, has a more accurate recticle, and has alot more aim assist then the LR when scoped. Also, it’s alot easier to use then in reach =/
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> > > Edit: it also has more bullet magnetism
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> > Get rid of aim assist, it messes me up on regular occations anyway. And i get it shoots slightly faster… but is it really enough to make a difference? not to a skilled player
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> Too a skilled player, it makes all the difference. I try to solely use the Battle Rifle because I want my kills to mean something but if I’m fed up with DMR campers I will switch and curb stomp them.
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> It takes no effort, Bullet mag/Aim assist/scope & accuracy makes it ridiculous.
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> And if you don’t think so, try 1vs1 someone (I’d even do it) and use the BR while they use the DMR. If you are on even skill levels, you will lose hands down.
I have. And I didn’t lose. It’s all in how you play… stick to cover and play smart. The DMR is no better than a pistol against you.
“obviously you might be bias to it because you use a close range weapon most of the time. this is exactly what I’m talking about… You use the Assault Rifle and you think the DMR is Overpowered. The assault rifle can kill in around 2 seconds if used right… but it’s not he DMR’s fault if you cant get close enough to use it”.
Lol.
When I was USING the DMR I knew it was OP. Don’t even try this worthless argument, it doesn’t do you any good.
The DMR competes with all the other primary loadout weapons because they’re all options. It outshadows every single one of them, some worse than others. It is most definitely OP and needs a nerf.
> I have. And I didn’t lose. It’s all in how you play… stick to cover and play smart. The DMR is no better than a pistol against you.
That is an hilarious statement. And I highly doubt it, no one even bothers playing custom games on 4 so I find it hard to believe you just so happen to have run the exact scenario I’m talking about.
It might technically be a mini sniper, but its still by far the best weapon in the game. The BR is the most iconic Halo weapon there is. Almost everyone loves the BR and was thrilled it was back. Now who actually uses it? The DMR was HATED, and the BR LOVED. Why are people using DMR instead of BR? Its not hard to figure out. Also light rifle doesnt have the aim assist and bullet magnetism that the DMR has and as far as the Carbine goes… lol.
> > I have. And I didn’t lose. It’s all in how you play… stick to cover and play smart. The DMR is no better than a pistol against you.
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> That is an hilarious statement. And I highly doubt it, <mark>no one even bothers playing custom games on 4</mark> so I find it hard to believe you just so happen to have run the exact scenario I’m talking about.
i just disagree with that point… i have some guy on my friends list that ALWAYS plays custom games
I don’t have a problem with the fact the DMR has good range - I have a problem with the fact it comes with homing bullets that are somehow 3X more powerful then the same rounds fired by the Assault Rifle. The same rounds that at close range can kill an AR user in under 1.48 seconds when it takes 16 rounds from an AR and 1.7sec to do the same.
It also has a 2.8kill clip, the AR has a 2 kill clip assuming you can fire exactly 16 rounds into your target followed by the remainder into a 2nd (not achievable in reality).
It also has a 3X zoom and longer range red reticle which the Light Rifle does not, and deals the same damage scoped or not unlike the LR which is WEAK at close range.
IMO the DMR needs to become a little more like the Carbine, faster RoF but a 6SK. The Carbine could do with being 1 shot less to kill then it currently is. And the bullet magnatism brought down a peg so its a little more like the ‘Marksman Rifle’ it is supposed to be, not the noob spam cannon.
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DMR (no skin)
Pistola (Static)
Frags
Active Camo
Mobility
Ammo.
Across all boards. A true spartan never changes his loadout… just becomes expert in what he uses".
I just have to come back with this, since you brought Kermin’s stats up back there.
This is your loadout? You USE the DMR and you’re arguing it’s not OP, all while you’re giving him crap for being biased against it!?
Now that’s just hilarious. Drop Camo in there too like a boss, ladies and gentlemen.
If you go up against an equally skilled player with the DMR without on yourself you will lose, there is no doubt about it.
The flexibility and power it has make it far superior to every other primary. There is literally next to no reason to use a BR, for example, and it outshadows the Carbine and Light Rifle by a hell of a lot.
I have a challenge for you: drop the Camo and the DMR, using a Carbine and play some Doubles, hoping for some good opponents.
Then see if you can do anywhere near as well as you can normally manage.
I’d ask you to come back and post a video or something but you don’t have to worry about that. The only thing you’ll need to come back with is an apology for making this abomination of a thread.
> > > I have. And I didn’t lose. It’s all in how you play… stick to cover and play smart. The DMR is no better than a pistol against you.
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> > That is an hilarious statement. And I highly doubt it, <mark>no one even bothers playing custom games on 4</mark> so I find it hard to believe you just so happen to have run the exact scenario I’m talking about.
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> i just disagree with that point… i have some guy on my friends list that ALWAYS plays custom games
Compared to 3 and even reach though, the custom community is basically dead.
> I don’t have a problem with the fact the DMR has good range - I have a problem with the fact it comes with homing bullets that are somehow 3X more powerful then the same rounds fired by the Assault Rifle. The same rounds that at close range can kill an AR user in under 1.48 seconds when it takes 16 rounds from an AR and 1.7sec to do the same.
Bullet magnetism, Aim assist… Real issues people should focus on…No weapon should have these. It’s not the weapon, it’s the underlying things that make a weapon seem better than others. When on target with a turret, it has less spread and is more accurate… It’s not the turret, it’s the fact that it, unrealistically mind you, magnetizes to it’s target.
As far as Homing bullets go… having used the DMR a lot, i miss when my target is not in the middle of my cross-hair, but i’ll take your word for it.
> > I have. And I didn’t lose. It’s all in how you play… stick to cover and play smart. The DMR is no better than a pistol against you.
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> That is an hilarious statement. And I highly doubt it, no one even bothers playing custom games on 4 so I find it hard to believe you just so happen to have run the exact scenario I’m talking about.
What’s actually hilarious sir, is the fact you seem to think you know what games I’ve played and who I have played against. You sir, know nothing.
Bullet magnetism/so on is different for different weapons, and the DMR has plenty of it. We know what this is, it seems we have to educate the creator of the thread.
“As far as Homing bullets go… having used the DMR a lot, i miss when my target is not in the middle of my cross-hair, but i’ll take your word for it”.
As far as that bullet magnetism goes – nevermind, you’re just straight-up incorrect. The difference between the DMR (though the BR is right up there with it in this case) and the other weapons is so significant it would be amazing were we discussing something other than sandbox balance.
Carbine V DMR? The difference in skill required is obscene.