Since this has been going from the start of Nov 6th, I’m hoping to see where the community lies with this.
Simple community poll
ROF = (Rate of Fire)
PWR = (Power)
If you select Other, please explain what you think the DMR needs for Halo 4.
Please keep this thread alive so 343 can see this and keep other DMR threads down to a low.
It would be best to nerf its accuracy a little bit so you won’t be sniped by a dmr user from the other side of the map.
> It would be best to nerf its accuracy a little bit so you won’t be sniped by a dmr user from the other side of the map.
This would go against what it is, Which is a Marksmen Rifle.
I can’t understand complaining about it’s accuracy, if you can aim great, if you can’t don’t use it. Why punish people who can keep a bead on your head?
The ROF though is an interesting aspect. Except for all the tests people have done showing that it doesn’t really kill that much faster, if at all.
And PWR? If you can’t get out from under 5 shots from distance, you really need to pick another game.
Range And power and bloom
Slow the ROF just a tad bit. Less than a second, maybe half a second, or something like that.
I don’t mind the gun at all. However, because of the ROF it currently has, it’s doing something it’s not supposed to be doing, and that is winning/doing amazing at all ranges.
343i said the DMR is great for long range, and good for mid range but will lose against both the BR and Carbine while at close range it gets dominated.
The ROF is against this completely. If the ROF is toned down a bit, it’ll still do amazing at long range like it’s supposed to, but will lose at mid range and definitely close range.
My friend and I did at test with the DMR and BR. At mid range, the BR always won by 1 shot. However, recoil, bullet spread, and strafing were not put into account. With ROF toned down, the BR would win most of the time in mid ranges, even with these three put into account, like it’s supposed to do. If you tone down the ROF just a bit, the DMR won’t get demolished, but neither will the BR.
At close range in the tests, the DMR and AR were random. Sometimes the DMR would win, sometimes the AR. This should not be the case. At all. With the ROF toned down just a bit, the AR will always win, like it’s supposed to do.
When trying to run away from the DMR because you know you’re not going to win, it’s hard to get away, even if the door is very close. The reason is the ROF. Yes, 5 shots should be enough time to get away, and yes the Sprint slow down when damaged should be taken into account. However, when the ROF for the DMR is so high that just getting around a door when it’s behind you is ridiculous.
So, once again, tone down the ROF for the DMR by just a bit, not by a second because that’d be too much, but some kind of tone down would be nice.
It seems anyone who is against nerfing the DMR is a user of the DMR. These people are blind to the fact that using this gun gives you the upper hand in almost every battle. The people who use the DMR and are against its nerfing need to get off their high horse thinking that if you want the DMR nerfed that it means you must be a noob that does not know how to use it. How can anyone think it takes skill to use? It has a clear advantage in medium to long and IMO even has the advantage in close range.
Boost all other precision loadout weapons.
Buff the BR and Carbine. The DMR is fine.
> Slow the ROF just a tad bit. Less than a second, maybe half a second, or something like that.
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> I don’t mind the gun at all. However, because of the ROF it currently has, it’s doing something it’s not supposed to be doing, and that is winning/doing amazing at all ranges.
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> 343i said the DMR is great for long range, and good for mid range but will lose against both the BR and Carbine while at close range it gets dominated.
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> The ROF is against this completely. If the ROF is toned down a bit, it’ll still do amazing at long range like it’s supposed to, but will lose at mid range and definitely close range.
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> My friend and I did at test with the DMR and BR. At mid range, the BR always won by 1 shot. However, recoil, bullet spread, and strafing were not put into account. With ROF toned down, the BR would win most of the time in mid ranges, even with these three put into account, like it’s supposed to do. If you tone down the ROF just a bit, the DMR won’t get demolished, but neither will the BR.
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> At close range in the tests, the DMR and AR were random. Sometimes the DMR would win, sometimes the AR. This should not be the case. At all. With the ROF toned down just a bit, the AR will always win, like it’s supposed to do.
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> When trying to run away from the DMR because you know you’re not going to win, it’s hard to get away, even if the door is very close. The reason is the ROF. Yes, 5 shots should be enough time to get away, and yes the Sprint slow down when damaged should be taken into account. However, when the ROF for the DMR is so high that just getting around a door when it’s behind you is ridiculous.
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> So, once again, tone down the ROF for the DMR by just a bit, not by a second because that’d be too much, but some kind of tone down would be nice.
Agree 100%
Oh for the love of Shoggoth, if you guys get the DMR nerfed in Spartan Ops because you don’t know how to use cover and suppression tactics in War Games I’ll be so done with Halo.
The Battle Rifle is wonderful. I love using it, But I also love the DMR, so please just learn how to shoot them both in context to the battle, enemy team, and the map. I simply use cover coupled with team tactics if the other team is pot shotting, so for H.P Lovecraft’s sake, and I say this as a total Noob in Wargames even I know to spot the DMR sniper, place down cover fire for the guys using ARS and BRs so they can get in quickly to de-roost them and rout their perches.
Just DMR the other DMRS.
> Oh for the love of Shoggoth, if you guys get the DMR nerfed in Spartan Ops because you don’t know how to use cover and suppression tactics in War Games I’ll be so done with Halo.
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> The Battle Rifle is wonderful. I love using it, But I also love the DMR, so please just learn how to shoot them both in context to the battle, enemy team, and the map. I simply use cover coupled with team tactics if the other team is pot shotting, so for H.P Lovecraft’s sake, and I say this as a total Noob in Wargames even I know to spot the DMR sniper, place down cover fire for the guys using ARS and BRs so they can get in quickly to de-roost them and rout their perches.
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> Just DMR the other DMRS.
I love the other weapons to Dez but some people don’t want to use the DMR all that time.
> Boost all other precision loadout weapons.
No -Yoinking!- -Yoink-. Buff the ever-loving -Yoink- out of everything else but the DMR.
No one’s making them use the DMR. I like to use the fire power perk and carry both rifles. They work great together if you use them correctly for the situation. I’m good with a DMR, but I place cover fire for guys who like to use other guns so they can use other guns. It’s not because of the weapon that they are dying or not getting kills. Because I’ve been killed by all sorts of weapons very quickly while carrying the DMR. It’s not some sort of power shield or anything.
There’s only one gun that would make me place the DMR and BR on the sidelines and that’s the Carbine if they buffed it. She’s a -Yoink!- lady from a distant land that needs some attention.
lolDMRnerfkids. The DMR is fine.
> Oh for the love of Shoggoth, if you guys get the DMR nerfed in Spartan Ops because you don’t know how to use cover and suppression tactics in War Games I’ll be so done with Halo.
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> The Battle Rifle is wonderful. I love using it, But I also love the DMR, so please just learn how to shoot them both in context to the battle, enemy team, and the map. I simply use cover coupled with team tactics if the other team is pot shotting, so for H.P Lovecraft’s sake, and I say this as a total Noob in Wargames even I know to spot the DMR sniper, place down cover fire for the guys using ARS and BRs so they can get in quickly to de-roost them and rout their perches.
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> Just DMR the other DMRS.
Correct. If 343 nerfs this for all the spray and pray crowd then we will really know who pays the bills at 343.
Why do i feel that the majority of people complaining about the DMR, are BR users?
> Just DMR the other DMRS.
Change that to LR.
LR makes quick work of people that think they can pick you off with a DMR.
I’m so very very tired…of DMR nerf threads
> Why do i feel that the majority of people complaining about the DMR, are BR users?
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> > Just DMR the other DMRS.
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> Change that to LR.
> LR makes quick work of people that think they can pick you off with a DMR.
The automatics do an even better job at any DMR that thinks they can get up in your face.
> lolDMRnerfkids. The DMR is fine.
AR rush kids.