The problem is that the dmr is overpowered and while it might of been in reach and the br op in halo 3 and halo 2 the point is in those games they were the only precision weapons and the whole point of having other guns was to have balance and preference in the gun choices not to have one overpowered gun. also in games with the dmr in reach and the br either you would have to pick it up or everyone would spawn with it. So while the br or dmr was it shouldn’t be that the dmr is the best im not a br fanboy but there is a problem when the point of balance and preference are gone with on overpowered weapon i mean nothing stands a chance against the dmr. All the other load out weapons need a buff to make each gun balanced because im sick of trying to use the carbine and br and just getting mowed down. The worst is when the whole other team is using the dmr you cant spawn and all that happens is you get multi-teamed by two to five dmrs from the other side of the map. Halo 4 is at its core a good game and the dmr is the problem but getting rid of it or nerfing it badly isn’t the answer 343 needs to make the guns balanced and until they do so (in my opinion) halo 4 will be like a call of duty a game everyone buys but it is not a good game 343 came so close and i really hope they fix it if not in halo 4 then in halo 5 because i really don’t want this franchise to become the next call of duty.
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> 343 Should have left the DMR in reach.
agreed
and i’m 100% sure anyone who checks their service record will find most of their deaths are to dmr. unless they only play flood
over powered big time.
> The br should never be better than the dmr. NEVER.
What are you talking about? lore wise the br is much more scientifically advanced and there is no gameplay reason why the dmr should be better. So please explain what the Yoink you meant
> > > I too refuse to use the DMR, it’s way too consistent across ALL -Yoink!- ranges.
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> > That’s a good reason. It’s good, so you won’t use it.
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> It could be something called integrity? I could go and use the DMR and make life easier but it’s not akin to my or someone elses style. The game is a stage and we get to choose how we perform, currently the DMR is naturally outperforming the BR and that’s not the Halo that many fans have come to know. Halo is a game about niches, every weapon gets it’s chance to shine in the ideal circumstance. The BR was in the spotlight for H2/H3 and the DMR has since stolen it. Now I tried to remain unbiased here with this metaphor but maybe it leaked through the hard fact. The BR needs a buff.
I mostly agree with you but unfortunately other than Halo 1 and 4, niche based combat wasn’t existent > Get the BR/DMR or even Carbine/NR and you were pretty much set. I’m happy it’s mostly back for the first time in 10 years.
> I almost always get killed by the DMR now.
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> The most annoying aspect about it, in my opinion, would be how much damage it does to vehicles. Still tears up Banshees, and 2-3 DMR users are quite capable of destroying a Mantis at range.
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> Should definitely lower how much damage it does to some heavy vehicles. Keep same damage against light vehicles, but the Banshee/Mantis/Wraith need a damage reduction buff against small arms.
I killed a mantis with a beam rifle
Wait for the competitive playlist. v1 settings just came out, BR starts with 2 frags, explosives, resupply, and explosives. Everything else is on the map and you get to pick an AA as a personal ordinance drop when you reach ur point caps in game:) Everything else is on the map, Carbine, DMRs, Nades, Boltshot, PP, just find what you want after you spawn.
LoL people I kick -Yoink- with both weapons BR/DMR so just stop whining
I prefer using the BR in smal/medium maps and laggy games and the DMR in large maps its as simple as that
in slayer gametypes I have
2292 DMR Kills
2041 BR Kills
so just ahead and suck it
- got balls of steel
To anybody who says the DMR should always be superior to the BR they are wrrong . Historically speaking the BR replaced the DMR because the BR was better than the DMR. You argument is invalid. I like the DMR but I too think it has a little bit too much supremacy in open maps like Ragnarok when the honor should go to sniper rifles, beam rifles, and binary rifles. I find my team’s snipers getting gunned down by DMR’s before they can do much because the other team is using 2-3 and killing them in 1-2 seconds.
The DMR’s longer-range single-shot goodness among the utility weapons rightfully belongs to the carbine.
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> > DMR is a great weapon but it is not over powered in any way… I can easily kill players using the DMR on close to medium ranges so stop your crying…
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> I support you on that. Its just how both weapons are used. DMR on haven is hard to use than the BR for example. Both are weapons are powerful and provide just about the same fire power and range.
DMR on Haven harder to use then the BR… Then you just -Yoinking!- suck! The DMR is the second most OP weapon of the loadout weapons the first being the Boltshot. I hate how unbalanced this game is. These -Yoinking!- noobs ruin Halo. First Halo was about real skill. Nobody who never played it before and played it for the first time was good, but with 4? Every person with down syndrome can play this game and be good in two weeks. No scoping also doesn’t take any skill anymore. -Yoinking!- COD Rip off, 343 -Yoinked!- up bad, they can shove halo 5 up their stinking -Yoink-
Honestly just turn down the auto aim on the DMR, its ridiculous, I understand some auto aim but you can strafe with it at close range and not even have to aim, the BR has little to no auto aim unless you’re on top of someone and even then they’ll just DMR you to death or boltshot your face, and dont even get me started on the Boltshot…You shouldnt be allowed to spawn with a handheld shotgun…All I’m saying, but back to the DMR, I honestly believe if they lowered auto aim or turned it off almost completely it would make the weapon balanced, I understand that there should be long range battles, but how about we make it a proper battle instead of a slaughter.
> Honestly just turn down the auto aim on the DMR, its ridiculous, I understand some auto aim but you can strafe with it at close range and not even have to aim, the BR has little to no auto aim unless you’re on top of someone and even then they’ll just DMR you to death or boltshot your face, and dont even get me started on the Boltshot…You shouldnt be allowed to spawn with a handheld shotgun…All I’m saying, but back to the DMR, I honestly believe if they lowered auto aim or turned it off almost completely it would make the weapon balanced, I understand that there should be long range battles, but how about we make it a proper battle instead of a slaughter.
Maybe you should create a new thread instead of bumping a 6 month old thread.
Besides, the DMR issues have been addressed many times in the past.
If you want to suggest tuning for the Halo 4 sandbox, refer to the Weapons Feedback Thread