DMR is ruining Halo

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> I could go and use the DMR and make life easier but it’s not akin to my or someone elses style.

This is a good point.

> The game is a stage and we get to choose how we perform, currently the DMR is naturally outperforming the BR and that’s not the Halo that many fans have come to know.

Possibly because there has never been a game with both weapons in it. Previous to Halo 4, there was no possible way to know how the BR would stack up against the DMR. I would also like to add that out of 6 games, the BR has only been featured twice. It’s not a “ubiquitous” weapon like, say, the AR or Sniper.

> Halo is a game about niches, every weapon gets it’s chance to shine in the ideal circumstance.

This is a good thing, to be sure.

> The BR was in the spotlight for H2/H3 and the DMR has since stolen it. Now I tried to remain unbiased here with this metaphor but maybe it leaked through the hard fact. The BR needs a buff.

Wait, I thought you said all weapons need a chance to shine, but now you just want the BR to be #1? You can’t have both.

Besides, the DMR is potentially more difficult to use than the BR at close range, since the BR’s tri-burst could miss, then hit a single trigger pull.

I find this thread very amusing, since I recall the days of Reach where everyone was using the DMR and complaining about the “reticle bloom”. Now, I see suggestions to add reticle bloom as a way to balance the gun. How about this? Just decrease the damage slightly, and things should be fine.

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These arguements about the DMR being overpowered are so silly. First off even if it is more powerful than the BR (which by facts its not) is it any different in how much more powerful the BR was than the AR in Halo 3. I know your next arguement will be well you didn’t always spawn with a BR except in that playlist. Which is true but there were always 4-6 Br’s spread over the map to pick up so much so by the end of the match 80% of the people were using the BR. So in Halo 3 everyone used the BR, in other games everyone used the Magnum. If you think it is soooo overpowered why not start using the weapon (my suspicion is 95% of the people here saying they are not using it because it is too overpowered, if I checked your stats your primary weapon is a DMR). To unlock the ability to use the DMR you have to get to SR5 which takes all of 5-6 matches. Finally if you find it way to powerful and you are too honorable to use it well learn to play the game. Seriously the DMR is excellent from a distance but if you truly are a master of Halo soo good that you don’t have to use this overpowered weapon then learn how to battle in close. If you lose a close quarters battle to someone using a DMR and you have an AR, Suppressor, Needler, Shotgun, Magnum than sorry your not as good as you say you are.

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Yes DMR is WAY overpowered

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> > I never get killed by DMRs, mostly by rocket/sniper/inceneration cannon noobs that camp life with those weapons.
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> > Anyway I use BR all the time, I love my Artic Skin ~<3
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> I might have to join your games because all I see is everybody using the DMR

Funny you say that all you see is people with DMR’s in your game yet in your stats you have only been killed by a DMR 329 times out of your 1755 deaths. That means you are killed with DMR about 18% of the time. You have been killed by a BR 208 times for 12%. If the DMR is truly being used by soooo many ppl and if it is sooo overpowered why are those numbers so close?

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> > > I too refuse to use the DMR, it’s way too consistent across ALL -Yoink!- ranges.
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> > That’s a good reason. It’s good, so you won’t use it.
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> It could be something called integrity? I could go and use the DMR and make life easier but it’s not akin to my or someone elses style. The game is a stage and we get to choose how we perform, currently the DMR is naturally outperforming the BR and that’s not the Halo that many fans have come to know. Halo is a game about niches, every weapon gets it’s chance to shine in the ideal circumstance. The BR was in the spotlight for H2/H3 and the DMR has since stolen it. Now I tried to remain unbiased here with this metaphor but maybe it leaked through the hard fact. The BR needs a buff.

If the DMR is soo much better than the BR why is it that you have 338 deaths to the BR and only 362 to the DMR. If the DMR is as overpowered as you say it is and is used by sooo many players that it is ruining the game why is it that you have only died to it 24 more times than you have died to the BR. Is the BR overpowered too then. Because by your logic less people are using the BR (quite significantly) so that means your opportunity to die to the BR should be much much less yet you have only 24 more deaths to the DMR. By your own flawed logic it appears the BR is way too overpowered and should be removed from the game.

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People the simple way to end this silly arguement is by the numbers. Go in and look at what weapons you die to and how often.

If it is true that most people are using the DMR in the game and that the DMR is way overpowered why are deaths to the DMR and the BR so similar. If in fact too many people are using the DMR meaning that a larger portion of the population is using it online that means your opportunity to die to this weapon is much greater than the BR, its simple math. So if that is true and more people are using it but your deaths to the 2 weapons are similar one could easily draw the conclusion that the BR is more powerful(I don’t believe this but the numbers would suggest this more than the contrary that people seem to believe). Simply because if less people are using it but people are dying to it just as much as the DMR or close to it than that means people using the BR are getting more kills than those using the DMR per match.

Before you start with these silly arguements please just look at the stats. If the DMR was truly more powerful and everyone was using it than your amount of deaths to that weapon would greatly outnumber your deaths to the BR. But that is simply not the case and people just want to complain because someone else is a little better at the game then they are.

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> People the simple way to end this silly arguement is by the numbers. Go in and look at what weapons you die to and how often.
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> If it is true that most people are using the DMR in the game and that the DMR is way overpowered why are deaths to the DMR and the BR so similar. If in fact too many people are using the DMR meaning that a larger portion of the population is using it online that means your opportunity to die to this weapon is much greater than the BR, its simple math. So if that is true and more people are using it but your deaths to the 2 weapons are similar one could easily draw the conclusion that the BR is more powerful(I don’t believe this but the numbers would suggest this more than the contrary that people seem to believe). Simply because if less people are using it but people are dying to it just as much as the DMR or close to it than that means people using the BR are getting more kills than those using the DMR per match.
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> Before you start with these silly arguements please just look at the stats. If the DMR was truly more powerful and everyone was using it than your amount of deaths to that weapon would greatly outnumber your deaths to the BR. But that is simply not the case and people just want to complain because someone else is a little better at the game then they are.

This. This just needs to be copied and pasted on all of the “DMR is OP/Nerf the DMR” threads.

Then DMR needs to be replaced with boltshot and pasted on those threads too.

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> > I see of a lot of bs comments in here, guys. Everyone knows that the br is the most used load out weapon in the game. You can sit there and shoot the damn thing for days until you have to reload; while on the other hand, the DMR will need reloads after about 10 shoots. The DMR is fine, the BR is fine, and the AR is fine. It’s the BOLTSHOT that has the most power.
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> lol the boltshot is only useful against baddies
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> It’s the easiest thing to avoid in the game. Here’s a hint: don’t chase people mindlessly around corners, and don’t charge into someone corner camping.
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> If you use your brain, the boltshot isn’t a problem.

Since you’re giving me tips, it’s implied that you are under the impression that I get killed by the Boltshot like a ”mindless” pursuer. I’ll have to relatiate by saying that you don’t have to camp for the Boltshot to be effective and retreating from a charged shot in close proximity is akin to evading a shotgun in close proximity(which is not likely to occur so often). Why would anyone in their right mind “chase people mindlessly around corners,” when they are holding a weapon capable of the same amount of damage as a shotgun, sword or gravity hammer?

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how is the dmr and br different from the sniper and shotgun. The sniper can compete with the shotgun at close range if you’r aim is good enough, but the shotgun can’t touch the sniper at mid-long range. The shotgun’s advantage close range is that it’s easier to use than the sniper.

To me both of these situations are similar. What do you guys think?

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The biggest problem is that the DMR can easily match the BR at the BR’s optimum range but no the DMR’s optimum range.

But if you can look at my stats, my weapon spreads easily show how the DMR isn’t really THAT OP compared to the BR.

BR Spread: +650
DMR Spread: -150

And the DMR spread is probably negative only because sooo many people use it.

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It is -Yoinking!- up the game more a bit. It is strong as hell. Easy to make up missed shots with too. Shoots fast and easily…

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the DMR sucks

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Leave the DMR as it is, possibly adding a bit of bloom and buff the BR slightly. Everyone on here is moan moan moan though!

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I think it’s fine. Maybe you could find a way to beat it?

(move from cover-to-cover)
(active camo)

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OP is doing di girly boo-boo.

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> People the simple way to end this silly arguement is by the numbers. Go in and look at what weapons you die to and how often.
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> If it is true that most people are using the DMR in the game and that the DMR is way overpowered why are deaths to the DMR and the BR so similar. If in fact too many people are using the DMR meaning that a larger portion of the population is using it online that means your opportunity to die to this weapon is much greater than the BR, its simple math. So if that is true and more people are using it but your deaths to the 2 weapons are similar one could easily draw the conclusion that the BR is more powerful(I don’t believe this but the numbers would suggest this more than the contrary that people seem to believe). Simply because if less people are using it but people are dying to it just as much as the DMR or close to it than that means people using the BR are getting more kills than those using the DMR per match.
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> Before you start with these silly arguements please just look at the stats. If the DMR was truly more powerful and everyone was using it than your amount of deaths to that weapon would greatly outnumber your deaths to the BR. But that is simply not the case and people just want to complain because someone else is a little better at the game then they are.

Deaths:
BR - 530
DMR - 832

-Note the amount of deaths to the DMR compared to any other weapon.

Now that’s out of the way let me tell you why the DMR is op like all the studies and facts and tests that have been posted on this forum.

DMR:
-14 shots in mag, takes 5 to kill, so you can kill 2 targets and miss 4 shots.
-No recoil
-Instant muzzle reset
-Fast Kill time
-No bloom(now you can spam this -Yoink- too with no consequences!)
-Deadly at any range
-Massive aim assist from hip and when scoped
-Does not un-scope when hit(for a gun with instant muzzle reset and no recoil this a huge advantage over all other guns).
-Does good dmg to vehicles (teams using DMRs can shred vehicles in seconds)

All this coupled with the sub-par maps in this game make this an extremely threatening weapon. If anything one could use it against any and every situation. Cross mapping is a complete joke and is literally forcing no map movement.

Engagements are stagnant and utterly boring with people camping behind walls and running away every time their shields go down because they can just camp one spot due to the effective range of this gun.

The DMR has turned this game into a run and hide camp fest that promotes long, stagnant, boring games and has removed any feel that halo once had because those epic medium/close range engagements are avoided. THIS IS NOT HALO!

Battle Rifle:
-36 bullets in mag, 3 per shot, 5 to kill so 15 bullets per kill, two kills per mag. Allows for two missed shots.
-Muzzle does not reset after each shot.
-Has recoil (after every burst).
-Slight bloom.
-All 3 bullets must hit a shielded target to maximize dmg
-moderate vehicle kill time
-Effective at medium/close range against other BRs/Carbines/Light Rifles, but questionable against full auto rifles.

The BR was the original source of Halo 2s and 3s greatness. It didn’t have the range and power of the DMR so people didn’t need to be afraid to move across the map and people didn’t always spawn with depending on the playlist. End even though it was the go to weapon for medium to moderately long engagements it was nowhere near as effective against everything like the DMR is.

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I hate people that use dmr on small maps like haven or abandon. They only do good if they post up a camp and pick people off (especially in regicide). Otherwise they do terrible. I do find the dmr to be too powerful per shot when it comes to body shots when your shields are down. It takes like two shots instead of three I think…

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> > 100% agreed carbine user here
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> i’m goot with the Carby, i just had to leave it, couldnt take on more than 2 opponents

Same thing happened to me a few days ago. Make no mistake, I can use the Carbine. It was my fav and most used weapon, but I just had to leave it as well. Now I have much less frustration than before.

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14 MOTHER-FLAPPIN PAGES about how over powered it is and people still think that 343 will nerf the DMR just because people use it a lot. The DMR and the BR both provide their advantages. DMR is good for long range, BR is good for spamming. It’s like getting mad at people in Call of Duty for use an automatic sniper and you only use the bolt action.