I want to use the BR because of my H2 nostalgia, but the DMR makes using it useless. The BR is supposed to be more effective at close to mid range, but when I use the DMR I am probably about even against kids of my skill level at close range using BR, and at mid range and on I never lose a battle. Either the DMR shoots faster, or it’s just too accurate because I never lose battles at mid range to a BR. I think the BR is balanced perfectly, it takes skill to use at its ranges and is really satisfying. The DMR just feels cheap because I 5shot people constantly at a range where I would have zoom in to kill with BR. I can’t imagine how bad SWAT is gonna be this week.
The DMR is fine, the BR just needs to be buffed to a 4sk.
But then the BR would be overpowered.
> But then the BR would be overpowered.
No make the br a 4sk like it was in h3. Make dmr 5sk.
Br is terrible long range and doesnt have a clear advantage close range against the dmr
I hate the way the BR sounds in this game so I use DMR anyway. But I agree. The BR needs to be more powerful at mid range or the DMR needs to be less powerful at midrange.
> Br is terrible long range…
Terrible is a bit hyperbolic. It’s true that it doesn’t excel at long range gunfights but then I wouldn’t expect it to. It isn’t a real long range weapon.
> …and doesnt have a clear advantage close range against the dmr
Honestly, Shadowz, I’ve yet to see any such advantage. I have, however, seen plenty of close-mid, close and a few mid range engagements with the BR coming out on top. It only begins to have serious issues with the DMR in long-mid and long range battles. It seems to me that it’s just matter of understanding their respective ranges. I’m open to a change of opinion, but at the moment I’d say both weapons are almost fine as is.
As an aside, I’ve slowly been gravitating towards the BR after my initial heavy usage of the DMR. I love them both!
The only thing over powered in this game is that stupid pistol.
> The only thing over powered in this game is that stupid pistol.
Which? The bolt?
DMR is without a doubt op. it excels at every range easily except melee, and even then it can still work. Maybe if aim assist was dropped or if u use DMR you can’t use secondary. Or less bullets in clip, reduce rate of fire. To those who say adapt, would you adapt to a starting weapon rocket launcher with infinite ammo, never needs to reload , rapid fire. It is possible for a starting weapon to be op, just cuz everyone can use it doesn’t make it any better
> DMR is without a doubt op. it excels at every range easily except melee, and even then it can still work. Maybe if aim assist was dropped or if u use DMR you can’t use secondary. Or less bullets in clip, reduce rate of fire. To those who say adapt, would you adapt to a starting weapon rocket launcher with infinite ammo, never needs to reload , rapid fire. It is possible for a starting weapon to be op, just cuz everyone can use it doesn’t make it any better
Really, Lissom? So you’d rather have a DMR over an AR in a close range battle? That’s… interesting. I accept opinions will vary and the very fact that this is a somewhat common topic is evidence that a lot of people do think the DMR is overwhelming. But your post is pretty over the top. You’ve likened it to an infinite clip rapid fire rocket launcher with infinite ammo, dude.
C’mon.
IMO the DMR is more effective then the BR. The DMR takes 5 shots to kill someone when the BR aswell takes 5 shots, but they are bursts. And the BR burst is where it lacks to compete with the DMR. The BR you have to land 15 perfect bullets on your opponent if u wanna win a fight. and at mid to long range, You prob wont land all 3 shots from every burst. 
Not going to lie but the “boltshot” Is OP as hell haha. This weapon is my favorite secondary weapon guarantied kill if someone is up close around any corner, or put them one shot for the easy kill.
Although this isn’t about the Boltshot, yes it is awesome in close range HOWEVER very difficult to use due to minimum AND maximum charge time, giving you a very small window of opportunity, and the fire rate is atrocious. It gets me killed trying to use it as often as I get a kill with it.
Back on topic, the BR has an advantage over the DMR, at least in my experience, in getting the last hit. I haven’t counted bullets but if you take out someone’s shield with a headshot, the three-round-burst feature results in a headshot immediately afterwards.
The end result being, if you take someone’s shield out with a headshot you’ll instantly get the kill. Theoretically this is a 2/3 chance of happening but I get this every time in campaign.
I still go with the DMR however, purely because I prefer the look. The BR is too blocky to take seriously =P
Don’t know what you’re talking about, I love the Br…
I’d have to disagree. I’ve seen each weapon work at it’s designed range with extreme efficiency. I’ve used the BR, DMR, and Carbine as well as the suppressor, storm rifle, and assault rifle.
Now what I can say from experience is that the only guns that win in CQC besides power-weapons like the SAW and shotty are storm, assault, and suppressor rifles. Sometimes the BR. I’ve actually yet to see a DMR beat an Assault rifle at the ranges mentioned above. And quite frankly, you don’t even have to hit all five bursts to win a DMR-BR encounter at mid-range. DMR’s really only excel at long ranges on maps like Ragnarok.
However, I’m just sharing my experiences here but the Covenant Carbine is pretty unstoppable at mid-range to DMR Range. I’d pay more attention to it than the M395.
Why can’t people accept the fact that the DMR is designed to kill faster than the BR if they’re good with it. Frankie even stated it this.
I’ve been using both weapons a lot and the BR is definately easier to get the last headshot with. If someone does a really good strafe and I have a DMR, I most likely will miss, but with the BR it’s soo easy.
I think they are equally powerful, but the DMR requires more skill. Someone who is good with the DMR is going to beat someone who is good with the BR most of the time at most ranges, but if both players are unskilled then most of the time the player with the BR will win. Just comes down to whether or not your landing 5/5 headshots or taking 6-7 shots for it.
> > Br is terrible long range…
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> Terrible is a bit hyperbolic. It’s true that it doesn’t excel at long range gunfights but then I wouldn’t expect it to. It isn’t a real long range weapon.
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> <mark>Honestly, Shadowz, I’ve yet to see any such advantage</mark>. I have, however, seen plenty of close-mid, close and a few mid range engagements with the BR coming out on top. It only begins to have serious issues with the DMR in long-mid and long range battles. It seems to me that it’s just matter of understanding their respective ranges. I’m open to a change of opinion, but at the moment I’d say both weapons are almost fine as is.
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> As an aside, I’ve slowly been gravitating towards the BR after my initial heavy usage of the DMR. I love them both!
Every Br I have ever ran into at close or long range, I have easily defeated, hands down, no contest. And I’m an average skilled player with a global average of 1.3 K/D over all Halo games.
Okay this is how I see it.
The BR to me as I’m shooting at an enemy doesn’t kill them as quickly as I remember. There as been SO MANY times where I think “okay one more spray and he’s done. (as he’s running away from me)” I’m nailing him in the back of the head and he’s still running, chase him more, shooting him more, not dead…Next thing you know, HERE COMES SHARK TEAM right behind me! X.X
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That’s my only issue. I mean, I’ve been playing halo since CE, and I’ve never found anything more frustrating then a gun that’s played one specific way, all of a sudden changed to almost feel like it requires more shots to kill.
One other thing. SHARK TEAM? STING RAY TEAM? WHAT. THE. HELL. KIND. OF. GAME. IS. THIS?
Thank you<3
I have to disagree. I think the ASSAULT RIFLE is OP because it is too powerful mid-range.
> I have to disagree. I think the ASSAULT RIFLE is OP because it is too powerful mid-range.
It’s supposed to be effective up to a certain point, and I have used it and it’s not too OP. I have been matched up against them as well and I have beaten them close/mid range with DMR, you just have to move around.