Listen, ALL of you!
It’s NOT that the DMR is OVERPOWERED, It’s that the BR is UNDERPOWERED.
Reason the DMR isn’t Over-Powered?
In reach, it was good at all ranges, in this game, thats the same.
Reason the BR is Under-Powered?
In halo 2; and halo 3 it was good at all ranges, including LONG RANGE, in halo 4, it SUCKS at Long Range battles.
Just because the BR isn’t good at long range it does not mean “omg guise!1!1!!! DMR is so overpowerd!!” It’s just the BR in this game, sucks. Face the truth, the BR at the moment, it sucks! Don’t be mad because it cannot be used in long range, and the DMR can.
Thank you for the colored text and exclamation points galore. They really hammered the point home.
The DMR can out snipe a sniper. Especially with the scope jump when you get shot.
Plus I reckon getting descoped made more scene game play wise than recoil. \
Also, The DMR beats the BR at all ranges, not just long range.
when i played both weapon, i find DMR is more effect for most range than BR
The BR should just get a slight ROF buff and de-scoping upon being shot should return.
> Listen, ALL of you!
>
> It’s NOT that the DMR is OVERPOWERED, It’s that the BR is UNDERPOWERED.
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> Reason the DMR isn’t Over-Powered?
> In reach, it was good at all ranges, in this game, thats the same.
>
> Reason the BR is Under-Powered?
> In halo 2; and halo 3 it was good at all ranges, including LONG RANGE, in halo 4, it SUCKS at Long Range battles.
>
> Just because the BR isn’t good at long range it does not mean “omg guise!1!1!!! DMR is so overpowerd!!” It’s just the BR in this game, sucks. Face the truth, the BR at the moment, it sucks! Don’t be mad because it cannot be used in long range, and the DMR can.
I have an idea!
Let’s take the BR, scrap it, and go back to the Halo 2 E3 Demo Battle Rifle, it’s great for short to med range, and it’s great for long range.
Burst weapons are great for short to med range, any farther and you’ll be wasting ammo trying to hit a target, thus why most snipers and marksmen use single shot, not burst.
> Listen, ALL of you!
>
> It’s NOT that the DMR is OVERPOWERED, It’s that the BR is UNDERPOWERED.
>
> Reason the DMR isn’t Over-Powered?
> In reach, it was good at all ranges, in this game, thats the same.
>
> Reason the BR is Under-Powered?
> In halo 2; and halo 3 it was good at all ranges, including LONG RANGE, in halo 4, it SUCKS at Long Range battles.
>
> Just because the BR isn’t good at long range it does not mean “omg guise!1!1!!! DMR is so overpowerd!!” It’s just the BR in this game, sucks. Face the truth, the BR at the moment, it sucks! Don’t be mad because it cannot be used in long range, and the DMR can.
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The DMR in Halo: Reach also had reticle bloom and players were un-scoped when shot preventing it from being too effective and extreme long range and close ranges. The weapon’s damage itself is fine and unchanged from Halo: Reach. Since the DMR no longer has bloom though, slightly slowing, i mean by like half of a second maybe less, its rate of fire would make it less dominate outside it’s intended range.
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The Halo 4 BR is almost literally identical to the Halo 3 BR. Similar spread, exact same kill speed, same damage per bullet. The only difference now, besides maybe some tweaks to bullet magnetism, is the general size of the maps and the DMR also being in the mix.
In summery, slightly slowing down the DMR’s rate of fire and bringing back un-scoping when being shot would fix a lot of the problems with the DMR/BR and long range game play in general, in my opinion.
PS: The Carbine is a beast at close to medium range and would be even more so if scope knockout was brought back. Also regarding the Stalker perk, i believe it should be totally repurposed, especially if scope knockout is to return. Maybe have it as a hard counter to Wetwork and players that use Active Camo, i don’t know I’m just throwing out ideas.
You still get beat using a carbine when the other person has a DMR and doesn’t miss. I use nothing but the carbine and I find this weapon is severely underpowered in about all situations even when you don’t miss your 8 SHOTS!
> You still get beat using a carbine when the other person has a DMR and doesn’t miss. I use nothing but the carbine and I find this weapon is severely underpowered in about all situations even when you don’t miss your 8 SHOTS!
I guess i can see where you are coming from, I actually use the Carbine with AA to get the jump on people. It could use a damage boost but nothing drastic, just enough that it would win in close quarters fights if both players connected all their shots.
In this game more than ever they really made it so every gun has a purpose, a range, a skill set. The DMR is good at all ranges at the moment so i believe a nerf of some sort should be made to keep it a long range rifle and not the all purpose gun.
> In this game and in this game more than ever they really made it so every gun has a purpose, a range, a skill set. The DMR is good at all ranges at the moment so i believe a nerf of some sort should be made to keep it a long range rifle and not the all purpose gun.
Agreed, the Light Rifle and DMR would be long range but compliment different Styles. The BR would be for mid ranged combat, competing with the Carbine the closer the two players get. That is, if the Carbine receives a small increase in damage. Finally the automatic weapons and the Carbine would have dominance over Close Quarters.
> > In this game and in this game more than ever they really made it so every gun has a purpose, a range, a skill set. The DMR is good at all ranges at the moment so i believe a nerf of some sort should be made to keep it a long range rifle and not the all purpose gun.
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> Agreed, the Light Rifle and DMR would be long range but compliment different Styles. The BR would be for mid ranged combat, competing with the Carbine the closer the two players get. That is, if the Carbine receives a small increase in damage. Finally the automatic weapons and the Carbine would have dominance over Close Quarters.
I agree with both a DMR nerf and Carbine buff to really balance out the rifles. Regardless im quite impressed in how well the game is balanced out the gate tho. Good job 343.
> The DMR can out snipe a sniper. Especially with the scope jump when you get shot.
If you have a sniper at long range, and someone beats you with a DMR at the same range, it means you suck at sniping. Don’t believe me? Add me on Xbox Live, and we will go long range, and I will snipe the crap out of you.