So we all know the BR is making a return, but what about the DMR? Frankie said himself the BR was NOT a replacement for the DMR. Im curious how these two weapons will balance together. Both awesome precision weapons could make some games fairly interesting if you ask me.
Nice… the DMR and the BR.
Maybe they’ll have the Carbine and the Needle Rifle too.
It’s highly likely the DMR will not be back, in fact wasn’t it mentioned that a single shot weapon would be in instead? while it could be the DMR i really don’t think it is.
> It’s highly likely the DMR will not be back, in fact wasn’t it mentioned that a single shot weapon would be in instead? while it could be the DMR i really don’t think it is.
Where was it mentioned??
It wouldn’t be canonically correct for the DMR to return. During the later years of the Human-Covenant War, they were being phased out in most military factions by the BR. The only faction that used it extensively was Army; Noble Team in Reach was Army and Chief was Navy, so it wouldn’t make sense for the chief to downgrade.
If anything, the Carbine from Halo 2 and Halo 3 will make that single shot replacement role.
Edited the italicized text above^
> It wouldn’t be canonically correct for the DMR to return. During the later years of the Human-Covenant War, they were being phased out in most military factions by the BR. The only faction that used it extensively was Army; Noble Team in Reach was Army and <mark>Chief was a Marine</mark>, so it wouldn’t make sense for the chief to downgrade.
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> If anything, the Crabine from Halo 2 and Halo 3 will make that single shot replacement role.
Erm…what? The only Chiefs the Marines have are Warrants, not Petty Officers.
Master Chief is Navy.
I took Frankie’s comments to mean that we would see the DMR, or a variant of it, return in Halo 4. The DMR is one of my favourite weapons to use in all of Halo so I do hope we haven’t seen the last of it. I wouldn’t be surprised if it was near identical in stopping power to the BR.
> > It wouldn’t be canonically correct for the DMR to return. During the later years of the Human-Covenant War, they were being phased out in most military factions by the BR. The only faction that used it extensively was Army; Noble Team in Reach was Army and <mark>Chief was a Marine</mark>, so it wouldn’t make sense for the chief to downgrade.
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> > If anything, the Crabine from Halo 2 and Halo 3 will make that single shot replacement role.
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> Erm…what? The only Chiefs the Marines have are Warrants, not Petty Officers.
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> Master Chief is Navy.
Oh yeah. My bad. Tired this morning…
> > It’s highly likely the DMR will not be back, in fact wasn’t it mentioned that a single shot weapon would be in instead? while it could be the DMR i really don’t think it is.
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> Where was it mentioned??
I think it was the Bulletin interview with Frankie, can’t remember, seem’s i’m good at absorbing information yet cannot remember where from!
There was no suggestion whether it would be DMR one way or another. He just said that the three-shot BR being back does not mean there won’t be any single shot weapons. He never expanded on that though.
I can see the DMR return.
I imagine it to have a longer range than the BR with a better scope, with a fixed firerate a tiny bit slower than the BR, so that the DMR killtime is equal to the 5 burst BR killtime.
The DMR would be better for long ranges because of the lack of recoil, while the BR would be better at medium ranges, because of it potentially being a 4-shot if all bullets register.
Just speculating, but having it like this would be awesome.
I rather a carbine.
I hope so. The DMR has great potential as a long-ranged weapon, i.e. something inbetween the DMR and Sniper Rifle… in Reach it was shoe-horned into the BR’s range and suffered because of it, that wasn’t a great example. It needs these changes:
> Ditch bloom
> Increase minimum time between shots
> Make it require 5 headshots, not 4 bodyshots and a headshot
You now have a useful and balanced ranged weapon.
No DMR the BR is better.
Im not a fan of the DMR or i should say, im not a fan of the bloom, if they can make it like the Covenant Carbine for Halo 4 then i’ll be a lot happier about it.
> No DMR the BR is better.
You’ve missed the point to an almost impressive degree.
Replace the DMR with the carbine. I don’t see the DMR and BR being balanced.
The carbine worked against the BR because it had such a higher fire rate, but it sacrificed damage. The DMR does almost as much damage as the BR (assuming the BR hits all three shots), and unless tweaked, will be able to fire faster than the BR.
The BR is also much harder to use than the DMR, as it requires you to lead shots.
> Replace the DMR with the carbine. I don’t see the DMR and BR being balanced.
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> The carbine worked against the BR because it had such a higher fire rate, but it sacrificed damage. The DMR does almost as much damage as the BR (assuming the BR hits all three shots), and unless tweaked, will be able to fire faster than the BR.
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> The BR is also much harder to use than the DMR, as it requires you to lead shots.
In halo 4, it was confirmed that the BR was hitscan, so that means no more needing to lead shots.
> > Replace the DMR with the carbine. I don’t see the DMR and BR being balanced.
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> > The carbine worked against the BR because it had such a higher fire rate, but it sacrificed damage. The DMR does almost as much damage as the BR (assuming the BR hits all three shots), and unless tweaked, will be able to fire faster than the BR.
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> > The BR is also much harder to use than the DMR, as it requires you to lead shots.
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> In halo 4, it was confirmed that the BR was hitscan, so that means no more needing to lead shots.
You have to lead your target. The three bullets in a BR burst are shot at different moments, so your reticule has to be on the target until the burst is over.
> Replace the DMR with the carbine. I don’t see the DMR and BR being balanced.
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> The carbine worked against the BR because it had such a higher fire rate, but it sacrificed damage. The DMR does almost as much damage as the BR (assuming the BR hits all three shots), and unless tweaked, will be able to fire faster than the BR.
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> The BR is also much harder to use than the DMR, as it requires you to lead shots.
You don’t see the DMR and BR being balanced? Please, explain.
Things such as weapon tables can and will be modified. Comparing them is thus utterly pointless.
Leading shots depends on hitscan, which can be turned on or off for either weapon.