I just played Halo 4 war games and I came here because I got fed up of DMR dominance.
Yep this thread again…
DMR in its current state is The God Weapon. You can’t deny it because it’s simply the truth. It has the fastest kill time, can be used in all ranges, inflicts more damage to vehicles than BR/Carbine and also causes more flinch to enemy who is using scope than other rifles.
This is very frustrating because it’s clearly OP but still 343 put it into game. It MUST be patched ASAP.
343 should either:
Nerf DMR
or
Buff Carbine/BR
IMO buffing BR and Carbine would be better because faster killtimes fit better to Halo 4s fast gameplay. What do you think?
I to have noticed this, I used the BR for the first few days, but now everyone uses DMR and it taking me down much faster than I even when i get first hit.
Personally I think they just need to nerf the DMR, but boosting the BR and carbine would also work fine for me.
You are absolutely right, the dmr needs to be nerfed tho imo. I don’t want to speed up the gameplay anymore because its starting to stray away from the halo feel. I think carbine needs medium speed buff, and the dmr needs a minor speed nerf. The weapon that takes the most skill, (carbine) is the weakest of them all, which makes no sense. Battle rifle loses to dmr at all ranges, which also makes no sense. This needs to be fixed bad.
> I to have noticed this, <mark>I used the BR for the first few days</mark>, but now everyone uses DMR and it taking me down much faster than I even when i get first hit.
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> Personally I think they just need to nerf the DMR, but boosting the BR and carbine would also work fine for me.
I did the same thing with my favorite weapon Carbine but then I realised the hard truth. I hope that 343 fixes this ASAP.
Having used the DMR and BR a good bit, I’d say they’re fine as is. The BR dominates in at close ranges while the DMR is the victor at long ranges. I’m pretty sure that’s how it’s meant to be. At medium ranges, I do equally well with both. The carbine does seem a bit weak from what I’ve experienced, but I haven’t put enough time with it to really tell.
Still don’t understand this. I’ve run into way, WAY more BR spam than I have DMR. Sure, a lot of people use it, because on bigger maps like Ragnarok, or even just maps with a few long range firing alleys it’s a good weapon.
You try using the DMR in CQB and you’re dead meat. But you use the BR, odds are you’ll still win. If anything, the BR is more potent than the DMR; it’s still damn accurate at range, you can still almost snipe with it, and you can spam it in close range at a rate that makes the AR almost pointless.
The DMR is fine, the BR is bordering on broken and the AR kind of loses out to both. And then there’s the other weapons… (Except Boltshot, that thing is just bloody broken. Pocket shotgun at the start of the level? Load of utter YOINK!)
DMR ruined halo…Reach Sucked and now Reach 2.0 sucks…343 How hard is it to see DMR is not halo Br is and Sprint is not Halo!
And you guy claim to be Halo players…Yah right must be 24/7 campaigning nerds
deff not competitive …and halo always was the small arena competitive game you made it into a noob fest with no longevity…
In my own opinion, they should at least buff the BR to a 4 shot. I cant speak for the carbine because I’ve never used it before other than in campaign. My friend and I just ran a test and even at point blank the DMR beats the BR. This is unacceptable because the DMR is supposed to be used for long ranges and not short, the BR is supposed to cover the efficiency gap between the DMR and the AR. The BR deserves a buff, it’s that simple.
> DMR ruined halo…Reach Sucked and now Reach 2.0 sucks…343 How hard is it to see DMR is not halo Br is and Sprint is not Halo!
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> And you guy claim to be Halo players…Yah right must be 24/7 campaigning nerds
> deff not competitive …and halo always was the small arena competitive game you made it into a noob fest with no longevity…
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> RIP
Oh god…someone, please, pass me a bucket. Better make that buckets…
‘IM UBER LEET DIEHARD FAN U ALL SUCK COS U NO LIKE WHAT I LIKE I SAY HALO MUST BE THIS AND U ALL WRONG!!!1’
Dude, please. BR is spammed WAY more than DMR. And was Reach still played by thousands of people who were perfectly happy with it? Glory be, indeed it was!
Sounds like you’re in the minority here.
> Still don’t understand this. I’ve run into way, WAY more BR spam than I have DMR. Sure, a lot of people use it, because on bigger maps like Ragnarok, or even just maps with a few long range firing alleys it’s a good weapon.
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> <mark>You try using the DMR in CQB and you’re dead meat.</mark> But you use the BR, odds are you’ll still win. If anything, the BR is more potent than the DMR; it’s still damn accurate at range, you can still almost snipe with it, and you can spam it in close range at a rate that makes the AR almost pointless.
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> The DMR is fine, the BR is bordering on broken and the AR kind of loses out to both. And then there’s the other weapons… (Except Boltshot, that thing is just bloody broken. Pocket shotgun at the start of the level? Load of utter YOINK!)
But that is not true! I have tested this in customs and DMR wins BR everytime when spammed in close range but DMR user is left with no shields. It should be other way around. BR should be slightly more powerfull because DMR can be used in long range unlike BR. Also Carbine needs serious buff that thing can’t even kill a double melee runner… -.-’
If you’re testing that against another non-friend player then the odds are they’d kill you with whatever weapon they had. I’m no uber-leet pro or any such nonsense, but I’m certainly not bad. And in a face to face battle with a DMR vs BR then my DMR tends to come off worse. Maybe it’s just bad luck, lag, me having a bad day or who knows what. But I do find it evens out.
Carbine and Storm rifle I barely ever see, because why would you bother? They do need some help.
Light Rifle is alright, and the Boltshot is just plain broken. I’m sorry, but having a respawning pocket shotgun that can one-shot someone from full shields is not cool in any way shape or form.
> Its the Forerunner’s way of laughing at the Unggoy and their shiny new vehicle disabling plasma pistol.
Not sure if joking, but as a serious reply;
Magnum: Can headshot, scope
Plasma: Can’t headshot, no scope, can EMP
Boltshot: Can headshot, no scope, can Shotgun
Being able to EMP vehicles and armour is a good trade-off for the Plasma’s lack of scope and headshot ability. The Magnum is average but made competetive due to the scope and ability to headshot. The Boltshot can headshot…AND it can one-shot someone from full health and shields like a shotgun. And it’s a weapon you can spawn with.
Am I the only one seeing imbalance here? They don’t let people spawn with a Shotgun, so why can people spawn with a Boltshit which is entirely capable of doing the exact same thing?
> > DMR ruined halo…Reach Sucked and now Reach 2.0 sucks…343 How hard is it to see DMR is not halo Br is and Sprint is not Halo!
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> You’re most used weapon is the DMR. I don’t get it. If it sucks, why do you use it?
Nice argument, apart from the fact that the DMR has a slower kill time than the BR (tested, counted frames). It’s not much, only 0.04 seconds but still. Also, the Carbine is fine from my experience.
Yeah, BR should be a 4 shot, end of! It’s so stupid. This Halo could of possibly been as good as Halo 3, but it’s small things like this and the CoD -Yoink- that kill it.
DMR dominance? I’ve never encountered a large group of people using the DMR. I personally think it blows in this game,unless used for long range. I find the most used weapon us either the Carbine or BR. and all the long range engagements I’ve been in always delt with the light rifle (more damage when scoped in, or so it seems. I personally think you’d be worst off using the DMR due to its slow fire rate. because the Carbine is semi auto, so your finger speed is the amount of shots you can get off, and the BR just speaks for itself in close range battles. of the loadouts I have One has the DMR and I never use it because I prefer the carbine over anything.
long story short IMHO the balance is fine. That being said I"m only one person.
> > Still don’t understand this. I’ve run into way, WAY more BR spam than I have DMR. Sure, a lot of people use it, because on bigger maps like Ragnarok, or even just maps with a few long range firing alleys it’s a good weapon.
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> > <mark>You try using the DMR in CQB and you’re dead meat.</mark> But you use the BR, odds are you’ll still win. If anything, the BR is more potent than the DMR; it’s still damn accurate at range, you can still almost snipe with it, and you can spam it in close range at a rate that makes the AR almost pointless.
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> > The DMR is fine, the BR is bordering on broken and the AR kind of loses out to both. And then there’s the other weapons… (Except Boltshot, that thing is just bloody broken. Pocket shotgun at the start of the level? Load of utter YOINK!)
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> But that is not true! <mark>I have tested this in customs</mark> and DMR wins BR everytime when spammed in close range but DMR user is left with no shields. It should be other way around. BR should be slightly more powerfull because DMR can be used in long range unlike BR. Also Carbine needs serious buff that thing can’t even kill a double melee runner… -.-’
Test it in a real online match against other players.