DLC needs to be more relevant.

DLC needs to be more relevant.

What I mean is that in past Halo games, especially Reach, you were very very lucky to get a game with your DLC maps. I haven’t played a game on either the Defiant or Noble maps in months…

It really feels like I wasted my money.

When we look at a game like Battlefield 3 (possibly my favourite game in 2011), we can see that DLC implementation is very good. I play those new maps quite often (putting aside the fact that they were free for a good percentage of players)

It would be nice if Halo 4 implemented something which made new maps viable to purchase. Whether that’s offering more with the DLC or including a server browser; Simple map weighting in matchmaking isn’t working.

Thoughts?

I too wasted money on Map pack’s for Reach, unlike Halo 3 in which i got more than my moneys worth, i have hardly played on any Reach DLC map’s outside of the premium lists in which i hardly even touched anyway.

Ya that’s another thing I liked about halo 3 where certain playlists required you to have the map packs

I agree. I feel like there was really no point in buying the Noble and Defiant map pack.

I want my friends and other people in the community to WANT to buy the maps. Everybody says it is just a waist of money though.

> Ya that’s another thing I liked about halo 3 where certain playlists required you to have the map packs

Yeah. I remember before Reach was released, Bungie made some playlists DLC required. BTB had never been so fun.

Eh, ive bought every map pack and liked all of them.

No complaints here.

I think a return to DLC required playlists is a must in my opinion.

> Eh, ive bought every map pack and liked all of them.
>
> No complaints here.

It’s not that I didn’t like the maps, it’s just that they never come up.

> > Eh, ive bought every map pack and liked all of them.
> >
> > No complaints here.
>
> It’s not that I didn’t like the maps, it’s just that they never come up.

Im going to assume thats because many people dont even have them.

> > > Eh, ive bought every map pack and liked all of them.
> > >
> > > No complaints here.
> >
> > It’s not that I didn’t like the maps, it’s just that they never come up.
>
> Im going to assume thats because many people dont even have them.

Hence the title. Did you even read the OP, heh? :wink:

> > > > Eh, ive bought every map pack and liked all of them.
> > > >
> > > > No complaints here.
> > >
> > > It’s not that I didn’t like the maps, it’s just that they never come up.
> >
> > Im going to assume thats because many people dont even have them.
>
> Hence the title. Did you even read the OP, heh? :wink:

I did.

And you didnt mention players not having the maps.

There’s a little problem here when talking about DLC.

On one side you have the people who will buy the DLC from day one and on the other side you have the people who won’t bother with DLC, at all.

Halo 3 didn’t require DLC for a loooong time in any playlist save the DLC playlists, of course. They were slowly integrated into the several playlists and slowly replaced the old maps. They however did start requiring DLC to play MM.

Halo: Reach has a system that tries to put you together with people who has DLC, now I don’t know if it tries to put all people with the same DLC in the same cage, or just people with DLC together.

The first system finally punishes people who would like to continue playing but doesn’t bother with DLC for some of all the reasons out there not to buy DLC.

The other system can, and in Reach’s case punishes DLC buyers because. For all we know we could be playing with people who all have DLC but the system doesn’t put the DLC maps up at all.

So what tactic should i343 use?

First off, skip the “three maps in map pack for 800” crap and make more maps per map pack. Three maps for 800 have been a standard for a long time and I bet that if more maps were in a map pack then more people would buy it, simply because it’s “more for less”, that goes a long way.

Second, another DLC system should be put in place where you can opt for DLC content required or not. In other words when you go into a playlist you can tick a box that says you only want to be matched with people who have DLC. If it’s left unticked then you could potentially be matched with DLC only people, but chance is smaller, otherwise it’s the “standard” stuff.

Third, sales on previous map packs when new map packs hit the store. There’s no reason to have the old price on an old item when a new item hits the store, it could essentially lead to people buying both map packs, rahter than choosing between the two. Heck, some people would buy only the old one, but then again the players having the old DLC will increase and the rotation of those maps will also increase.

Fourth, atleast some DLC should come from inspiration from the community. You know the expression “by the players for the players”? I know I’d buy a map pack with that slogan.

> DLC needs to be more relevant.
>
> What I mean is that in past Halo games, especially Reach, you were very very lucky to get a game with your DLC maps. I haven’t played a game on either the Defiant or Noble maps in months…
>
> It really feels like I wasted my money.
>
> When we look at a game like Battlefield 3 (possibly my favourite game in 2011), we can see that DLC implementation is very good. I play those new maps quite often (putting aside the fact that they were free for a good percentage of players)
>
> It would be nice if Halo 4 implemented something which made new maps viable to purchase. Whether that’s offering more with the DLC or including a server browser; Simple map weighting in matchmaking isn’t working.
>
> Thoughts?

Squad DLC for reach. :smiley:

To be fair though, Reach was crap, so obviously not a lot of people are going to buy the maps. If H4 is better then I don’t think it will be a problem.

> To be fair though, Reach was crap, so obviously not a lot of people are going to buy the maps. If H4 is better then I don’t think it will be a problem.

If reach is crap go play HALO 3…

343 should make Squad dlc need all dlc and get rid of ann. playlists.

I agree, another good example is gears of war 3, When ever i play the dlc pops up just as often as the on disk maps, it’s great.