Disaster: Swat on Complex

Anyone else find this to be a bother? The general size of the map is way too big for this gametype.
Using the BR on this map is just a joke. And the red team always has a generous amount of help due to the reddish hues of Complex.

Not to mention it gets voted for CONSTANTLY.

My question is, do you feel the same?

Yeah that map sucks at the best of times but for swat it just plain fails

Every time I look for a game of SWAT I’m always joining a game that’s in progress on this map, so I switch my network connections and prevent myself from joining EVERY TIME.

TAKE THAT 343!

Complex is just a bad map in general. Too big for small game types, too small for BTB.

not to mention a very unbalanced CTF map

Actually I think complex plays just fine for 5v5 CTF. Anything else just doesn’t seem to work quite right on it.

> not to mention a very unbalanced CTF map

Yeah I feel the same bout that. Usually CTF maps are very linear, or are broken down into sections. Complex is a big mess in that case… lol

I haven’t played a game on Complex in ages, feels sooooo good. The worst gametype for this map is Regicide. Seriously??? I’m not going to spend my time looking for 5 other guys all over this map. BTW I got a perfection on Complex in SWAT, as Blue team, with just the Magnum lol(I was going for the Mag commendation).

The reason why CTF is unbalanced on this map is clearly because of the Base/map layout. You get a cleaner get away with the flag when you spawn in the back of complex, with more cover.

Rather than the front of complex, which has a wide open field where the flag is kept.

These things really make a stupid difference.

Bad, oversized map is just bad, oversized map. I don’t know how anyone could approved it for any 4v4 gametype. I can only guess that with Team Snipers it could somehow work, but with so many buildings I’m not sure.

Yeah, it’s the only map I get rocked on in SWAT.

I don’t understand why they are putting Exile in CTF and not putting Complex in BTB, the map is seems more suited to BTb than Regicide.

>voted to be worst map by the community
>still gets voted for when adrift or haven are not in the selection

Anything on Complex is a disaster. I usually just feed the other team kills whenever the map comes up so it can just be over and done with.

Honestly, I don’t mind this map (I won’t vote for it thru). I think 343i’s original plan for this was a map built for long range combat with DMRs and LRs. So it’s pretty obvious that the DMR lovers will vote so much for this map. However I feel like having this map pop up in matchmaking every now and then is like a breath of fresh air from the CQC battles of maps like Haven (my fav).

It’s just my opinion of course.

> And the red team always has a generous amount of help due to the reddish hues of Complex.

The red team has a generous advantage because the blue spawns on that map are awful. Perch 2-3 guys on big roof, and have them survey blue’s whole side - half the time, the blue guys will spawn in the open within the reds’ line of sight, or in a position whereby they have to move into the open to move at all. It’s a spawn trap created by terrible spawns rather than intelligent player positioning and knowledge of map spawns.

I don’t play SWAT, but I can only imagine this issue is exacerbated due to the ability to OHK. In Slayer or CTF, any half-decent red team should win (despite the imbalanced nature of Complex’s CTF), as the blue team will be unable to move (outside of Scattershot/P2 spawns, and those can also be seen from big roof).

Learn to camo on the roof in the middle and just pick people off below with the DMR. Then you will enjoy it

at first, i didn’t like it too. but with the time i got used to it
& how to play on it. you just have to stay in covers & always have an
eye for the roof where everyones camping. so easy to kill them there haha.
now i liked it. i got a few months ago my very first running riot there.
ha, good times.

I love Complex SWAT! SWAT and Regicide are the only game types I love on Complex. CTF is fun too, but obviously quite difficult. Flood is amazing too.

I’m generally not fond of this map in matchmaking, but its dreadful for SWAT. The game moves at a snail pace.