So hey guys, this is my first forum post. Something’s been bugging me about Halo 5 and that is the maps. A big problem with some of them is that they feel way too similar or have similar geometry.
Eden and Empire.
Overgrowth and Plaza.
Regret, Truth
Riptide and Fathom
(Edit) Coliseum, Tyrant
(Edit) Torque, Stasis
Those are the ones that I’ve noticed. Especially Eden and Empire. The rest either are unique or I haven’t noticed the similarities. Like looking through the Halo 5 wiki, I see a lot of “re-imagining of x” or “remix of x”. That’d be fine if they were re-imagining something from a different game because at least we’d have map variety in the gameplay, but we have so many similar maps in Halo 5 and it bugs me. We need more variety in our maps, the previous Halo games did that pretty well even before DLC. Like in Slayer on Arena, it feels like the same maps most of the time.
We need more unique map layouts, less re-imaginings and remixes. Especially in the Arena mode.
For the first post this is a very outdated issue
I do see what you mean. Eden and empire is kinda ridiculous. I understand that they are very different maps when it comes to gameplay but it still almost looks the same.
Most of the maps in arena are very similar
For more variety try looking towards BTB
There’s alot of good community made maps TBH
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> For the first post this is a very outdated issue
Sorry if it is such an outdated issue, I just started playing a few days ago and this is something that is bugging me, and why has nothing been done about it? I feel 343 needs to start making more unique maps and/or at the very least add new forge maps to the matchmaking.
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> Most of the maps in arena are very similar
> For more variety try looking towards BTB
> There’s alot of good community made maps TBH
I agree, there are a lot of great community maps. I’d love to see some on Arena.
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> I do see what you mean. Eden and empire is kinda ridiculous. I understand that they are very different maps when it comes to gameplay but it still almost looks the same.
Eden and Empire actually pisses me off. The rest bug me but this one is just too ridiculous. The gameplay doesn’t feel too different, at least not in the experience I’ve had.
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> Sorry if it is such an outdated issue, I just started playing a few days ago and this is something that is bugging me, and why has nothing been done about it? I feel 343 needs to start making more unique maps and/or at the very least add new forge maps to the matchmaking.
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> I agree, there are a lot of great community maps. I’d love to see some on Arena.
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> > I do see what you mean. Eden and empire is kinda ridiculous. I understand that they are very different maps when it comes to gameplay but it still almost looks the same.
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> Eden and Empire actually pisses me off. The rest bug me but this one is just too ridiculous. The gameplay doesn’t feel too different, at least not in the experience I’ve had.
All the similarities? Intentional. 343 made remix maps, which pisses us off. Eden is a remix of Empire, Regret is a remix of Truth (though Truth was released later), Overgrowth is a remix of Plaza, Riptide a remix of Fathom, Tyrant a Remix of Colliseum, and the new Stasis? A remix of Torque. It’s bull -Yoink-. We’ve been asking for original maps since the first drop and they haven’t done that. My guess is they do not have the resources to scrap all of the maps they were planning on releasing and start over, so they are releasing them anyway, even though none of the remixed maps are good enough for HCS play, besides Eden (Truth may have come out later, but Regret was the remix).
either 343 are being rushed to do new maps OR are being lazy and just like “screw it, lets just move things about they wont know, right?”
maybe they can actually make forge maps PROPER maps perhaps?
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> All the similarities? Intentional. 343 made remix maps, which pisses us off. Eden is a remix of Empire, Regret is a remix of Truth (though Truth was released later), Overgrowth is a remix of Plaza, Riptide a remix of Fathom, Tyrant a Remix of Colliseum, and the new Stasis? A remix of Torque. It’s bull -Yoink-. We’ve been asking for original maps since the first drop and they haven’t done that. My guess is they do not have the resources to scrap all of the maps they were planning on releasing and start over, so they are releasing them anyway, even though none of the remixed maps are good enough for HCS play, besides Eden (Truth may have come out later, but Regret was the remix).
Yeah, i could tell they were all intentional. I’m also pissed off. At first I was a bit irritated but thinking about it more makes me mad. Halo 5 has a lot of potential but the maps are dragging it down. I’m also really sad to hear that Stasis is a remix of Torque, as I actually like Torque a lot. But are we being heard? Are they ignoring us or just not seeing it? That’s the question I have. We need to bring this more to their attention either way. I have no idea how though so… :/.
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> either 343 are being rushed to do new maps OR are being lazy and just like “screw it, lets just move things about they wont know, right?”
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> maybe they can actually make forge maps PROPER maps perhaps?
I hope to god it isn’t the latter… but it probably is. -Yoink-.
I see what you are saying and agree… however I do not see the similarities between Truth/Regret and Coliseum. Coliseum is nothing like them.
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> I see what you are saying and agree… however I do not see the similarities between Truth/Regret and Coliseum. Coliseum is nothing like them.
It isn’t exactly copy and paste and the gameplay might be a bit different but… it has that same kind of base layout y’know? The four corners and a bridge in a middle. Still definitely not different enough to justify being a different map.
Here are all of the remixes so far:
Truth and regret
Eden and empire
plaza and overgrowth
Fathom and riptide
In the next update, torque is getting a remix called stasis.
Yeah, we’ve been complaining about this since Day 1. They promised us 20+ maps at launch and we got cheated.
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> I see what you are saying and agree… however I do not see the similarities between Truth/Regret and Coliseum. Coliseum is nothing like them.
Well Coliseum isn’t related to them, Tyrant is the remix of Coliseum, that in a bit.
now imagine you are in blue base on truth (just run with me here). now imagine that top mid has a wall on each side facing the bases. now imagine a ramp from the front of each base going to top mid. Take out the little dome at bottom mid and make it a big dome. Remove the left at C1 and the invis at P1. Now make Truth outside. Bam, Regret.
Tyrant was done a bit better to remove similarities, but they are there. imagine the lift on Tyrant is where Sniper should spawn, and the current Sniper spawn is where Scattershot should spawn, then it begins to unfold a little.
Yea nothing new around here. Been complaining about that for a while.
It’s called being cheap and 343i should be called out for this type of behavior.
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> Yea nothing new around here. Been complaining about that for a while.
Yes, that is the sad part. We are still complaining about this