DISAPPOINTED!! RTS PRO FEEDBACK

Right heres a list or reasons as to why HW2 is a bad RTS!

  • First of all, THIS GAME IS SO NOOB FRIENDLY its like welcoming all the halo fans that have no idea about RTS with open arms! There is nothing to this game all you gotta do is spam a load of st and tech up. There is no micro-management at all!! Which is a core element in RTS. To say HW2 is the latest RTS to date i am very disappointed! I was hoping for much more than just spamming a counter to my opponents spam! - Ok so we have seen 2 factions so far, now these factions only have about 13 units each which is nothing considering they have hardly any upgrades and the units dont do a lot either i mean you can press Y every now and then thats about it. I hope the other factions have entirely new units not just sub factions like the last one. - This game is so boring!! In an RTS you should be on the edge of your seat with your eyes stinging cause you forgot to blink due to how much st is going on but for the most part of HW2 im sitting back bored out my brains upgrading supply pads. AWESOME.
  • Well seen as theres not a lot going on in this game there isn’t much i can say. Just hope you take notes as HW2 is heading to be a lame RTS. Surely you wanna strive to be the best RTS out there right? So think about it, take notes, make the changes!!Yours Mythic Micro.

This game is set up pretty similar to the first one. There are plenty of other RTSs out there that require the micro managing that you want. Go play one of those.

Interesting, prod

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> Right heres a list or reasons as to why HW2 is a bad RTS!
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> - First of all, THIS GAME IS SO NOOB FRIENDLY its like welcoming all the halo fans that have no idea about RTS with open arms! There is nothing to this game all you gotta do is spam a load of st and tech up. There is no micro-management at all!! Which is a core element in RTS. To say HW2 is the latest RTS to date i am very disappointed! I was hoping for much more than just spamming a counter to my opponents spam!
> - Ok so we have seen 2 factions so far, now these factions only have about 13 units each which is nothing considering they have hardly any upgrades and the units dont do a lot either i mean you can press Y every now and then thats about it. I hope the other factions have entirely new units not just sub factions like the last one.
> - This game is so boring!! In an RTS you should be on the edge of your seat with your eyes stinging cause you forgot to blink due to how much s
t is going on but for the most part of HW2 im sitting back bored out my brains upgrading supply pads. AWESOME.
>
> - Well seen as theres not a lot going on in this game there isn’t much i can say. Just hope you take notes as HW2 is heading to be a lame RTS. Surely you wanna strive to be the best RTS out there right? So think about it, take notes, make the changes!!
> Yours Mythic Micro.

Pro RTSer playing on console? Sounds strange. You aren’t gonna get great micro on a console unless it comes with a mouse and keyboard. Not sure why that’s a surprise.

Bruh. The original Halo Wars was so successful because it was so simple.

ARCHAIC youd be surprised what you can do with a controller my friend. I used to play c&c ra3 & sup com 2 which were both great and in my opinion better than HWs & and unfortunately better than this 1 also. Hope a true RTS comes to console soon!

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> Right heres a list or reasons as to why HW2 is a bad RTS!
>
>
> - First of all, THIS GAME IS SO NOOB FRIENDLY its like welcoming all the halo fans that have no idea about RTS with open arms! There is nothing to this game all you gotta do is spam a load of st and tech up. There is no micro-management at all!! Which is a core element in RTS. To say HW2 is the latest RTS to date i am very disappointed! I was hoping for much more than just spamming a counter to my opponents spam!
> - Ok so we have seen 2 factions so far, now these factions only have about 13 units each which is nothing considering they have hardly any upgrades and the units dont do a lot either i mean you can press Y every now and then thats about it. I hope the other factions have entirely new units not just sub factions like the last one.
> - This game is so boring!! In an RTS you should be on the edge of your seat with your eyes stinging cause you forgot to blink due to how much s
t is going on but for the most part of HW2 im sitting back bored out my brains upgrading supply pads. AWESOME.
>
> - Well seen as theres not a lot going on in this game there isn’t much i can say. Just hope you take notes as HW2 is heading to be a lame RTS. Surely you wanna strive to be the best RTS out there right? So think about it, take notes, make the changes!!
> Yours Mythic Micro.

I would agree to some extent. I think the combat is slightly basic, although I enjoy the tactical element of fighting over points and nodes on the map. Maybe more complex move orders such as aggressive and hold position stances and being able to stack move orders. I agree the Y abilities are pretty lame and don’t seem to do anything in addition to combat groups not working as of yet.

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> ARCHAIC youd be surprised what you can do with a controller my friend. I used to play c&c ra3 & sup com 2 which were both great and in my opinion better than HWs & and unfortunately better than this 1 also. Hope a true RTS comes to console soon!

If you are looking for micro, I suggest PC. Not saying its not passable, but be realistic, way better on PC so if thats what you are truly looking for you know where to find it. Also, know that this game is clearly a legit beta, not a demo like so many betas out there. Controls are clearly not there yet, so it will get better.

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> Right heres a list or reasons as to why HW2 is a bad RTS!
>
>
> - First of all, THIS GAME IS SO NOOB FRIENDLY its like welcoming all the halo fans that have no idea about RTS with open arms! There is nothing to this game all you gotta do is spam a load of st and tech up. There is no micro-management at all!! Which is a core element in RTS. To say HW2 is the latest RTS to date i am very disappointed! I was hoping for much more than just spamming a counter to my opponents spam!
> - Ok so we have seen 2 factions so far, now these factions only have about 13 units each which is nothing considering they have hardly any upgrades and the units dont do a lot either i mean you can press Y every now and then thats about it. I hope the other factions have entirely new units not just sub factions like the last one.
> - This game is so boring!! In an RTS you should be on the edge of your seat with your eyes stinging cause you forgot to blink due to how much s
t is going on but for the most part of HW2 im sitting back bored out my brains upgrading supply pads. AWESOME.
>
> - Well seen as theres not a lot going on in this game there isn’t much i can say. Just hope you take notes as HW2 is heading to be a lame RTS. Surely you wanna strive to be the best RTS out there right? So think about it, take notes, make the changes!!
> Yours Mythic Micro.

As an RTS gamer i can agree to some extent. Halo Wars 2 is definitely much more complex than the first one. Being able to break the Rock, paper, scissor rule does actually exist in HW 2 compared to HW 1 where it didn’t and I’m not gonna say that one single unit (Wolverine) in HW 1 makes it exist in that game. Being able to break the rules is a MUST HAVE in every RTS game.

It is a beta and an early one. There are so many months until release so i will hold my legit RTS gamer judgement until then. The only thing i can say now is that HW 2 is basically a HW 1.2 or 1.5, however you want to call it and there is A LOT of improvements needing to be done and i expect it all to be made. I think HW 2 is fun. I have played almost 20 matches and i have not lost a single one and i have 1v2 more than half of my matches but that’s just because i am an RTS gamer afterall and HW 2 still being very simple makes it easy to crush people with ease. I am glad that one unit single spam does not exist in HW 2. I have seen people spam marines and Vultures and been completely crushed by my mix of units. That is how HW 1 should have been like.

Again. Lots of improvements needs to be made and i will not type them here. I will share them in a different thread made for feedback in a serious manner. This threads title makes people take this thread a tad less seriously and that is my little reason for not mentioning them here.

Rock paper scissors was broken lots of times in Wars 1.

I totally agree that this game doesn’t take much skill. I’m just tearing up games without any effort. Wars 1 had good micro, it’s missing here.

It had passable micro. I would never call it good. It took a great amount of skill to be able to micro effectively. I’m not sure why everyone is complaining about the micro in the game, I haven’t really noticed a huge difference tbh, can someone explain in a bit more detail what they think is different for micro-ing?

I agree to a pont, micro managing units is minimal, but it’s still present. Focusing down the most threatening units in an encounter is important, so constant target swapping is a must. That’s the key differeceived thay separate smart players from those thay just spam attack move.

You can also kite with ranged units if you’re good enough. Snipers, warthog that can attack on the move etc are great for this.

You do realize that this is a BETA right? Or do you have no idea how that works? It isn’t supposed to be perfect and it isn’t even close to the full game. The whole purpose is to catch bugs and to get gameplay feedback. You’re talking about it like it’s the final version of the game, which is totally foolish because it isn’t.

Hahaha. Mythic, my clan mate just 1v2’d two of your clan mates! Mythic Atlas and Mythic Eclipse. So I mean, there must be some micro involved, maybe your clan just hasn’t figured it out yet haha.

I disagree. In fact the micro you need to do for the first 2-4 minutes is absolutely mind boggling compared to hw1. Grabbing the power feeds, commander powers, free bases, mini bases, supplies, spreading units out. It’s ridiculous. I feel stressed until the 4 minute mark because there is so much to do.

Mythic is a good Command and Conquer player. Had many quality games with him on Kanes Wrath. That’s the game that I compare all console RTS games to. While this beta isn’t yet on par with Kanes wrath, I think it’s made some improvements from the original Halo Wars. I’m optimistic that with months of development still to go that the game is going to end up being a quality game and a must have in my collection.