Difference in Lore progression: Bungie to 343i

I’m still new to the Halo universe so sorry if this has been answered before, but has there ever been any interviews or articles about Bungie’s planned lore progression in to the future of the Halo universe and if so did 343i use these notes when developing 4 and 5? or was 343i given the reigns completely wholesale and told to move the story forward?

if your confused what I mean by the question, here is a good example: Sony’s God of War was concieved by David Jaffe. his ultimate goal in the series was to answer the question, “what happened to all the old gods of yore?”. When God of War 2 was started, Cory Balrog took over as the head of the project and he made changes to the progression David Jaffe had previously planned out which changed the direction of the series. Then Stig Asmussen did the same thing again on God of War 3. The final chapter in the progression was much different than David Jaffe had originally conceived.

love to hear your thoughts on where you think this would have gone different if Bungie continued the series as well.

All we need yo know is in the Halo Bible.

Well Bungie had intended for Humans to be actual living forerunners, when Halo was activated the forerunners were reseeded back to their home planet… Earth. As as part of their grand design they reduced themselves with no knowledge of themselves on their homeplanet so that they would become something new: Human. Of course this made the mythos of Halo more closed as the story after Halo 3 keads to Humanity reclaiming their lost history as kings of the galaxy. And the flood were simply extragalatic foes who had consumed an entire galaxay before reaching ours. Also the didact and librarian were simply forerunner(human) commanders who lasted until the very end, and precursors are ancient beings very briefly mentioned in Halo 3.

With 343I Forerunners were made to be their own species and Humans just the most worthy successor to the forerunners as the Librarian saw it, in a nutshell anyway. This opened up alot of the story for more expansion as Humans weren’t simply the destined kings of the galaxy but rather the successors to be in the galaxy that still needed to be tested by the Precursors and flood, both one and the same. Its too much for me to explain in the time i have so just go to halopedia and their your answers lie.

Bungie seemed like it wanted to wrap up the invasion story in h2. Most of halo 3’s plot was stretching out h2’s cut ending. Halo was never as planned out as some people would lead you to believe.

That said, Reach was originally planned as h4, but they decided to do Reach to capstone their work on the series. What little we know of it seemed to suggest forerunners were involved.

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> Well Bungie had intended for Humans to be actual living forerunners, when Halo was activated the forerunners were reseeded back to their home planet… Earth. As as part of their grand design they reduced themselves with no knowledge of themselves on their homeplanet so that they would become something new: Human. Of course this made the mythos of Halo more closed as the story after Halo 3 keads to Humanity reclaiming their lost history as kings of the galaxy. And the flood were simply extragalatic foes who had consumed an entire galaxay before reaching ours. Also the didact and librarian were simply forerunner(human) commanders who lasted until the very end, and precursors are ancient beings very briefly mentioned in Halo 3.
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> With 343I Forerunners were made to be their own species and Humans just the most worthy successor to the forerunners as the Librarian saw it, in a nutshell anyway. This opened up alot of the story for more expansion as Humans weren’t simply the destined kings of the galaxy but rather the successors to be in the galaxy that still needed to be tested by the Precursors and flood, both one and the same. Its too much for me to explain in the time i have so just go to halopedia and their your answers lie.

Its actually sort of questionable what Bungie’s direction with humans/forerunners was in h3. While the main game supports it, the terminals point it more towards humans already being cavemen on earth during the time of the firing. Even if they were the same species at the time, they’d clearly been seperated for ages without knowing they were there.

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> > Well Bungie had intended for Humans to be actual living forerunners, when Halo was activated the forerunners were reseeded back to their home planet… Earth. As as part of their grand design they reduced themselves with no knowledge of themselves on their homeplanet so that they would become something new: Human. Of course this made the mythos of Halo more closed as the story after Halo 3 keads to Humanity reclaiming their lost history as kings of the galaxy. And the flood were simply extragalatic foes who had consumed an entire galaxay before reaching ours. Also the didact and librarian were simply forerunner(human) commanders who lasted until the very end, and precursors are ancient beings very briefly mentioned in Halo 3.
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> > With 343I Forerunners were made to be their own species and Humans just the most worthy successor to the forerunners as the Librarian saw it, in a nutshell anyway. This opened up alot of the story for more expansion as Humans weren’t simply the destined kings of the galaxy but rather the successors to be in the galaxy that still needed to be tested by the Precursors and flood, both one and the same. Its too much for me to explain in the time i have so just go to halopedia and their your answers lie.
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> Its actually sort of questionable what Bungie’s direction with humans/forerunners was in h3. While the main game supports it, the terminals point it more towards humans already being cavemen on earth during the time of the firing. Even if they were the same species at the time, they’d clearly been seperated for ages without knowing they were there.

Bungie wanted to get rid of Halo lol, they saw the fact they them making Halo forever would suck so they jumped ship and ended up becoming something of a joke BUT i digress. Anyway that is true, Bungie almost never including the EU of Halo into their games.

Also i remember a scene in the Halo 3 terminals where the Librarian said that when she discovered us we were to similar to be coincidence. We were the last to be indexed and she gave us the reclaimer status to all of forerunner technology. The piece of evidence that directly points to us as forerunners in the games is when 343 Guilty Spark said to Chief “You ARE forerunner”. Its an arguable point given his condition but it nonetheless fits everything else.

When 343 Industries was originally formed, it was literally just five Bungie employees that wanted to keep working with Halo. The Halo Story Bible is still a thing, and the story is moving forward naturally to answer questions posed by the very first game, namely what it means to be a Reclaimer.

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> Well Bungie had intended for Humans to be actual living forerunners, when Halo was activated the forerunners were reseeded back to their home planet… Earth. As as part of their grand design they reduced themselves with no knowledge of themselves on their homeplanet so that they would become something new: Human. Of course this made the mythos of Halo more closed as the story after Halo 3 keads to Humanity reclaiming their lost history as kings of the galaxy. And the flood were simply extragalatic foes who had consumed an entire galaxay before reaching ours. Also the didact and librarian were simply forerunner(human) commanders who lasted until the very end, and precursors are ancient beings very briefly mentioned in Halo 3.
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> With 343I Forerunners were made to be their own species and Humans just the most worthy successor to the forerunners as the Librarian saw it, in a nutshell anyway. This opened up alot of the story for more expansion as Humans weren’t simply the destined kings of the galaxy but rather the successors to be in the galaxy that still needed to be tested by the Precursors and flood, both one and the same. Its too much for me to explain in the time i have so just go to halopedia and their your answers lie.

This isn’t actually true. Bungie originally intended for humans and Forerunners to be one and the same, but that changed during the development of Halo 3, as evidenced by interviews with Bungie employees, Halo 3’s terminals, and The Cradle of Life.