Look at his fingers. Bornstellar had 6 FINGERS. The Ur-Didact had only 5. The Didact in the trailer had 6 fingers. ITS BORNSTELLAR.
Pretty nice find if that’s true. I’m not a Canon fanatic so this would never have caught my eye.
what exactly did you want me to tell you? i missed that part
That’s awesome, I knew there was a reason why he had six fingers.
Cool, I liked Bornstellar and his eventual transformation into the Didact. Interesting stuff.
> what exactly did you want me to tell you? i missed that part
That the Didact in the Gameplay trailer is BornStellar Makes Eternal Lasting
It is never said how many fingers the Ur-Didact had. However, it is said that Bornstellar, by the time he rescued Chakas and Riser, looked exactly like the Didact. It’s very likely the Ur-Didact had 6 fingers, too.
Yeah, I noticed that as well, I just wanted to get a closer look at him and then suddenly I noticed he had six fingers.
It was never said how many fingers Ur-Didact had. Also Thursday War hinted…And BornStellar Didact turned into “Ur-Didact” So they would look the same,So same digits it should be.
> It is never said how many fingers the Ur-Didact had. However, it is said that Bornstellar, by the time he rescued Chakas and Riser, looked exactly like the Didact. It’s very likely the Ur-Didact had 6 fingers, too.
Doubt it,the reason i say this is because it said specifically that the Born-Didact had 6 fingers so why didnt it say the same for the Ur-Didact.
If thats Bornstellar, then 343i really messed up the Forerunner story of this. Silentoum has a lot of explaining to do.
All evidence points at that being the Ur-Didact. Mainly because Bornstellar did not have a grudge against Humanity. Yes, Bornstellar essentially became the Didact, but he was still Bornstellar. The Ur-Didact was the one with hatred towrds Humanity.
And the Ur-Didact was last seen on a Flood-infested planet. If he was infected or injured, they would have put him there. If he was corrupted, he’d be locked in Requiem. Requiem seems to be a prison.
Bornstellar activated the rings, meaning he is likely dead. He wouldn’t have had time to get to the Ark when the Flood attacked the Line. He would have had to do an activation from inside the galaxy, thats one of the only ways. Unless he was never at the battle.
But even if thats true, why would he be locked in a Cryptum? Bornstellar wasn’t corrupt or infected. Sure, he could have put himself in there, but why would Requiem appear to be a prison and have a ton of Forerunner warnings saying that he shouldn’t be awoken? That says corrupted Forerunner locked away more than a Forerunner who wants to take a nap. He would have gone through a lot of precaution to make sure he “dissapears”. And why would he do that when it is said that any surviving Forerunners simply left the galaxy?
> > It is never said how many fingers the Ur-Didact had. However, it is said that Bornstellar, by the time he rescued Chakas and Riser, looked exactly like the Didact. It’s very likely the Ur-Didact had 6 fingers, too.
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> Doubt it,the reason i say this is because it said specifically that the Born-Didact had 6 fingers so why didnt it say the same for the Ur-Didact.
The books never gave a description about the Ur-Didact. Again, by the time Born rescued Chakas and Riser on Installation 07, he was said to have looked excactly like the Didact, fingers and all.
I personally think there is reason to suspect this Didact to be Bornstellar, but the 6 fingers is not strong evidence.
its ur-didact
> > It is never said how many fingers the Ur-Didact had. However, it is said that Bornstellar, by the time he rescued Chakas and Riser, looked exactly like the Didact. It’s very likely the Ur-Didact had 6 fingers, too.
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> Doubt it,the reason i say this is because it said specifically that the Born-Didact had 6 fingers so why didnt it say the same for the Ur-Didact.
…because it is a trivial detail? It seems like all Forerunners had six fingers. Do you remember in H2 where you had to deactivate the wall? The hand scanner had 6 fingers. Presumably, this was for any type of Forerunner…
> > It is never said how many fingers the Ur-Didact had. However, it is said that Bornstellar, by the time he rescued Chakas and Riser, looked exactly like the Didact. It’s very likely the Ur-Didact had 6 fingers, too.
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> Doubt it,the reason i say this is because it said specifically that the Born-Didact had 6 fingers so why didnt it say the same for the Ur-Didact.
Because it didnt. Since they are both Forerunner one could think that they have 6 digits.
> If thats Bornstellar, then 343i really messed up the Forerunner story of this. Silentoum has a lot of explaining to do.
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> All evidence points at that being the Ur-Didact. Mainly because Bornstellar did not have a grudge against Humanity. Yes, Bornstellar essentially became the Didact, but he was still Bornstellar. The Ur-Didact was the one with hatred towrds Humanity.
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> And the Ur-Didact was last seen on a Flood-infested planet. If he was infected or injured, they would have put him there. If he was corrupted, he’d be locked in Requiem. Requiem seems to be a prison.
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> Bornstellar activated the rings, meaning he is likely dead. He wouldn’t have had time to get to the Ark when the Flood attacked the Line. He would have had to do an activation from inside the galaxy, thats one of the only ways. Unles she was never at the battle.
> But even if thats true, why would he be locked in a Cryptum? Bornstellar wasn’t corrupt or infected. Sure, he could have put himself in there, but why would Requiem appear to be a prison and have a ton of Forerunner warnings saying that he shouldn’t be awoken? That says corrupted Forerunner locked away more than a Forerunner who wants to take a nap. He would have gone through a lot of precaution to make sure he “dissapears”. And why would he do that when it is said that any surviving Forerunners simply left the galaxy?
Dude the Ur-Didacts mind took over Bornstellar. So BornStellar isnt himself anymore. Its basically the Ur-Didacts mind in his body that turned into the Ur-Didact himself. So it is both Ur-Didact and Bornstellar, just with the Ur-Didacts personality and looks.
> > If thats Bornstellar, then 343i really messed up the Forerunner story of this. Silentoum has a lot of explaining to do.
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> > All evidence points at that being the Ur-Didact. Mainly because Bornstellar did not have a grudge against Humanity. Yes, Bornstellar essentially became the Didact, but he was still Bornstellar. The Ur-Didact was the one with hatred towrds Humanity.
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> > And the Ur-Didact was last seen on a Flood-infested planet. If he was infected or injured, they would have put him there. If he was corrupted, he’d be locked in Requiem. Requiem seems to be a prison.
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> > Bornstellar activated the rings, meaning he is likely dead. He wouldn’t have had time to get to the Ark when the Flood attacked the Line. He would have had to do an activation from inside the galaxy, thats one of the only ways. Unles she was never at the battle.
> > But even if thats true, why would he be locked in a Cryptum? Bornstellar wasn’t corrupt or infected. Sure, he could have put himself in there, but why would Requiem appear to be a prison and have a ton of Forerunner warnings saying that he shouldn’t be awoken? That says corrupted Forerunner locked away more than a Forerunner who wants to take a nap. He would have gone through a lot of precaution to make sure he “dissapears”. And why would he do that when it is said that any surviving Forerunners simply left the galaxy?
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> Dude the Ur-Didacts mind took over Bornstellar. So BornStellar isnt himself anymore. Its basically the Ur-Didacts mind in his body that turned into the Ur-Didact himself. So it is both Ur-Didact and Bornstellar, just with the Ur-Didacts personality and looks.
All right, but what about all the other evidence?
Why was he locked in a Cryptum, further locked on Requiem, which is covered with warnings that he can not be awoken? Thats a lot of precaution if Bornstellar just wanted time to think. The fact that the Ur-Didact was last known to be actually exposed to the Flood and knows the most about the Precursor threat corruption makes it more likely that he was locked in Requiem, not Bornstellar.
but why are the displaying the “unbound” Didact symbol everywhere?
> but why are the displaying the “unbound” Didact symbol everywhere?
We have yet to find out.
But that doesn’t really help the Bornstellar or Didact argument, since they technically would share the symbol.
> > > If thats Bornstellar, then 343i really messed up the Forerunner story of this. Silentoum has a lot of explaining to do.
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> > > All evidence points at that being the Ur-Didact. Mainly because Bornstellar did not have a grudge against Humanity. Yes, Bornstellar essentially became the Didact, but he was still Bornstellar. The Ur-Didact was the one with hatred towrds Humanity.
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> > > And the Ur-Didact was last seen on a Flood-infested planet. If he was infected or injured, they would have put him there. If he was corrupted, he’d be locked in Requiem. Requiem seems to be a prison.
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> > > Bornstellar activated the rings, meaning he is likely dead. He wouldn’t have had time to get to the Ark when the Flood attacked the Line. He would have had to do an activation from inside the galaxy, thats one of the only ways. Unles she was never at the battle.
> > > But even if thats true, why would he be locked in a Cryptum? Bornstellar wasn’t corrupt or infected. Sure, he could have put himself in there, but why would Requiem appear to be a prison and have a ton of Forerunner warnings saying that he shouldn’t be awoken? That says corrupted Forerunner locked away more than a Forerunner who wants to take a nap. He would have gone through a lot of precaution to make sure he “dissapears”. And why would he do that when it is said that any surviving Forerunners simply left the galaxy?
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> > Dude the Ur-Didacts mind took over Bornstellar. So BornStellar isnt himself anymore. Its basically the Ur-Didacts mind in his body that turned into the Ur-Didact himself. So it is both Ur-Didact and Bornstellar, just with the Ur-Didacts personality and looks.
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> All right, but what about all the other evidence?
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> Why was he locked in a Cryptum, further locked on Requiem, which is covered with warnings that he can not be awoken? Thats a lot of precaution if Bornstellar just wanted time to think. The fact that the Ur-Didact was last known to be actually exposed to the Flood and knows the most about the Precursor threat corruption makes it more likely that he was locked in Requiem, not Bornstellar.
If the Ur-Didact was exposed to the Flood then i don’t think that making him sleep in a Cryptum would help. Ur-Didact-Gravemind maybe?
> > > > If thats Bornstellar, then 343i really messed up the Forerunner story of this. Silentoum has a lot of explaining to do.
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> > > > All evidence points at that being the Ur-Didact. Mainly because Bornstellar did not have a grudge against Humanity. Yes, Bornstellar essentially became the Didact, but he was still Bornstellar. The Ur-Didact was the one with hatred towrds Humanity.
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> > > > And the Ur-Didact was last seen on a Flood-infested planet. If he was infected or injured, they would have put him there. If he was corrupted, he’d be locked in Requiem. Requiem seems to be a prison.
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> > > > Bornstellar activated the rings, meaning he is likely dead. He wouldn’t have had time to get to the Ark when the Flood attacked the Line. He would have had to do an activation from inside the galaxy, thats one of the only ways. Unles she was never at the battle.
> > > > But even if thats true, why would he be locked in a Cryptum? Bornstellar wasn’t corrupt or infected. Sure, he could have put himself in there, but why would Requiem appear to be a prison and have a ton of Forerunner warnings saying that he shouldn’t be awoken? That says corrupted Forerunner locked away more than a Forerunner who wants to take a nap. He would have gone through a lot of precaution to make sure he “dissapears”. And why would he do that when it is said that any surviving Forerunners simply left the galaxy?
> > >
> > > Dude the Ur-Didacts mind took over Bornstellar. So BornStellar isnt himself anymore. Its basically the Ur-Didacts mind in his body that turned into the Ur-Didact himself. So it is both Ur-Didact and Bornstellar, just with the Ur-Didacts personality and looks.
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> > All right, but what about all the other evidence?
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> > Why was he locked in a Cryptum, further locked on Requiem, which is covered with warnings that he can not be awoken? Thats a lot of precaution if Bornstellar just wanted time to think. The fact that the Ur-Didact was last known to be actually exposed to the Flood and knows the most about the Precursor threat corruption makes it more likely that he was locked in Requiem, not Bornstellar.
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> If the Ur-Didact was exposed to the Flood then i don’t think that making him sleep in a Cryptum would help. Ur-Didact-Gravemind maybe?
Locking him away wasn’t supposed to help him. It was supposed to keep him from committing a terrible act of some kind.
The Didact in Halo 4 could be either Bornstellar or the Original, but the original has more reason to hate humanity. Bornstellar may become the Didact, but Primordium clearly shows that he thinks of Chakas and Riser as friends, and holds no hatred toward Humanity.