Didact idea.

Games Halo 5: Guardians
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So everyone can agree that the Didact is still alive. If you watch the terminals and read the novels you will read his armor will not allow him to be composed (Just like the Cheif). But at the end of Halo 4 the Didact is speaking and it almost sounds like he’s making a speach to a crowd of Forerunners. Go back and listen to it. Could he have teleported back to the domain or the main Forerunner city and there are forerunners who are still alive? And he’s been detained because He used the composer without authorization and also in the novels they wanted to arrest him? What if he’s trying to gather support from the Forerunners to attack the humans…I mean at he says “WE are hopeless to stop it” Note he says “WE”.

Well that’s just speculation. post what you think!

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IIRC, I read somewhere that the epilogue at the end of Halo 4 is made up of excerpts from the Didact’s speech to the Forerunner council at his trial after the Human-Forerunner war many millennia ago, before the Halo array was first fired.

While I agree that the Didact survived, I don’t believe that there is an entire city of Forerunners that have survived unnoticed for all this time. It would just be too convenient of a plot twist for 343 to build upon (although after reading the ending to Halo: Primordium, there is still a slight chance that the Librarian is still alive, with the 343 Guilty Spark clone hijacking a UNSC ship to find her).

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> IIRC, I read somewhere that the epilogue at the end of Halo 4 is made up of excerpts from the Didact’s speech to the Forerunner council at his trial after the Human-Forerunner war many millennia ago, before the Halo array was first fired.

The Ur-Didact was never put on trial.

The Epilogue speech only makes sense in a post-H4 context, it makes absolutely no sense in any other context.

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> IIRC, I read somewhere that the epilogue at the end of Halo 4 is made up of excerpts from the Didact’s speech to the Forerunner council at his trial after the Human-Forerunner war many millennia ago, before the Halo array was first fired.
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> While I agree that the Didact survived, I don’t believe that there is an entire city of Forerunners that have survived unnoticed for all this time. It would just be too convenient of a plot twist for 343 to build upon (although after reading the ending to Halo: Primordium, there is still a slight chance that the Librarian is still alive, with the 343 Guilty Spark clone hijacking a UNSC ship to find her).

After Silentium I’m sure The Librarian is dead. The new one however is probably still kicking…there’s also a chance whatever forerunners that somehow survived the Halo Array could have fled to another galaxy…like Path Kethona(not sure if I spelt that right).

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> > IIRC, I read somewhere that the epilogue at the end of Halo 4 is made up of excerpts from the Didact’s speech to the Forerunner council at his trial after the Human-Forerunner war many millennia ago, before the Halo array was first fired.
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> > While I agree that the Didact survived, I don’t believe that there is an entire city of Forerunners that have survived unnoticed for all this time. It would just be too convenient of a plot twist for 343 to build upon (although after reading the ending to Halo: Primordium, there is still a slight chance that the Librarian is still alive, with the 343 Guilty Spark clone hijacking a UNSC ship to find her).
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> After Silentium I’m sure The Librarian is dead. The new one however is probably still kicking…there’s also a chance whatever forerunners that somehow survived the Halo Array could have fled to another galaxy…like Path Kethona(not sure if I spelt that right).

That’s what I’m saying. And during all the trailers and stuff for H4 he’s like “The forerunners have returned” Wouldn’t he know they’re dead?

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> > IIRC, I read somewhere that the epilogue at the end of Halo 4 is made up of excerpts from the Didact’s speech to the Forerunner council at his trial after the Human-Forerunner war many millennia ago, before the Halo array was first fired.
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> > While I agree that the Didact survived, I don’t believe that there is an entire city of Forerunners that have survived unnoticed for all this time. It would just be too convenient of a plot twist for 343 to build upon (although after reading the ending to Halo: Primordium, there is still a slight chance that the Librarian is still alive, with the 343 Guilty Spark clone hijacking a UNSC ship to find her).
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> After Silentium I’m sure The Librarian is dead. The new one however is probably still kicking…there’s also a chance whatever forerunners that somehow survived the Halo Array could have fled to another galaxy…like Path Kethona(not sure if I spelt that right).

Well, Forerunners did survive the Halo Array activation and fled to parts unknown…so anything is possible.

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> So everyone can agree that the Didact is still alive…

No. Please don’t presume that everyone agrees with your idea.

Personally, my gut tells me the Didact is dead. No he can’t be composed, but if falling into the heart of that machine didn’t kill him, whatever he eventually hit would kill him from the fall. Failing that, the nuclear blast that came ten seconds later would have killed him.

The only other options are he’s drifting in space (which he can’t do for long), or ONI has his body which somehow survived the nuke.

> …although after reading the ending to Halo: Primordium, there is still a slight chance that the Librarian is still alive, with the 343 Guilty Spark clone hijacking a UNSC ship to find her).

It’s not a clone, it’s the actual 343 monitor (or Chakas) himself. The last location we know of the Librarian, is on Earth, surrounded by flood being spoken to by remnants of the Lord of Admirals, moments before the array was fired…she’s dead.

> Well, Forerunners did survive the Halo Array activation and fled to parts unknown…so anything is possible.

Indeed. I agree that they more than likely went to Path Kethona, but they would have to restart everything that was there anew.

~ Duck.

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> > So everyone can agree that the Didact is still alive…
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> No. Please don’t presume that everyone agrees with your idea.
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> Personally, my gut tells me the Didact is dead. No he can’t be composed, but if falling into the heart of that machine didn’t kill him, whatever he eventually hit would kill him from the fall. Failing that, the nuclear blast that came ten seconds later would have killed him.
> .

Forerunners have class 12 armours(should survive a nuke), the ‘heart of the machine’ was a slipspace, possibly to transfer the human AIs to a production facility, and the majority if not entirety of the ship(correct me if I’m wrong) is hardlight, which he has demonstrated to be able to alter(no fall dmage.

However considering that the portal he fell into led to a certain place involving knights, I’d say that he wasn’t recovered by ONI nor drifting in space.

Also who commanded the Knights this entire time in SpOps, definitely not only Jul, that is assuming that he can even communicate with them…

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Okay, before I mention any details on the Halo lore, I’d like to as you all a question. After all of the backstory provided in The Forerunner Saga and all of the other allusions made to Didact in other Halo media (e.g. Halo 3 and Kilo 5 trilogy), does it really make sense thematically to kill off the Didact immediately after all of that effort?

Players of the game are hardly even familiar with the character. And who’s going to replace him for the next game? The Flood? Mendicant Bias? Faber? The Didact is almost definitely going to return for that reason.

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> Okay, before I mention any details on the Halo lore, I’d like to as you all a question. After all of the backstory provided in The Forerunner Saga and all of the other allusions made to Didact in other Halo media (e.g. Halo 3 and Kilo 5 trilogy), does it really make sense thematically to kill off the Didact immediately after all of that effort?
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> Players of the game are hardly even familiar with the character. And who’s going to replace him for the next game? The Flood? Mendicant Bias? Faber? The Didact is almost definitely going to return for that reason.

I quite agree. I would like to see the didact return, but not in the immediate sequal. We know there’s going to be at least two more games in the forerunner trilogy and possibly more being a sega so i see no reason to rush in and pursue his storyline. i’d like to see some mystery and questions left unanswered - at least for the immediate future of the franchise.

No doubt that 343 have already decided the story of the game so this really, is irrelevant. :confused:

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343i has said that the Didact was a character that was to be fleshed out and expanded on throughout the Reclaimer Saga. This most definitely means he isn’t going to die in the first game, and in what many may consider an anti-climactic way.

His epilogue speech only makes sense post-Halo 4, and what they’ve released about the Didact says that his fate remains a mystery.

When it is said that the villain’s fate is a mystery… they are alive.

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> Forerunners have class 12 armours(should survive a nuke),

‘Should’ survive a nuke…source please?? If a nuke destroys the ship, it’s more than fair to assume it will destroy a set of personal armour. A combat skin being tougher than a ship’s hull makes no sense.

> the ‘heart of the machine’ was a slipspace portal, possibly to transfer the human AIs to a production facility,

Again, source?? I thought it was simply where the genetic information was digitized and stored. I doubt it was a slipspace portal, since you don’t need one to transfer data (Reference Kilo 5 trilogy).

> and the majority if not entirety of the ship(correct me if I’m wrong) is hardlight, which he has demonstrated to be able to alter(no fall dmage.
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> However considering that the portal he fell into led to a certain place involving knights, I’d say that he wasn’t recovered by ONI nor drifting in space.
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> Also who commanded the Knights this entire time in SpOps, definitely not only Jul, that is assuming that he can even communicate with them…

I’m pretty sure it wasn’t, since you can see it’s metal, not hard light.

Also the Knights defaulting onto Jul after the Didact’s ‘death’ makes sense.

the point people make of killing off a character that could be fleshed out more is a valid one.

…however, there are potentially bigger dangers in/outside this galaxy we are yet to encounter…I personally would rather not have the Didact come back and seeing the state of things at the end of the game and the HX1 trailer, I don’t think he will be. He was fleshed out enough in the books & terminals tbf.

Therefore I stand by what I said;

If the grenade didn’t kill him, or the fall, the nuclear explosion did.

I would rather see the Precursors/ flood come back rather than the Didact. Bornstellar Didact though, I’m happy to see in a game.

~ Duck.

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Cortana said this in the final mission when you arrive to the composer: “Activity! Significant slipspace event building under the Composer”

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> ‘Should’ survive a nuke…source please?? If a nuke destroys the ship, it’s more than fair to assume it will destroy a set of personal armour. A combat skin being tougher than a ship’s hull makes no sense.
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> The nuke only destroyed the Didact’s ship because it set of a chain reaction INSIDE the hull.
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> Again, source?? I thought it was simply where the genetic information was digitized and stored. I doubt it was a slipspace portal, since you don’t need one to transfer data (Reference Kilo 5 trilogy).
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> > Cortana said this in the final mission when you arrive to the composer: “Activity! Significant slipspace event building under the Composer”
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> I’m pretty sure it wasn’t, since you can see it’s metal, not hard light.
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> Hardlight takes more forms than one. That “metal” is hardlight.

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> > So everyone can agree that the Didact is still alive…
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> No. Please don’t presume that everyone agrees with your idea.
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> Personally, my gut tells me the Didact is dead. No he can’t be composed, but if falling into the heart of that machine didn’t kill him, whatever he eventually hit would kill him from the fall. Failing that, the nuclear blast that came ten seconds later would have killed him.
>
> The only other options are he’s drifting in space (which he can’t do for long), or ONI has his body which somehow survived the nuke.

The Didact is alive. It was confirmed during an episode of GameTrailer.TV that he would be a pivotal character throughout the Reclaimer saga, but a main villain only for the first game. In addition, he didn’t fall into the Composer, he fell into a slipspace portal that was sending all the composed Humans to Requiem (as revealed in Spartan Ops).

The Didact is very much alive, and will appear in the next main-entry Halo game.

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> So everyone can agree that the Didact is still alive. If you watch the terminals and read the novels you will read his armor will not allow him to be composed (Just like the Cheif).

Well, it’s his body, not his armor, that is immune to composition. This is why the Librarian had to “advance [the Chief’s] evolution.”

> But at the end of Halo 4 the Didact is speaking and it almost sounds like he’s making a speach to a crowd of Forerunners. Go back and listen to it. Could he have teleported back to the domain or the main Forerunner city and there are forerunners who are still alive? And he’s been detained because He used the composer without authorization and also in the novels they wanted to arrest him? What if he’s trying to gather support from the Forerunners to attack the humans…I mean at he says “WE are hopeless to stop it” Note he says “WE”.
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> Well that’s just speculation. post what you think!

The Domain is gone. Being a Precursor artifact, it was destroyed by the Halo effect when the rings were fired. The Didact would have most likely been sent to Requiem (as that’s were the slipspace portal went), but it’s entirely possible he ended up somewhere else (not unlike John at the end of Halo 3).

As for who he’s talking to, it most certainly could be a crowd of Forerunners, seeing as we know a good number survived. I doubt these Forerunner would be the same ones who survived the firing of the Halo array 100,000 years ago, but it would be cool to meet these descendents.

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> > > So everyone can agree that the Didact is still alive…
> >
> > No. Please don’t presume that everyone agrees with your idea.
> >
> > Personally, my gut tells me the Didact is dead. No he can’t be composed, but if falling into the heart of that machine didn’t kill him, whatever he eventually hit would kill him from the fall. Failing that, the nuclear blast that came ten seconds later would have killed him.
> >
> > The only other options are he’s drifting in space (which he can’t do for long), or ONI has his body which somehow survived the nuke.
>
> The Didact is alive. It was confirmed during an episode of GameTrailer.TV that he would be a pivotal character throughout the Reclaimer saga, but a main villain only for the first game. In addition, he didn’t fall into the Composer, he fell into a slipspace portal that was sending all the composed Humans to Requiem (as revealed in Spartan Ops).
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> The Didact is very much alive, and will appear in the next main-entry Halo game.

Yet he never showed up again? Surely seeing as he was still hell-bent on killing all humans he would have led the Prometheans and Covenant forces when the Infinity returned, rather than supposedly fleeing. This is the problem I’ve always had since that was revealed in Spartan Ops.

The slot of the Didact being an important character for the saga could be filled by the Bornstellar Didact, rather than the original one.

~ Duck.

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> The slot of the Didact being an important character for the saga could be filled by the Bornstellar Didact, rather than the original one.
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> ~ Duck.

That doesn’t make any sense. They aren’t the same character, so no, the slot wouldn’t be filled.

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> Yet he never showed up again? <mark>Surely seeing as he was still hell-bent on killing all humans he would have led the Prometheans and Covenant forces when the Infinity returned, rather than supposedly fleeing.</mark> This is the problem I’ve always had since that was revealed in Spartan Ops.
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> The slot of the Didact being an important character for the saga could be filled by the Bornstellar Didact, rather than the original one.
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> ~ Duck.

Unless, of course, the portal sent him elsewhere as the Epilogue seems to imply.

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> > The slot of the Didact being an important character for the saga could be filled by the Bornstellar Didact, rather than the original one.
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> > ~ Duck.
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> That doesn’t make any sense. They aren’t the same character, so no, the slot wouldn’t be filled.

He has the Didact’s imprint, so basically is just a more tempered version as he is described in the Greg Bear novels.

So in a way, yes, it would be filled. Kind of by Proxy but still.

And I thought we’d already established that the epilogue was taken from him briefing the council prior to the start of the Human-Forerunner war, not after H4.