I seriously think that the campaign could’ve capitalized on the fact that the Didact is forerunner much better.
Throughout the campaign, you meet a forerunner. A great, advanced, mythical forerunner. But I don’t think anyone really cares about that. No one even acknowledges it.
It’s all so generic. Bad guy, wants to kill everyone, gotta stop him. Now don’t get me wrong, the lore is fascinating. The execution isn’t so good IMO.
Any thoughts?
I think it was done fine. Question for ya, watched all the Termals from Halo 4 yet???
Well kinda hard when he’s trying to kill everbody.
That’s the one thing I didn’t really like about the story. Chief and Cortana didn’t feel very surprised when they met the Didact or the Librarian. They should’ve been like “Oh wow! A living, breathing member of the lost race of legend!”. Also, they didn’t seem very surprised about the fact that ancient humans had achieved Tier 1 technology and battled with the Forerunners. No biggie, it’s only the most interesting origin story possible for the existence of the human race.
> I think it was done fine. Question for ya, watched all the Termals from Halo 4 yet???
Yes, I have.
But I don’t think that terminals can be considered a part of campaign. You shouldn’t need to rely on terminals to tell the story.
Like So:
> I think thats one of the weaknesses Halo 4 has compared to previous Halo games, simply put 343i relied on the terminals to give the main antagonist of the game exposition which would have been used to a greater effect if it was done in game.
I just think everyone was more focused on not dying, in Halo 5 they might reflect on it more.
> I think it was done fine. Question for ya, watched all the Termals from Halo 4 yet???
I think thats one of the weaknesses Halo 4 has compared to previous Halo games, simply put 343i relied on the terminals to give the main antagonist of the game exposition which would have been used to a greater effect if it was done in game.
I agree with you OP. The story was extremely generic.
Also, the Forerunner structures and ships and so on didn’t feel ancient or advanced enough. I’m playing through Halo 2’s campaign, and honestly I keep seeing stuff in the Forerunner structures on that Halo that seems more amazing than what was in Halo 4’s campaign. With the improved game engine, the artists should have done better at communicating how ancient, advanced, and amazing the Forerunners are.
The one part when the Chief talked to that female forerunner pulled this off fairly well, but the rest was so far behind that particular part actually felt out of place in the campaign to me.
They did ok, kind of, with the Didact by allowing him to be able to dissolve objects and levitate the Master Chief, but they failed to communicate just how incredible the Didact and the forerunners should be.
There was also no climatic build up really to encountering a LIVING forerunner.
>Didact shows up.
>Didact is somehow the bad guy and hypocritically tries to defy the mantle. Makes sense…
>Didact doesn’t speak much at all throughout the game.
>Eventually you just up and kill him (anti-climatically).
Very poor execution.
> > I think it was done fine. Question for ya, watched all the Termals from Halo 4 yet???
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> I think thats one of the weaknesses Halo 4 has compared to previous Halo games, simply put 343i relied on the terminals to give the main antagonist of the game exposition which would have been used to a greater effect if it was done in game.
Yeah i felt the same thats why i asked. I was in the dark till i watched them all.
Yea i guess they couldve had like a “WTF is THIS!” moment but it really didnt come across to the audience, but the Didact is anything but generic. He is the Forerunner’s greatest warrior and leader of the Promethean army, so hostility towards humanity is sorta his job. Then it got more personal when the humans killed his children, caught the attention of his wife who later betrayed him to try and save humanity from him, imprisoned him, locked him away, and turned his own guardians against him. Seems kind of a good reason to destroy the human race.
> >Didact shows up.
> >Didact is somehow the bad guy and hypocritically tries to defy the mantle. Makes sense…
> >Didact doesn’t speak much at all throughout the game.
> >Eventually you just up and kill him (anti-climatically).
>
> Very poor execution.
Agreed.
> Yea i guess they couldve had like a “WTF is THIS!” moment but it really didnt come across to the audience, but the Didact is anything but generic. He is the Forerunner’s greatest warrior and leader of the Promethean army, so hostility towards humanity is sorta his job. Then it got more personal when the humans killed his children, caught the attention of his wife who later betrayed him to try and save humanity from him, imprisoned him, locked him away, and turned his own guardians against him. Seems kind of a good reason to destroy the human race.
I don’t mean to say the Didact is generic, just the way the story in Halo 4 unfolds. I’m sorry if I confused you.
You’re absolutely right, the Didact isn’t generic, and that’s also why they should’ve been like,“Holy (insert profane term signaling surprise), the Didact is a forerunner!”
> I agree with you OP. The story was extremely generic.
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> Also, the Forerunner structures and ships and so on didn’t feel ancient or advanced enough. I’m playing through Halo 2’s campaign, and honestly I keep seeing stuff in the Forerunner structures on that Halo that seems more amazing than what was in Halo 4’s campaign. With the improved game engine, the artists should have done better at communicating how ancient, advanced, and amazing the Forerunners are.
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> The one part when the Chief talked to that female forerunner pulled this off fairly well, but the rest was so far behind that particular part actually felt out of place in the campaign to me.
>
> They did ok, kind of, with the Didact by allowing him to be able to dissolve objects and levitate the Master Chief, but they failed to communicate just how incredible the Didact and the forerunners should be.
>
> There was also no climatic build up really to encountering a LIVING forerunner.
All the points you make are valid in my opinion. Absolutely agreed.
> > Yea i guess they couldve had like a “WTF is THIS!” moment but it really didnt come across to the audience, but the Didact is anything but generic. He is the Forerunner’s greatest warrior and leader of the Promethean army, so hostility towards humanity is sorta his job. Then it got more personal when the humans killed his children, caught the attention of his wife who later betrayed him to try and save humanity from him, imprisoned him, locked him away, and turned his own guardians against him. Seems kind of a good reason to destroy the human race.
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> I don’t mean to say the Didact is generic, just the way the story in Halo 4 unfolds. I’m sorry if I confused you.
>
> You’re absolutely right, the Didact isn’t generic, and that’s also why they should’ve been like,“Holy (insert profane term signaling surprise), the Didact is a forerunner!”
well yea, the chief didn’t even ask cortana what he was at all and I believe that the Librarian couldve told more about the Didact, considering she does know everything that is wrong with him.
> >Didact shows up.
> >Didact is somehow the bad guy and hypocritically tries to defy the mantle. Makes sense…
> >Didact doesn’t speak much at all throughout the game.
> >Eventually you just up and kill him (anti-climatically).
>
> Very poor execution.
The Didact isn’t dead though, he’s very much still alive and kicking.
> > > Yea i guess they couldve had like a “WTF is THIS!” moment but it really didnt come across to the audience, but the Didact is anything but generic. He is the Forerunner’s greatest warrior and leader of the Promethean army, so hostility towards humanity is sorta his job. Then it got more personal when the humans killed his children, caught the attention of his wife who later betrayed him to try and save humanity from him, imprisoned him, locked him away, and turned his own guardians against him. Seems kind of a good reason to destroy the human race.
> >
> > I don’t mean to say the Didact is generic, just the way the story in Halo 4 unfolds. I’m sorry if I confused you.
> >
> > You’re absolutely right, the Didact isn’t generic, and that’s also why they should’ve been like,“Holy (insert profane term signaling surprise), the Didact is a forerunner!”
>
> well yea, the chief didn’t even ask cortana what he was at all and I believe that the Librarian couldve told more about the Didact, considering she does know everything that is wrong with him.
Knowing about him is an understatement, she’s his wife!
> > >Didact shows up.
> > >Didact is somehow the bad guy and hypocritically tries to defy the mantle. Makes sense…
> > >Didact doesn’t speak much at all throughout the game.
> > >Eventually you just up and kill him (anti-climatically).
> >
> > Very poor execution.
>
> The Didact isn’t dead though, he’s very much still alive and kicking.
I think he’s alive too. If they killed him off this early, that’s a big no-no.
> > > >Didact shows up.
> > > >Didact is somehow the bad guy and hypocritically tries to defy the mantle. Makes sense…
> > > >Didact doesn’t speak much at all throughout the game.
> > > >Eventually you just up and kill him (anti-climatically).
> > >
> > > Very poor execution.
> >
> > The Didact isn’t dead though, he’s very much still alive and kicking.
>
> I think he’s alive too. If they killed him off this early, that’s a big no-no.
And im sure when he returns in Halo 5 hes gonna pull some really bad moves. I could Halo 5 being very dark because he comes back to dish out some punishment
> > > > >Didact shows up.
> > > > >Didact is somehow the bad guy and hypocritically tries to defy the mantle. Makes sense…
> > > > >Didact doesn’t speak much at all throughout the game.
> > > > >Eventually you just up and kill him (anti-climatically).
> > > >
> > > > Very poor execution.
> > >
> > > The Didact isn’t dead though, he’s very much still alive and kicking.
> >
> > I think he’s alive too. If they killed him off this early, that’s a big no-no.
>
> And im sure when he returns in Halo 5 hes gonna pull some really bad moves. I could Halo 5 being very dark because he comes back to dish out some punishment
If the didact has a bigger role in Halo 5 then I’ll be convinced that they added the didact in Halo 4 for the sake of having an enemy because honestly the more I think about it the more I think 343i really couldnt decide whether to introduce him in Halo 4 or Halo 5.