Did you get more enjoyment out of Reach?

I can safely say that I did.

Halo: Reach had it’s flaws. Okay, fine, lots of flaws. Especially with AA balance, Bloom, etc.

But, it was so solid. It worked. There was a lot of variety in the weapons, from the Plasma Launcher to the Spiker, to the DMR and Grenade Launcher.

If you didn’t like a map, fair enough, you could just load up Forge and make pretty much make anything you desire. The sky was the limit.

Custom Games never got old. The amount of options allowed you to create anything from a competitive MLG gametype, to an insane Jetpack-Fuel Rod deathmatch with everyone on fire. Then there was HaloBall, Stockpile, Headhunter, a WORKING CTF, Assault, all the good stuff was there to mess around with.

Forge World might have been grey, but now I realise that nothing in Halo 4 quite compares to it. It was interesting to see how one person utilized a certain area or even a set of areas, it was something you could just look at and go ‘wow’. There was enough space and pieces to build anything from a massive Arbiter statue to a sprawling BTB map.

Reach had a lot of issues, but none were absolutely game breaking or intolerable. Even if you did find some of those things intolerable you could just go to Custom Games and manipulate it into the game that you desired.

It had all these little hidden things in it. Easter Eggs, aesthetics, you name it. It was endless fun searching for all this hidden content in the maps and the campaign. If you wanted a gigantic Human vs Elite skirmish, you could make that with ease. If you wanted a competitive map, you could build it. If you wanted a Neutral or One Flag gametype, you could actually do that.

However, with Halo 4, everything seems to be wrong. The Custom Games and Forge were 1000x better in Reach. The multiplayer becomes boring and stale very, very quickly with the incredible lack of working gametypes. The dynamic lighting in Forge only limits you even more than you already are. The weapons and abilities are so unbalanced against each other that it is no longer fun to play.

Reach was polished. It had a lot of flaws, but it worked. There were hardly any performance issues aside from lag, which is even worse in Halo 4 due to the crappy servers. The fileshare system was actually working.

BUNGiE knew what they were doing and what they were trying to achieve. The Beta certainly helped with that. 343i is just throwing stuff into the mix without thinking and sugarcoating it.

Halo 4 will not last in the long term if things keep up this way. The population at peak times is much less after 3 months than Reach was after a year and a half.

It feels like a beta for something else. A beta, that we paid a lot of money for.

Halo: Reach feels 10x more like Halo, than Halo 4 ever will.

Now if you’d excuse me, I need to find a flamesuit.

I fully agree, I adored Reach.

Halo Reach is definitely my favorite Halo game by far.
Even with people complaining about stuff like Armor Abilities, there were still options and playlists you could go to to AVOID playing with them.

And custom games were just amazing, the forge capabilities were literally endless.
Me and few friends just 3 days ago hopped back onto Reach and were playing through some amazingly difficult Puzzle and Race maps that had been made, and it was the most fun we’ve had in awhile playing a Halo game.

Heck, I didn’t even realize a lot of people hated Halo Reach until i came here for Halo 4.
I thought the game was amazing.

I would play Firefight almost every day in Reach especially when it was Limited Firefight. I play Spartan Ops on Mondays only. So yeah, there’s that.

i first played halo 3 at 2010 when i got my xbox and halo 3 was stile alive… it was epic and halo became my favorite game since then… later i got reach i knew that it was bad compared to halo 3 but i had lots of fun playing it even i critisize it alot … then 343 announced halo 4… i got my hopes too up never have i felt so exited for a game and ended up so dissapointed… i then played reach again and it felt like a classic i feel like a hyprcrite bashing on reach when now i realize that its my second favorite online game… halo reach still had that halo feeling that lacks at halo 4

I hate Reach to death and I don’t know anyone that didn’t. I have just as muc if not more fun playing Halo 4 then I did playing 3 and maybe even CE PC

> I hate Reach to death and I don’t know anyone that didn’t. I have just as muc if not more fun playing Halo 4 then I did playing 3 and maybe even CE PC

This specimen uses the DMR as his weapon of choice. How could you not have fun when you’re just spamming the most overpowered weapon in the game against people who don’t stand a chance with the other weapons?

about the same so far, if the DMR was gone and the maps were more Arena based such as haven and community ones id love it. Also if they could add more variety to playlists.

…No

> …No

This post just outclasses my OP by a mile. So many reasons explaining his decision!

> I hate Reach to death and I don’t know anyone that didn’t. I have just as muc if not more fun playing Halo 4 then I did playing 3 and maybe even CE PC

In contrast, almost all of my friends who have been playing Halo Games with me all like Reach the Most.

Why is there such a…skewed opinion line for Reach?
It seems people either LOVED the game, or absolutely hated it. I never see an in-between.

No, reach was a blast, but halo 4 is much more complete in every way.

Bungie knew what they were doing?

Because the way they pissed on ten years of established canon and left the community and 343 to pick up the pieces suggests otherwise.

Reach was awful but I do have more fun memories on co-op campaign, rumble pit and firefight limited than anywhere on halo 4.

If both halo 4 and halo reach were released tomorrow and I knew exactly what I know now then I’d not waste my money on either.

Reach was a fantastic game.

I dont understand why people who did not like just played the classic game type?

Reach is far more developed and advanced than Halo4.

It is more enjoyable as it has countless more features and variety.

I loved Reach and I still do.

> Bungie knew what they were doing?
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> Because the way they pissed on ten years of established canon and left the community and 343 to pick up the pieces suggests otherwise.

BUNGiE’s faults do not justify 343i’s; they made their own set of mistakes.

Blaming everything on BUNGiE is childish.

No, I’m enjoying Halo 4 much more.

The only times I enjoyed Reach more than Halo 4 was the better Custom Games as it had more options, and more of my friends actively played Reach than Halo 4. Which kind of sucks because I like Halo 4 a lot better.

> > I hate Reach to death and I don’t know anyone that didn’t. I have just as muc if not more fun playing Halo 4 then I did playing 3 and maybe even CE PC
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> This specimen uses the DMR as his weapon of choice. How could you not have fun when you’re just spamming the most overpowered weapon in the game against people who don’t stand a chance with the other weapons?

Actually smarty pants xD I use all the loadout weapons except supressor Br was my mosted used weapon a month or 2 ago but I change my loadouts around had DMR and storm rifle as the first an it was a goto loadout. I been using the Light rifle and Carbine more. I use the DMR for long range combat nothin more I switch to something else like the storm rifle for close and usually mid. Once I get DMR master I’m going to continue getting BR master.

> > > I hate Reach to death and I don’t know anyone that didn’t. I have just as muc if not more fun playing Halo 4 then I did playing 3 and maybe even CE PC
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> > This specimen uses the DMR as his weapon of choice. How could you not have fun when you’re just spamming the most overpowered weapon in the game against people who don’t stand a chance with the other weapons?
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> Actually <mark>smary pants</mark> xD I use all the loadout weapons except supressor Br wasmy mosted used weapon a month or 2 ago but I chage my loadouts aroun had DMR and storm rifle as the first an it was a goto loadout. I been using the Light rifle and Carbine more.

Oh the irony.