Through my years of playing Halo, I always simply thought I loved Halo and Bungie was pretty cool for making it. I loved all of Bungie’s games, their Halos and even their past games like Marathon. Reach is probably my favorite game from them.
Then comes along 343i, a new company with promise. I get excited, and then I play…and I wonder what happened to Halo. 343i wanted to make their own Halo game, but they forgot it’s Bungie that made it what it was and made it the best it was. Why try to tack on your own signature, fix what wasn’t broken? Halo 3 was the peak of the franchise, and instead of learning from Bungie’s final deviation, they expand upon it and bring it to this. I don’t understand.
Many say this is evolution of Halo, and it needs evolution, but I and many other’s don’t like 343i’s evolution. It makes me wonder, did we ever really love Halo because it was Halo, or did we love Halo because a company like Bungie made it? A company with great fan communication, openness, experience, and dedication to polish (or being GOOD at it). It’s these things 343i doesn’t have. Maybe they’ll do better next time, maybe not.
I just know that I prefer games that have good companies making them, instead of inexperienced companies building a game WHILE building a company WHILE outsourcing projects to other companies and letting things get lost in translation.
What say you, disgruntled forum goers? Did you like Halo for what it was, or did you like Halo for the devs behind it?
I definitely like Bungie. They seem to be a great company, although honestly ODST and Reach did give me some doubt if they had remained that way, but I think they just got really burnt out on Halo and the baggage that comes with it.
I’m looking forward to Destiny, even though there’s nothing to know about it at this point really lol. I hope its another great shooter!
At this point I also dislike 343 Industries, a lot.
I had nothing against 343i pre-Halo 4. In fact, I was excited to see where Halo was going to go and what great new things would be brought into the franchise.
Now I’m just pissed. 343i has the worst game management ever, no communication with the community and gave us a half-finished beta. Not to mention boring and repetitive map design and abysmal story-telling and voice acting in Spartan Ops (I mean, for -Yoink-'s sake, some of that dialogue is enough to make you cringe).
I don’t have much hope for 343i and Halo 4, which certainly makes me miss Bungie and the days of the original trilogy.
Bungie over the years have provided us with great entertainment.
343 Industries, while a newer company, has many ex-members of Bungie as a part of their staff. Thus far, I’ve enjoyed Halo 4 (their own work) greatly and will probably continue to do so.
Bungie, however, is a company that I will always love. Unless they fail Step 7.
Well the past Halo games did bring something new each game like the forge/2.0 equipment, armour abilities etc. I did enjoy Halo then for what it was but now there isn’t any Overall new features in Halo 4 to make the game stand out like the rest. Like such as the Massive Forge world of Halo reach/better forge or the action packed battles that lasted in Halo 3 campaign its just disappointing overall to see halo now as it is.
> It’s a new game, no one ever likes new games. You know the “perfect” Halo game Halo 3? Well look what i dug
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again took the words rite out of my mouth its true, i don’t play cod but with cod its exactly like that as well people just like to hate
> I love both Bungie and 343 Industries.
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> Bungie over the years have provided us with great entertainment.
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> 343 Industries, while a newer company, has many ex-members of Bungie as a part of their staff. Thus far, I’ve enjoyed Halo 4 (their own work) greatly and will probably continue to do so.
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> Bungie, however, is a company that I will always love. Unless they fail Step 7.
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> Burn Bright. Burn Blue.
Many as in, maybe at most 3. It’s a misconception that many Bungie devs wanted to keep making Halo, many of them didn’t. The only notable one was Frankie.
spammerstriker: It’s been that way for every game. Many complaints are subjective. Cold hard numbers such an online longevity, ratio of copies sold for Xboxes owned, etc…those are objective. Halo 3 was the best game for longevity and so forth, so it’s fair to say it was objectivly the best game.
> It’s a new game, no one ever likes new games. You know the “perfect” Halo game Halo 3? Well look what i dug
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> People don’t like anything new.
Don’t know what you’re referring to, exactly, in that link you posted. Most posters like Halo 3. They’re talking over the fine points between H2 and H3. They’re not saying, what is this OP invis doing in the game? Why is a spawned pistol like a shotgun to the face?
You can make all comments relative, if you want, but I was there back when H3 was launched. The complaints were very small–very loud–but very small (dual SMG, BR-spread), compared to the abominations we’re dealing with in Halo 4.
guys… i personally have nothing against 343i, the thing is since bungie was stepping down they let 343i do the plots and gameplay for reach and odst… They arent bad games, but they could have stuck with bungies layout instead of trying to remake something that didn’t need remaking.
Bungie created the beloved Halo Universe. I realized a month or so ago that I enjoyed the way Bungie did things, but don’t care for 343 much at all. I’m not really sure if I’ll get Halo 5, but I can tell you that I will buy into whatever “Destiny” turns out to be. I can put some level of faith into Bungie. They didn’t care so much about the money as they cared about the community and making something they would love to play. They didn’t like Microsoft and broke away to do their own thing. 343 seems like it is a Microsoft pawn to make more money off of a game that already has a well-developed fanbase and following.
> I had nothing against 343i pre-Halo 4. In fact, I was excited to see where Halo was going to go and what great new things would be brought into the franchise.
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> Now I’m just pissed. 343i has the worst game management ever, no communication with the community and gave us a half-finished beta. Not to mention boring and repetitive map design and abysmal story-telling and voice acting in Spartan Ops (I mean, for -Yoink!-'s sake, some of that dialogue is enough to make you cringe).
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> I don’t have much hope for 343i and Halo 4, which certainly makes me miss Bungie and the days of the original trilogy.
Pretty much what ive been thinking too, and i think a lot more people aswell
> Bungie created the beloved Halo Universe. I realized a month or so ago that I enjoyed the way Bungie did things, but don’t care for 343 much at all. I’m not really sure if I’ll get Halo 5, but I can tell you that I will buy into whatever “Destiny” turns out to be. I can put some level of faith into Bungie. They didn’t care so much about the money as they cared about the community and making something they would love to play. They didn’t like Microsoft and broke away to do their own thing. 343 seems like it is a Microsoft pawn to make more money off of a game that already has a well-developed fanbase and following.
Someone can actually put some trust into Bungie because they’ve proved themselves five times over with games that sold millions and racked in the tens, if not hundreds of millions of bucks. Not even taking into consideration their past IPs.
I feel ashamed I put so much faith in 343i. They’ve didn’t have experience and never proved themselves, and it showed. Giving Halo to a rookie company like 343i was a big mistake.
I love Halo.
Bungie are a great company, but It’s halo i love. wether its Bungie or 343i, i will always love Halo.
Halo 4, still plays, feels and looks like Halo.
343i have done and are doing a great job with taking over a franchise with such a big name
Bungie is a luck-driven developer who incidentally struck gold with Halo CE, compensated for a lack of time and made things great on accident with Halo 2, made a Halo 2 ending that had worse mechanics than Halo 2 known as Halo 3, made an admittedly good DLC size spin-off game with ODST, and totally bombed when they actually tried to change something on purpose with no time restraints.
Bungie is a bittersweet developer. They’re sweet because they made a lot of my favorite games, but knowing that a great load of their success was based off of intuition and more so luck, I find them bitter. I also find them bitter because their games had a trend of getting progressively worse.
What I like about 343 is, while Halo 4 might not be up to par with the trilogy, it’s the first main Halo that improved upon its predecessor, not-good-enough-to-be-considered-Halo Reach.
