I’m not on a high horse bud. This company/franchise has billions and hundreds of employees and took half a decade to make this game. Stop kissing their behind
Worshipping rich people is not empathy.
This is why things are the way they are…apologist.
These bleeding heart threads are getting really dumb. You realize you aren’t getting a free cosmetic for defending a multi-million dollar company with a multi-billion dollar parent company right?
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Do you ever get tired of making that claim when it isn’t being asked? Would you rather ans the question rather than interject asinine statements that don’t add to the conversation… lol
Then why are all these weirdos coming out of the shadows saying “Leave Britney alone!” They clearly want to be rewarded for defending 343… or maybe they want you to come to their rescue… who knows?
Humans are so strange.
Yeah so i can pick blue and look exactly like everyone else who’s wearing blue lmao
Thanks to coatings people can actually look unique and still have the same color as each other.
Much better than the old system. I was tired of looking exactly like everyone else
You realize that some of us aren’t stuck in the weird headspace where every company needs to be torn down and we’re living in some dystopian gamer world where companies steal money out of our pockets and purposefully make mistakes on our favorite games just to see us suffer? You’re deluded. We’re defending the company because your complaints have been addressed and everyone now sounds like a borken record despite the fact the changes they’re asking for take TIME to implement and test. One change can ruin like 500 lines fo code even if it’s seemingly not related. That’s why these games need to be tested, that’s why games like Skyrim are still buggy as hell, because even fixing that issue could cause a hundred others.
If people could wrap their heads around the fact that 343 is listening, has acknowledged they’re working on it, are currently on Holiday vacation and the changes we want are realistically coming closer to Spring time, the world would be a better place and we wouldn’t have to defend 343. I don’t get what happened to you to make you believe that 343 is some evil company out to get you. We don’t want anything in return for loving the game, we know how to have fun and take the game’s changes for what they are while still giving feedback instead of ruining everyone else’s fun.
If you want to spend $20 to look unique, go for it lol
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Spend $20 where I want when I want on a game that’s completely free? Or spend $60 plus DLC for just to be limited in my customization with no new added content other than maps for the game’s lifespan like Bungie’s Halo games. Easy choice for me
Sorry man, but you’re the delusional one. This game was not made with you or any of us in mind, it was about money… and it was so about money, when we called them out about it, 343 even ADMITTED it. So keep defending a company that only cares about how much money you can sink into their cosmetics store.
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I love Halo. Didn’t like Halo 4 and 5.
The only thing I was interested in infinite was Co-op and BTB.
343i has never surprised me in a good way, only disappointed me less than I am used to (Halo infinite).
Hope they fix things.
Spend your money however you want. Still, I raise an eyebrow about really being unique when, you know, others will have the same exact coatings as you. You really aren’t any different than anybody else and the fact you pay to not look unique is pretty funny.
But if folks have more cents in their wallet than sense in their head, that’s not my concern.
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This is getting really tiresome.
The vast majority of people who’ve been labeled as “Entitled” in a negative connotation around Infinite’s monetization have never expected something for nothing. Most of them are just conditioned to expect something different than how F2P games are monetized.
Jerry Hook completely nailed this point in the Happy Halo-days community stream a few weeks back. For twenty years, Halo has largely adhered to the conventional retail model where there’s a paid barrier to entry, but a more holistic sense of “ownership” over the game (fewer monetized elements beyond the initial/main paid exlerience). Now, Infinite is operating on a service/platform model.
This is largely the same phenomenon that’s been occurring for years in other fields. Companies understandably love service/platform models. Consumers often require some time to adjust to the idea (DVD collection vs Netflix, iTunes vs Apple Music. et al.)
There’s an understandable expectation many Halo fans have that Infinite just doesn’t adhere to. That’s frustrating. Yes, there are also benefits to how Infinite is structured- only, most of these are most beneficial to a newer audience with no or different expectations from the returning fans. Free to play is spectacular for folks who weren’t interested in rolling the dice with $60+ to try out Halo. That’s good for the series and ultimately its fans, and a lot of people are unfortunately overlooking that.
There’s a lot more to the detractors’ argument than “I feel entitled to X from 343i,” though.
If it was just about money they would’ve charged us $60 and then completely dropped the game like what happened with Mass Effect: Andromeda. But they didn’t do that, they spent the past few years of their lives making this game, and plan to spend the next few years adding on to it so that we all can have an awesome and enjoyable experience. No shot they need money. Bungie did too, so does every company. Maintining servers costs money, keeping the offices costs money, paying employees costs money, advertising costs money, making assets, testing software, buying new hardware and upkeeping the office, everything costs an immense amount of money for them to even bring us this game and any changes/addititons that come with it.
They could’ve either charged us for the game and any new content that comes with it, or give us the game for free and let us choose what to buy cosmetically. They chose the free option. Why do so many people consider that worse? We’re at a point in gaming where instead of games having a 3 year lifespan with only maps as post-launch content we’re having games with 8 year lifespan and an incredible amount of content. Live service is the way to go, man. tweak the Store prices a little bit and we’re good.
Entitled is my favorite buzzword too
Back in my day we praised every decision ever made by corporations! Those were the good old days, before people decided their money had value…
9 years of unnecessary cosmetics is a step in the right direction? Shouldn’t they be adding new maps, weapons, creating new game modes and game types or at least adding the old ones? You will really choose paying for core-specific colors, pineapples, cat ears and flowers in your visor over true valuable content that was provided to us before…?
Nothing is road mapped, or explained to the player base… so all anyone can do is speculate what 343 is going to do next, and trust is difficult because hardly any company has a squeaky clean record to back them up.
I personally wouldn’t mind this new cosmetic approach if 343 didn’t drastically change the core fundamentals that have been found in nearly every Halo game since Halo 2 simply to try and make more sales in the store.
This is why REQ packs didn’t bother me, they weren’t the greatest and I did have to grind to unlock the rewards but they were TRULY optional store content, unlike Infinite’s store which permanently locks a large majority of all rewards from players.
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Of course we’re gonna be getting new and old modes, maps, etc. But just like everything else that will take time to produce and test and release on a schedule. 343 is on a well-deserved break right now, when they come back I have no doubt we’ll get to hear more and get a proper roadmap leading up to Season 2.
I enjoyed the req packs too. I think a major think that would ease alot of people’s unrest is the ability to earn credits in-game, it’d make a big difference because I could grind for something instead of paying for it if I so chose.
I don’t think game breaking bugs are insignificant. 80% of the time you can’t get into a match and when you finally do get into a match the poor hit detection makes it impossible to play.
They shouldn’t have released a broken game. I don’t think it’s entitlement to want a game to work on release.
And of course anyone deserves to enjoy the holidays, but that’s an excuse when you choose to release a product during the holidays. They planned all of this, 50% or more of Infinite needed worked on after early release and the official launch(some things aren’t even coming until next year!), the one thing that didn’t need any sort of refinement or fixing: you guessed it… the Cosmetics Store! Boy didn’t those Cosmetics teams get their jobs done with flying colors while everyone else lagged behind! That’s where 343’s priorities lie, and they have shown me their hand. Could it change in the future? sure… but with no road map or scheduled plan put in place by the devs, we are left to rely on empty promises that may or may not get fulfilled.
I think they should have went a different route but now it’s too late, this is what we got folks.
For sure and i’m not disagreeing that the store was a mistake, but they did apologize and right before Christmas said when they come back they’ll make some changes to it and other things. On that note, for sure we can be upset about the mistake but the fact that they’re willing to make those changes is what sets them apart from other companies. If they just didn’t do any form of community outreach at all, it’d be a different story but they do listen and they have already made changes based on our feedback in the form of temporary xp gain changes and Fiesta coming back and not being tied to the event. If their priority was solely in charging us a heinous amount of money they wouldn’t have made the game free or put the Campaign on Game Pass for dirt cheap.
And that’s the big thing I think alot of folks are forgetting is that you can play this game totally fine and not spend a single penny. It doesn’t even require XBL Gold anymore for multiplayer! The only monetization is BP and Store and those we all agree need work.
not even close id agree people are more entitled thanks to the internet but not gamers… just go and play a 5 year old game right now and you will see the point
these games dont get released in a vacuum cyberpunk was inevitably going to be compared with GTA and if it comes up short people will not only see thta but call it out too
the internet is a very loud place