Did the internet make Gamers more entitled!

Halo Infinite’s so called issues are insignificant in the broad spectrum of releases this fall, some QOL stuff game wise and some specific ask from the community like playlist etc, given the direction 343i chose compared to the at large populous Far n wide very minute issues compared to other releases. Yet if you check the forums or twitter you’d think the opposite. Their are things I’d like the team to address but seeing as they just handed me their baby which they took such good care of these last few years. I’m inclined to not beat them over the head and know they are working on it and with the patches and tweaks to challenges and playlist additions… I know they’re listening. So pls entitled gamers who can’t see the forest for the trees, take a step back, breathe and appreciate the Joy you’re having and stop for a sec. The team needs a break too n have been working extremely hard to give us this joy.

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Idk its only my third day out here

Some of the problems people are having have nothing to do with the internet but more the game’s legacy. Closest you’ll have to the internet causing entitlement is comparing Infinite to other games which is pretty reasonable. We’re supposed to go forward with each game, not backwards.

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Maybe stop calling people entitled. Look, consumers have no say in how a product is made. Yet, they’re expected to spend money on it. I never have liked the “gamers are entitled” argument. When someone sells a product they’re entitled to make it however they like with no consumer feedback. When consumers consume said product, their entitled to voice their criticisms. They aren’t entitled to have all their concerns meet. But they are entitled to voice them.

Also, this game is definitely lacking a lot of features previous Halo games had. Such as general progression, a wide selection of maps, forge, coop campaign, collision, arguable the playlist selection is still thin, customization, definitive body types, etc. People have a right to be concerned about these things. Some of them get too adamant, but that doesn’t mean they don’t have a right to be concerned.

Also, while you ask has the internet made gamers too entitled. I think it’s fair to ask if it’s made developers/publishers too lazy. In the past you had to ship a full game. This is not the case when everyone has access to high speed internet. Now most games might as well be early access in all but name. And I don’t appreciate that, but maybe that just makes me “entitled”.

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I’m not an angry fan. I’m good with what’s “free to me”.

The only reason why I think people are angry is because of what they left us with over the holidays. That being no stats, no free customizations, and other issues that I know needed this game to be launched to even see if they’re a bug or not (cough cough BTB).

I say it’s a free game, so we can’t say, hey I paid for this? :face_with_symbols_over_mouth:

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Some people forget when dlc first came on the scene, how overpriced and useless stuff was like horse armor in oblivion.

Even before covid game developers were releasing early access games at full triple a title prices, no mans sky, Fallout 76 and many others. But now cyberpunk 2077, up to Halo have been unpolished, cut content as well as poor decisions. All in the name of profit margins and deadlines. Criticism and holding companies to a standard aren’t bad things, but when it becomes hatred and death threats thats another story. The internet just made it way easier for unstable people to do that.

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Sorry that people aren’t grateful at having the opportunity to spend $8 on the color blue when they were used to just being able to pick any color they wanted in the previous games.

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Hey, that wasn’t just any blue, it was Lucky Blue. The luck alone is worth the price.

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There is NEVER anything entitled about making demands to a company regarding a product’s creation to sell it to the public. Never forget that ultimately this is a transactional relationship and nothing else.

The fanbase owes 343 and Microsoft absolutely nothing.

We can make any demands we want about the game realistic or absurd. It’s up to 343 and MS to decide if it’s worth the cost.

Devs and publishers never deserve thanks they aren’t our friends.

They have to earn praise by making a great product. That’s it.

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BTB doesn’t work…1 of 4 original playlists doesn’t work…enough said.

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I can understand that, but when we got halo 5 everyone wanted Halo 3 etc… no I’m not talking bout story… ppl are free to feel however they like on it… for me it was enjoyable… game mechanics… the vast majority of complaints was the speed and it supposedly not feeling like halo tho it did with Mantle and boost added etc… Infinite to me feels very solid. I don’t get the majority of complaints… I know features for me are a case by case and nothing to me feels missed outside of playlist options and cross play not being able to opt out…

Entitled maybe a strong word but I believe it fits. I’m more understanding seeing as they built the game with a great deal of input from said consumers especially after Halo 5’s reception. This feels like a love letter to halo and it’s fans. I’m not saying the game is perfect by any means it’s that they have been transparent with us and have given road maps etc… they built a game based on a set of info we don’t have access to. Playlist selection is big for me and I can understand to a degree why it is the way it is when it’s MP offering is F2P. But I’d still like a change.

I can’t say devs have become lazy because many of the studios I follow are bussing their -Yoink!- despite the circumstances they are under and still drop a solid MP and campaign offering. Yes some TLC care packages will come based on Consumer feedback and experience. Forge they made clear needed time as well as Co-op. They communicated it… it’s not like we are playing guessing games.

Progression is a red hearing that I wish was more MCC/Old Halo days vs how it is today. But again I understand why based on content needing to stretch. And consumers consuming so fast then whining about after…

The State of BTB makes me sad as it’s my fav game mode but it doesn’t mean I get to tear them down like most do who don’t understand it takes time to fix things as well as implement request.

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343i is capable of providing much more complete experiences on releases as I personally had no complaints with 4 and 5’s releases. So it’s not like I’m complaining for the sake of complaining.

Infinite is an incomplete experience at the end of the day and I spend more time on the forums than playing the game. I think I posted on the forums zero times for 4 and maybe one or two posts for 5.

Speaks bounds to me. Infinite really doesn’t feel like a love letter in its current state. Maybe this time next year it will.

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No.
The internet makes everyone entitled. It is now a system of monetized bullhorns, that have duped people into not understanding the contracts they are signing because it’s a “free” bullhorn they can scream into without much consequence.

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No one is saying 343i or MS is owed anything my friend what I’m saying is gamers tend to have expectations that can feel out of reach and make demands because a thing isn’t as they would like and expect it to change over night to suit them… RL doesn’t work this way… yes if a thing doesn’t work as intended when spending money or time I get voicing complaints…

I know features are missing and requested and it takes time to implement… the In game prices are down right crap and should be changed. The state of BTB needs fixing as match stability if you can even get one is down right trash… access to Playlist and game types etc… these are all economies of scale that we the gamer down care about yet expect to have just because we are use to it… it doesn’t work that way… especially when we don’t want to absorb the cost of it but expect it as standard… the hypocrisy is rife here.

We’ll be careful out here, they’re many campers waiting to spring out from the shadows. Also practice some empathy towards ya fellow internet dwellers.

To be fair, a lot of the complaints being made by fans (myself included) are more mad about the things that are not on launch that every Halo game had since launch.

The issues most people have issues with are :

  • No Forge on launch (Halo 3, 4, Reach, had it on Launch which is concerning that Halo 5 and Infinite didn’t)

  • No Campaign Co-Op (Not a big deal to me personally at the moment, but this was in every Halo game since CE to 5)

  • Lack of game variants to play compared to past Halo’s launch (Assault, Infection, King of the Hill, etc.)

  • Cosmetic Controversies (Let’s not get into that here though…)

Don’t get me wrong, the developers did a great job on this game on gameplay, graphics, music, and voice actors. I don’t think most people are trying to say that 343 did a lazy job.

However, more are upset that there is many unwanted limitations or missing features that has existed since games beyond Halo 3’s launch (some being since CE like colors and Co-Op).

Don’t get me wrong, there are going to be players who feel “entitled” to things in the gaming community and there are many people out there taking it too far. But if you are complaining about those listed above, then I think the complaints are justified since it not being in the game adds less features, not more onto Halo like this game was meant to be. Sure it might be added into the game later so they fulfil their “promise”, but then that pushes back newer features to be pushed back further.

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no the internet made game developers lazy cuz it allows “day one” patches and patches in general so the consumers can mass alpha/beta test the games for them

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I hate how a company can downgrade a games features and then people are somehow “entitled” because they want the stuff they used to have.

Like if you got a new and improved pop tart that had a delicious crust, but was filled with dog dook, somehow you’re " just being entitled" because you expected it to taste like strawberry.

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Is it really entitlement to expect a finished product?

I mean they expect us to go to the store and start spending when most of the features present in previous games aren’t there.

Who’s really entitled here?

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