I have a theory of how possibly the Forerunners won the war against the Precursors. They had gotten a hold of the Organon and used it to turn Precursor tech and weaponry against its own makers. Do you think possibly this could’ve happened?
What is your ‘theory’ based off, since in order to call it that you need to support it with sufficient evidence. All we know about the Organon is that it’s a mythical device that supposedly reactivates Precursor artefacts, hardly the basis of a god-tier race-killing device.
I believe that POSSIBLY the Forerunner got a hold of it somehow for a time and maybe used it against the Precursors. I hope Silentium explains how the Forerunners won.
> I believe that POSSIBLY the Forerunner got a hold of it somehow for a time and maybe used it against the Precursors. I hope Silentium explains how the Forerunners won.
But we don’t know if it even exists, let alone what it actually does. What would lead you to believe the Organon would have anything to do with the Forerunner-Precursor war 10,000,000 years ago when it’s mentioned like twice in Cryptum totally out of this context?
If it were such a powerful device that it helped the ancient Forerunners eradicate an entire race in the Precursor conglomerate, why would the Didact state it doesn’t exist?
I put the Composer and the Organon in the same boat, and the Composer showed up, so I wouldn’t be too surprised if the Organon came up. It was a really brief mention in Cryptum, though. And gah, we know so little about the Forerunner-Precursor War, almost anything is possible.
The Didact calls it a myth though. If it exists in any sense, I think it would be something like a geas, much like the one humans have allowing them to activate forerunner systems.
Its a tough debate. Why would Precurors create one device so powerful that it controls all their tech when someone can so easily use it agaisnt them??? Another problem is why would the Didact not believe in it and what does he think the Forerunners did to defeat the GODS??? Only explanation that makes sense to defeat suct powerful beings is the organon device but the facts I stated above just doesnt add up. Like I said, its a tough debate.
How do we know that what they believed the Organon did, (activate Precursor tech), is actually what it was designed to do? The Forerunner don’t know jack about Precursor tech. They don’t even remember being in conflict with the Precursors at one point and they’ve spent their entire existence romanticizing about them. We can’t assume that because the Didact was so quick to discard it as simple myth, that it actually was. Bornstellar’s quest for the Organon was the thing that got the whole story rolling to begin with.
A lot of people believe that it’s simply a MacGuffin but personally I think it could just as easily be a Chekhov’s Gun, or more precisely The Legend of Chekhov.
Organon: A set of principles for use in scientific or philosophical investigation.
Maybe the Organon isn’t a weapon of some sort, but maybe it grants intelligence or increases technological advancement? Would explain how the Forerunners, probably primitive millions of years ago, managed to beat them.
I’m sure in Primordium that Bornstellar does find out the Organon is a myth . . . . ?
Reread time . . .
The organon is probably a Myth, or a way The Forerunner made to high jack weapons to kill The Precursors since they are basically Ethernal. the best solution is that The precursors are very well alive.
Precursors alive?? There’s a thought, given that the Primordial I’m sure turned out to be a Flood mutation of a Precursor rather than an actual Precursor.
Where have they been hiding all this time though?? Or could we see a double-bluff in that the Precursors set up geas within the Forerunner? (And the imagination hits overtime . . . I’ll stop)
> Precursors alive?? There’s a thought, given that the Primordial I’m sure turned out to be a Flood mutation of a Precursor rather than an actual Precursor.
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> Where have they been hiding all this time though?? Or could we see a double-bluff in that the Precursors set up geas within the Forerunner? (And the imagination hits overtime . . . I’ll stop)
The Precursors are from a different galaxy. The Milky Way is kind of like their science experiment or something.
If it does actually exist, it would definitly be used to fight the flood by the forerunners. Either it was destroyed by precursors to make sure that their crations dont hold such technology or it never actually existed.
> Organon: A set of principles for use in scientific or philosophical investigation.
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> Maybe the Organon isn’t a weapon of some sort, but maybe it grants intelligence or increases technological advancement? Would explain how the Forerunners, probably primitive millions of years ago, managed to beat them.
It may explain how the forerunners themselves seemed to have exploded into the galactic scene in comparison to other potential races.
> Organon: A set of principles for use in scientific or philosophical investigation.
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> Maybe the Organon isn’t a weapon of some sort, but maybe it grants intelligence or increases technological advancement? Would explain how the Forerunners, probably primitive millions of years ago, managed to beat them.
Organon - a system of principles for philosophic or scientific investigations; an instrument for acquiring knowledge
So if the the Organon is a instrument for acquiring knowledge and also a set of principles for use in scientific and philosophical investigations… What could it be but an artifact which reveals the true purpose of the Mantle and the true guidelines necessary to acquire it?
So the Organon might actually be what allows a species to RECLAIM THE MANTLE, and it might actually appear in the games since they ARE called “the Reclaimer Trilogy”.
> The Didact calls it a myth though. If it exists in any sense, I think it would be something like a geas, much like the one humans have allowing them to activate forerunner systems.
Well, plenty of stuff’s been called myth just to be reconsidered as actually legit. ^.^
I like the idea that someone threw around above, about the Organon being a tool to grant intelligence. I especially like thinking how that’s what the forerunners used to overthrow the Precursors.
Super-Strech of a theory: Maybe when the flood returns in Halo’s 7-9, Chief finds the Organon, uses it to defeat the Precursors, but it kills him in the process? This would effectively end his legacy in the Halo series, and allow for spinoffs to be made (something that I can guarantee will happen. I’m not really sure how the whole “knowledge” think would come into play here, but it’s just food for thought.
Heck, they keep saying there MUST be a cure for the flood, they just couldn’t find it. Maybe the Organon is it.
> > The Didact calls it a myth though. If it exists in any sense, I think it would be something like a geas, much like the one humans have allowing them to activate forerunner systems.
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> Well, plenty of stuff’s been called myth just to be reconsidered as actually legit. ^.^
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> I like the idea that someone threw around above, about the Organon being a tool to grant intelligence. I especially like thinking how that’s what the forerunners used to overthrow the Precursors.
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> Super-Strech of a theory: <mark>Maybe when the flood returns in Halo’s 7-9</mark>, Chief finds the Organon, uses it to defeat the Precursors, but it kills him in the process? This would effectively end his legacy in the Halo series, and allow for spinoffs to be made (something that I can guarantee will happen. I’m not really sure how the whole “knowledge” think would come into play here, but it’s just food for thought.
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> Heck, they keep saying there MUST be a cure for the flood, they just couldn’t find it. Maybe the Organon is it.
I’m betting that the Flood return in Halo 5, and that the Chief’s storyline ends with Halo 6.
> The Didact calls it a myth though.
Myths are generally exaggerated,twisted, and distorted throughout time. If it even exists it probably works in no way that the forerunners thought it would have.