Did it ever occur to you?

That the changes in Halo 4 MIGHT be good?
Did you ever consider that change isn’t necessarily a bad thing?
Were you aware that your alarm was due to Reach?
Have you played the game yet? No? Well if that’s the case… you cannot judge.
Because remember Reach? You judged that to be good…
You were wrong then…
You’re probably wrong now.

/rant
Have F4ith

I look most of the changes. It seems that this might be the funnest Halo game yet.

You will probably attract some unwanted attention.
However I agree, change is good and still feels like Halo.

Dear god, why haven’t you put on a flame suit?

> Dear god, why haven’t you put on a flame suit?

Shall we give him one?

There was change in Reach and we all saw what happened. The community reacted badly. That was already too much of a change. There are things in Halo 4 that are turning the game into something that makes the last 10 years of Halo seem like nothing.

He may need one unless the complainers have moved on…which is doubtful.

Can’t wait to see them all on launch day!

Haha, i think people on here are being too emotional. They need to take a friggen breather, and no amount of change will make the past 10 years worthless… how on earth do you even come to that conclusion?!

[I’m not afraid of change] but lately I’ve seen a lot of people that are.

It’s the MIGHT that has me worried.

Did it ever occur to you?

That the changes in Halo 4 MIGHT be horrible?
Did you ever consider that change isn’t allways a good thing?
Were you aware that your faith was due to Halo 2?
Have you played the game yet? No? Well if that’s the case… you cannot judge.
Because remember Reach? You judged that to be good…
You were wrong then…
You’re probably wrong now.

It works both ways.

> Did it ever occur to you?
>
> That the changes in Halo 4 MIGHT be horrible?
> Did you ever consider that change isn’t allways a good thing?
> Were you aware that your faith was due to Halo 2?
> Have you played the game yet? No? Well if that’s the case… you cannot judge.
> Because remember Reach? You judged that to be good…
> You were wrong then…
> You’re probably wrong now.
>
> It works both ways.

<_< I enjoyed Reach more than i ever did on Halo 3…felt better to me.

> That the changes in Halo 4 MIGHT be good?

Good is relative. The changes are in my opinion not, while they in your opinion are.

> Did you ever consider that change isn’t necessarily a bad thing?

Change is fantastic and necessary. When it comes to matters that actually do just that: matter.

> Were you aware that your alarm was due to Reach?

Actually, no. I’ve been concerned about Halo since H2 but I’m one of “those” people.

> Have you played the game yet? No? Well if that’s the case… you cannot judge.

Neither can you. Unless you’ve played it of course.

> Because remember Reach? You judged that to be good…

No. I saw Armor Lock on Powerhouse and I knew it was set up for disappointment yet again.

> You were wrong then…

I don’t decide what everyone view as good.

> You’re probably wrong now.

We will see.

> Have F4ith

I have had F2ith as well as F3ith as well as FRith but that didn’t work out for me.

> > Did it ever occur to you?
> >
> > That the changes in Halo 4 MIGHT be horrible?
> > Did you ever consider that change isn’t allways a good thing?
> > Were you aware that your faith was due to Halo 2?
> > Have you played the game yet? No? Well if that’s the case… you cannot judge.
> > Because remember Reach? You judged that to be good…
> > You were wrong then…
> > You’re probably wrong now.
> >
> > It works both ways.
>
> <_< I enjoyed Reach more than i ever did on Halo 3…felt better to me.

I did so too. I just quoted the OP to show how wrong he is.

As a hardcore Halo fan for almost 11 years now, I was pretty upset with the changes at first.
Then things started getting explained and I actually listened to what they were saying about the changes. They are diffrent, but I don’t see an AA or weapon that seems to dominate others. Things have looked balanced so far and that is the most important thing other than just being fun.

I play Halo for the story, but I stay for the MP and I’m really excited and happy with both right now.

You might want to start putting on that flame suit now.

OT: At least give Halo 4 a chance.

> > Dear god, why haven’t you put on a flame suit?
>
> Shall we give him one?

Why have a flame suit when you can have THIS!

> That the changes in Halo 4 MIGHT be good?

They might. But has it occured to you that they also might be bad? There is no 100% certainity either way. However, through observation and logical reasoning, people have speculated on the positive and the negative impacts of the changes. In some cases the negatives outweigh the positives, in some cases they are even, and in some cases the positives outweigh the negatives.

> Did you ever consider that change isn’t necessarily a bad thing?

Nor is it necessarily a good thing either. Some of the changes will be bad, some will be neutral, and some will even be good. The end result is undecided. The game won’t be the worst Halo game of all time, but neither will it be the best.

> Were you aware that your alarm was due to Reach?

It’s not an alarmed assumption that some of the mechanics in Halo 4 won’t be a good thing for gameplay. It’s a logical one with quite a large amount of reasoning behind it. Some of the things carried to Halo 4 from Reach simply cannot be good for gameplay, no matter what you do about them.

> Have you played the game yet? No? Well if that’s the case… you cannot judge.

Neither can you, so why try to shove “the changes might be good” to people who can logically reason the negative and the positive effects of the changes accurately enough? The fact that you cannot judge doesn’t mean that we cannot judge or, more precisely, make observations and logical conclusions.

> Because remember Reach? You judged that to be good…
> You were wrong then…

Exactly. If I judge Halo 4 to be good, why couldn’t I be wrong now, too? There is no law dictating that Halo 4 will be good. Anyone can end up being wrong and someone will end up being wrong. Who will end up being wrong, is unknown.

> You’re probably wrong now.

Where do you base your probabilities? What makes you say that I’m probably wrong now? In fact, if we look at things logically, we know that Halo 4 carriers onwards some of the features that weren’t the best additions in Reach. We also know that, historically, each Halo has appeared to be less liked than the former. In other words, worse. And when it comes to the game’s suitablity for competition, it’s a fact. If anything, I’m “probably” right if I say that Halo 4 won’t be very good. At least, I can point out quite a lot of aspects that won’t be good and even tell why.

In the end, it’s all a matter of what type of player you are. If you like to just play for the sake of it and just have fun by doing whatever you feel like doing, you are likely to find Halo 4 to be a very good game for you. If you like developing your skills in games, you will most likely find Halo 4 to be a very shallow experience when compared to the history of the franchise. If you like making maps and/or minigames, you will either find the game to allow more freedom to you, or not changing much from what you already had, depending on what type of Forge user you are.

You might find yourself liking the game. I will find myself liking the game more than I liked the previous iteration. I can’t speak from your perspective, but I can say that the game won’t be what I hoped it to be. You might like the game as it is now, but you might want to ask yourself “what really makes this game good?”. In fact, you might also want to as yourself “is there anything in this game that is objectively good?”. Those are large questions to ponder, but they’re also a good thing to think about and to learn to be critical towards what is given to you.

> You might want to start putting on that flame suit now.
>
> OT: At least give Halo 4 a chance.

It’s too late, his shields are down. One more hit and he’ll disintegrate.

Ot: I try to look at halo 4 in a non biased way. If you look at it through reach binoculars with hate intentions, then you may not see the light that everyone else does.

> > > Did it ever occur to you?
> > >
> > > That the changes in Halo 4 MIGHT be horrible?
> > > Did you ever consider that change isn’t allways a good thing?
> > > Were you aware that your faith was due to Halo 2?
> > > Have you played the game yet? No? Well if that’s the case… you cannot judge.
> > > Because remember Reach? You judged that to be good…
> > > You were wrong then…
> > > You’re probably wrong now.
> > >
> > > It works both ways.
> >
> > <_< I enjoyed Reach more than i ever did on Halo 3…felt better to me.
>
> I did so too. I just quoted the OP to show how wrong he is.

Yes but that does’nt mean you have to attack him for it. You could of made it like “I respectivly disagree OP, no flame intended just my opinion.”