Did I Nope Outta Reach Too Fast?

Games Other Halo
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IMORTANT NOTICE: I should probably state for the record now that my commentary, while I stand by it, is mostly turned up to eleven for laughs. Wanted to make my tirade somewhat enjoyable to read; Genuine feedback is appreciated however. And thank you for being one of the few people to read the disclaimer: You deserve to have a massive tacky golden statue be erected in your name.

Okay, let me start this off by saying I love Halo Reach. I’ve been playing it for years, and in that time, it’s influenced my life in rather surprising ways: It’s where I met many of my closest friends today, and it helped me grow as a person, helping me overcome many of my social issues and teaching me many important lessons that I can and have taken with me into the real world. I can state with certainty that I would not be the person I am today, had I not explored it as much as I had. I owe a great deal to both it and its old community.

However…

It should go without saying that the old girl hasn’t been the same for a while now. Things have changed, and from my recent experiences, not for the better.

Lately, at least for me, the servers have become increasingly unstable, meaning that I usually can’t go a single game without my armor resetting at best, and my Xbox completely crashing at worse. Problem with my old 360? Most likely, but that’s not the main source of my grief.

My problem is with the majority of what’s left of the community: It seems that all that remains of a once-grand network of players is:

-The “Professionals,” believing their 1v1s give them authority over the rest of us “filthy casuals.” Of course, any of the following people I mention can become this as well, if you get into a fight like them; 1v1s were how our forefathers settled disputes, after all.
-The majority of the Assassination community, who I’m still trying to figure out. Although, I still have plenty of fun memories in this regard: I once got called “inferior trash” by a self-proclaimed king by playing the game the way it was meant to be played, when I assassinated his queen and hitched a ride on his escape chopper. Chivalry was never my thing anyway. Ah, good times…
-The “Grifball Mafia.” You know what I’m talking about, the entire lobby filled with boosters who will stare you down if you go near the ball at best, and will spawn-kill you for five rounds straight at worst. Shame, because Grifball used to be my favorite “chaos for the sake of it” gamemode on dedicated matchmaking.
-The extremist UNSC/Covenant clans: I swear, the shenanigans these bands of trigger-happy xenophobes get into (How many times have I been swarmed by overzealous Sangheili, or one of my four-jawed friends been detained by enough SPARTAN-IIs to kick off RED FLAG?). I’ve befriended a SPARTAN or two, and I’ve had tea with my fair share of Elites, and the majority of my greatest stories come from these guys, but by god, does it start to get grating after a while. Anyone with experience with the clan community should remember something like this:

  1. Spawn in.
  2. Get spawn-killed by power weapon-crazy enemies.
  3. Repeat steps 1-2 50+ times.
  4. Slip behind their lines and wipe them out.
  5. Get booted, and hang your head and shame for your obvious scrubbiness.

Now, of course these kinds of people have and will always be around, and they’re not limited to Reach. It’s just that for the past while, it seems to be the only semblance of the community left in the spotlight, which depresses me, since I’ve met some of the nicest people on there. Now, with the next-generation of Halo games, I’ve said my goodbyes to my favorite game in the Halo franchises and moved on. My question to you is: Was I too hasty?

Was I simply too jaded or too unlucky to see that on the other side of the canyon, the old community I loved was hiding in the caves?

I dunno.

Are some people gonna be pissed off at this stupid rant?

Most definitely.

Am I just screaming at the padded walls of my cell?

Probably.

In all honesty though, please let me know what you think? Should I return to one of my all-time favorite multiplayer games and restart my search (heh)?

Thank you for sitting through my foaming-at-the-mouth rant. I’mma go take a nap now. Toodles!

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I totally agree with the majority of what you’ve said. I stopped playing Reach mid 2013 and came back to it a few months ago and the community is the worst i’ve ever seen in a Halo game. I’ll admit, I might have played a few games a month here and there between my 2.5 year hiatus, but i’d have never thought the community would have became overrun with complete tryhards. From my recent experience, there’s no end of stat padders and boosters trying to ‘run’ certain playlists; even encountered one or two modders also. It was only a matter of time before the last great Halo game was to become intolerable online. RIP Reach. Lol

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> I totally agree with the majority of what you’ve said. I stopped playing Reach mid 2013 and came back to it a few months ago and the community is the worst i’ve ever seen in a Halo game. I’ll admit, I might have played a few games a month here and there between my 2.5 year hiatus, but i’d have never thought the community would have became overrun with complete tryhards. From my recent experience, there’s no end of stat padders and boosters trying to ‘run’ certain playlists; even encountered one or two modders also. It was only a matter of time before the last great Halo game was to become intolerable online. RIP Reach. Lol

Okay, so I’m not completely crazy here. That’s reassuring at least. XD

All those sub-communities I mentioned? Yeah, me and my friends found plenty of entertainment in messing with them, but now it’s just made me so tired; I’ve never seen a community deteriorate this badly. :confused:

And I must admit, while I myself am fiercely competitive, it’s (usually, heh) kept within reason; It’s nothing compared to some of these holier-than-thou, walking temper tantrums you meet online nowadays. What happened?

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The assassination community scares me for the sole reason that it consumes you (so to speak). I’ve seen good friends turn into “assassinate my family member and I’ll make it my quest to kill you” (in the game of course). They crave competition but the moment they’re bested by they kick that same person who beat them. It’s honestly sad, I was an avid tryhard in assassinations cause I like the “1v2+” vibe that it gives off, but with the majority of players either boot crazy or legitimate “boot off” crazy, it’s not a game anymore (at least not to them).

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You’re also completely missing the infection community elitists, which is massive in Reach as well. That’s its own post to be honest.

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> The assassination community scares me for the sole reason that it consumes you (so to speak). I’ve seen good friends turn into “assassinate my family member and I’ll make it my quest to kill you” (in the game of course). They crave competition but the moment they’re bested by they kick that same person who beat them. It’s honestly sad, I was an avid tryhard in assassinations cause I like the “1v2+” vibe that it gives off, but with the majority of players either boot crazy or legitimate “boot off” crazy, it’s not a game anymore (at least not to them).

Heheh. Yep, that’s them. Good for a laugh, but kinda creepy in how zombie-like they behave. Seriously, in a previous thread, I drew so many comparisons. Scary stuff, man.

What’s the deal with the pack mentality? They’ll mill around aimlessly like walking corpses, or just stay dead-still. That is, until you lunge at one of them, or even just make eye contact, then everything hits the fan. SHUDDER XD

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> You’re also completely missing the infection community elitists, which is massive in Reach as well. That’s its own post to be honest.

Now THAT I did not know about. What’s their deal? I never really saw anything off over there, and I was on Infection quite a bit.

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> You’re also completely missing the infection community elitists, which is massive in Reach as well. That’s its own post to be honest.

Yeah, some nasty specimens in there. They go mental when talented noobs kick their -Yoink- and leave games as soon as they see that their precious win/loss ratio is in danger.
But hey, makes it even more fun to wreck 'm :slight_smile:

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> 2533274932336216;1:
> IMORTANT NOTICE: I should probably state for the record now that my commentary, while I stand by it, is mostly turned up to eleven for laughs. Wanted to make my tirade somewhat enjoyable to read; Genuine feedback is appreciated however. And thank you for being one of the few people to read the disclaimer: You deserve to have a massive tacky golden statue be erected in your name.
>
> Okay, let me start this off by saying I love Halo Reach. I’ve been playing it for years, and in that time, it’s influenced my life in rather surprising ways: It’s where I met many of my closest friends today, and it helped me grow as a person, helping me overcome many of my social issues and teaching me many important lessons that I can and have taken with me into the real world. I can state with certainty that I would not be the person I am today, had I not explored it as much as I had. I owe a great deal to both it and its old community.
>
> However…
>
> It should go without saying that the old girl hasn’t been the same for a while now. Things have changed, and from my recent experiences, not for the better.
> IMO
> Lately, at least for me, the servers have become increasingly unstable, meaning that I usually can’t go a single game without my armor resetting at best, and my Xbox completely crashing at worse. Problem with my old 360? Most likely, but that’s not the main source of my grief.
>
> My problem is with the majority of what’s left of the community: It seems that all that remains of a once-grand network of players is:
>
> -The “Professionals,” believing their 1v1s give them authority over the rest of us “filthy casuals.” Of course, any of the following people I mention can become this as well, if you get into a fight like them; 1v1s were how our forefathers settled disputes, after all.
> -The majority of the Assassination community, who I’m still trying to figure out. Although, I still have plenty of fun memories in this regard: I once got called “inferior trash” by a self-proclaimed king by playing the game the way it was meant to be played, when I assassinated his queen and hitched a ride on his escape chopper. Chivalry was never my thing anyway. Ah, good times…
> -The “Grifball Mafia.” You know what I’m talking about, the entire lobby filled with boosters who will stare you down if you go near the ball at best, and will spawn-kill you for five rounds straight at worst. Shame, because Grifball used to be my favorite “chaos for the sake of it” gamemode on dedicated matchmaking.
> -The extremist UNSC/Covenant clans: I swear, the shenanigans these bands of trigger-happy xenophobes get into (How many times have I been swarmed by overzealous Sangheili, or one of my four-jawed friends been detained by enough SPARTAN-IIs to kick off RED FLAG?). I’ve befriended a SPARTAN or two, and I’ve had tea with my fair share of Elites, and the majority of my greatest stories come from these guys, but by god, does it start to get grating after a while. Anyone with experience with the clan community should remember something like this:
> 1. Spawn in.
> 2. Get spawn-killed by power weapon-crazy enemies.
> 3. Repeat steps 1-2 50+ times.
> 4. Slip behind their lines and wipe them out.
> 5. Get booted, and hang your head and shame for your obvious scrubbiness.
>
> Now, of course these kinds of people have and will always be around, and they’re not limited to Reach. It’s just that for the past while, it seems to be the only semblance of the community left in the spotlight, which depresses me, since I’ve met some of the nicest people on there. Now, with the next-generation of Halo games, I’ve said my goodbyes to my favorite game in the Halo franchises and moved on. My question to you is: Was I too hasty?
>
> Was I simply too jaded or too unlucky to see that on the other side of the canyon, the old community I loved was hiding in the caves?
>
> I dunno.
>
> Are some people gonna be pissed off at this stupid rant?
>
> Most definitely.
>
> Am I just screaming at the padded walls of my cell?
>
> Probably.
>
> In all honesty though, please let me know what you think? Should I return to one of my all-time favorite multiplayer games and restart my search (heh)?
>
> Thank you for sitting through my foaming-at-the-mouth rant. I’mma go take a nap now. Toodles!

I did 1-5 on the list almost everyday with the OP. I always called clans “filthy casuals”, does that mean I am “Professional” my friend. Well, I stream and record things but I am not no pro. All I know is you forgot the Arbiters, Prophets and the Stars Wars folk. They act very oddly.

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> > 2533274932336216;1:
> > IMORTANT NOTICE: I should probably state for the record now that my commentary, while I stand by it, is mostly turned up to eleven for laughs. Wanted to make my tirade somewhat enjoyable to read; Genuine feedback is appreciated however. And thank you for being one of the few people to read the disclaimer: You deserve to have a massive tacky golden statue be erected in your name.
> >
> > Okay, let me start this off by saying I love Halo Reach. I’ve been playing it for years, and in that time, it’s influenced my life in rather surprising ways: It’s where I met many of my closest friends today, and it helped me grow as a person, helping me overcome many of my social issues and teaching me many important lessons that I can and have taken with me into the real world. I can state with certainty that I would not be the person I am today, had I not explored it as much as I had. I owe a great deal to both it and its old community.
> >
> > However…
> >
> > It should go without saying that the old girl hasn’t been the same for a while now. Things have changed, and from my recent experiences, not for the better.
> > IMO
> > Lately, at least for me, the servers have become increasingly unstable, meaning that I usually can’t go a single game without my armor resetting at best, and my Xbox completely crashing at worse. Problem with my old 360? Most likely, but that’s not the main source of my grief.
> >
> > My problem is with the majority of what’s left of the community: It seems that all that remains of a once-grand network of players is:
> >
> > -The “Professionals,” believing their 1v1s give them authority over the rest of us “filthy casuals.” Of course, any of the following people I mention can become this as well, if you get into a fight like them; 1v1s were how our forefathers settled disputes, after all.
> > -The majority of the Assassination community, who I’m still trying to figure out. Although, I still have plenty of fun memories in this regard: I once got called “inferior trash” by a self-proclaimed king by playing the game the way it was meant to be played, when I assassinated his queen and hitched a ride on his escape chopper. Chivalry was never my thing anyway. Ah, good times…
> > -The “Grifball Mafia.” You know what I’m talking about, the entire lobby filled with boosters who will stare you down if you go near the ball at best, and will spawn-kill you for five rounds straight at worst. Shame, because Grifball used to be my favorite “chaos for the sake of it” gamemode on dedicated matchmaking.
> > -The extremist UNSC/Covenant clans: I swear, the shenanigans these bands of trigger-happy xenophobes get into (How many times have I been swarmed by overzealous Sangheili, or one of my four-jawed friends been detained by enough SPARTAN-IIs to kick off RED FLAG?). I’ve befriended a SPARTAN or two, and I’ve had tea with my fair share of Elites, and the majority of my greatest stories come from these guys, but by god, does it start to get grating after a while. Anyone with experience with the clan community should remember something like this:
> > 1. Spawn in.
> > 2. Get spawn-killed by power weapon-crazy enemies.
> > 3. Repeat steps 1-2 50+ times.
> > 4. Slip behind their lines and wipe them out.
> > 5. Get booted, and hang your head and shame for your obvious scrubbiness.
> >
> > Now, of course these kinds of people have and will always be around, and they’re not limited to Reach. It’s just that for the past while, it seems to be the only semblance of the community left in the spotlight, which depresses me, since I’ve met some of the nicest people on there. Now, with the next-generation of Halo games, I’ve said my goodbyes to my favorite game in the Halo franchises and moved on. My question to you is: Was I too hasty?
> >
> > Was I simply too jaded or too unlucky to see that on the other side of the canyon, the old community I loved was hiding in the caves?
> >
> > I dunno.
> >
> > Are some people gonna be pissed off at this stupid rant?
> >
> > Most definitely.
> >
> > Am I just screaming at the padded walls of my cell?
> >
> > Probably.
> >
> > In all honesty though, please let me know what you think? Should I return to one of my all-time favorite multiplayer games and restart my search (heh)?
> >
> > Thank you for sitting through my foaming-at-the-mouth rant. I’mma go take a nap now. Toodles!
>
>
> I did 1-5 on the list almost everyday with the OP. I always called clans “filthy casuals”, does that mean I am “Professional” my friend. Well, I stream and record things but I am not no pro. All I know is you forgot the Arbiters, Prophets and the Stars Wars folk. They act very oddly.

Only ever fought the 501st, and they are mostly okay, if not a little desperate to one-up us when we kicked their -Yoink- on their own turf once. And the Arbiters/Prophets fall in with the clan grouping.

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> > 2533274903406057;4:
> > The assassination community scares me for the sole reason that it consumes you (so to speak). I’ve seen good friends turn into “assassinate my family member and I’ll make it my quest to kill you” (in the game of course). They crave competition but the moment they’re bested by they kick that same person who beat them. It’s honestly sad, I was an avid tryhard in assassinations cause I like the “1v2+” vibe that it gives off, but with the majority of players either boot crazy or legitimate “boot off” crazy, it’s not a game anymore (at least not to them).
>
>
> Heheh. Yep, that’s them. Good for a laugh, but kinda creepy in how zombie-like they behave. Seriously, in a previous thread, I drew so many comparisons. Scary stuff, man.
>
> What’s the deal with the pack mentality? They’ll mill around aimlessly like walking corpses, or just stay dead-still. That is, until you lunge at one of them, or even just make eye contact, then everything hits the fan. SHUDDER XD

care to explain?

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> > 2533274932336216;6:
> > > 2533274903406057;4:
> > > The assassination community scares me for the sole reason that it consumes you (so to speak). I’ve seen good friends turn into “assassinate my family member and I’ll make it my quest to kill you” (in the game of course). They crave competition but the moment they’re bested by they kick that same person who beat them. It’s honestly sad, I was an avid tryhard in assassinations cause I like the “1v2+” vibe that it gives off, but with the majority of players either boot crazy or legitimate “boot off” crazy, it’s not a game anymore (at least not to them).
> >
> >
> > Heheh. Yep, that’s them. Good for a laugh, but kinda creepy in how zombie-like they behave. Seriously, in a previous thread, I drew so many comparisons. Scary stuff, man.
> >
> > What’s the deal with the pack mentality? They’ll mill around aimlessly like walking corpses, or just stay dead-still. That is, until you lunge at one of them, or even just make eye contact, then everything hits the fan. SHUDDER XD
>
>
> care to explain?

Sorry, kind of a running joke between me and my friends: My own personal tin foil hat conspiracy comparing assassination players to the undead.

Really, though, it has to be seen to be believed:

Just things like the instant whiplashes from subdued and passive to violent and screaming, the way many seem to prefer traveling in packs/hordes, the relentless nature they adopt if you manage to piss one of them off, etc.

Like I said, mostly an in-joke, but to be honest, their general irrationality and warped perspectives can be very disquieting.

Just an overall unpleasant group. :confused:

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we should all do a custom game for old time sake

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Yeah there are clans that go around in matchmaking and completely go tryhard on random teams and absolutely ruins BTB and Invasion. Other than that I don’t have much interaction with the rest of the Reach community but a month ago or so i played custom games with some friends and we invited recent players from Reach and had a blast full lobby too!

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> Yeah there are clans that go around in matchmaking and completely go tryhard on random teams and absolutely ruins BTB and Invasion. Other than that I don’t have much interaction with the rest of the Reach community but a month ago or so i played custom games with some friends and we invited recent players from Reach and had a blast full lobby too!

tell me about it and its worse in grifball where they tryhard and leave when they lose the first round i stopped playing grifball seriously i just play it now to talk to people who aren’t squeakers that -Yoink!- their mic or spam music into their mic also this isn’t just in reach but to people who betray for the bomb because you want to score guess what i’m going to target you because i absolutely hate people who do that its even worse when they have a guest double teaming on their teammate. as soon as i hit inheritor im just going to play infection and/or customs because the grifball community is starting to make hitting the cap a chore i used to play grifball day and night on reach but now i just get one kill and don’t do anything so i won’t get spawn killed over 100 times and once i hit the cap i go to customs then to another games btw have you guys played any shantae games they are great platformers. rant over

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what i mean by you want to score im talking about when grif is about to score and the p’’'k betrays grif picks up the bomb and scores.

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Yep OP spot on pretty much why I left reach a few years back. What takes place in assassination games is so cringey.

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> > > > The assassination community scares me for the sole reason that it consumes you (so to speak). I’ve seen good friends turn into “assassinate my family member and I’ll make it my quest to kill you” (in the game of course). They crave competition but the moment they’re bested by they kick that same person who beat them. It’s honestly sad, I was an avid tryhard in assassinations cause I like the “1v2+” vibe that it gives off, but with the majority of players either boot crazy or legitimate “boot off” crazy, it’s not a game anymore (at least not to them).
> > >
> > >
> > > Heheh. Yep, that’s them. Good for a laugh, but kinda creepy in how zombie-like they behave. Seriously, in a previous thread, I drew so many comparisons. Scary stuff, man.
> > >
> > > What’s the deal with the pack mentality? They’ll mill around aimlessly like walking corpses, or just stay dead-still. That is, until you lunge at one of them, or even just make eye contact, then everything hits the fan. SHUDDER XD
> >
> >
> > care to explain?
>
>
> Sorry, kind of a running joke between me and my friends: My own personal tin foil hat conspiracy comparing assassination players to the undead.
>
> Really, though, it has to be seen to be believed:
>
> Just things like the instant whiplashes from subdued and passive to violent and screaming, the way many seem to prefer traveling in packs/hordes, the relentless nature they adopt if you manage to piss one of them off, etc.
>
> Like I said, mostly an in-joke, but to be honest, their general irrationality and warped perspectives can be very disquieting.
>
> Just an overall unpleasant group. :confused:

One rule to assassinations, the law of the land:

  • killing someone=hating them and provoking “drama”
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> > 2533274871484132;14:
> > Yeah there are clans that go around in matchmaking and completely go tryhard on random teams and absolutely ruins BTB and Invasion. Other than that I don’t have much interaction with the rest of the Reach community but a month ago or so i played custom games with some friends and we invited recent players from Reach and had a blast full lobby too!
>
>
> tell me about it and its worse in grifball where they tryhard and leave when they lose the first round i stopped playing grifball seriously i just play it now to talk to people who aren’t squeakers that -Yoink!- their mic or spam music into their mic also this isn’t just in reach but to people who betray for the bomb because you want to score guess what i’m going to target you because i absolutely hate people who do that its even worse when they have a guest double teaming on their teammate. as soon as i hit inheritor im just going to play infection and/or customs because the grifball community is starting to make hitting the cap a chore i used to play grifball day and night on reach but now i just get one kill and don’t do anything so i won’t get spawn killed over 100 times and once i hit the cap i go to customs then to another games btw have you guys played any shantae games they are great platformers. rant over

Its just a boost fest, I tried getting back into gb but its filled with 360 spin assassination players who honest to god irritate me with their needing of friends to kill you and then message all recents about how you suck or whatnot.

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> The assassination community scares me for the sole reason that it consumes you (so to speak). I’ve seen good friends turn into “assassinate my family member and I’ll make it my quest to kill you” (in the game of course). They crave competition but the moment they’re bested by they kick that same person who beat them. It’s honestly sad, I was an avid tryhard in assassinations cause I like the “1v2+” vibe that it gives off, but with the majority of players either boot crazy or legitimate “boot off” crazy, it’s not a game anymore (at least not to them).

As someone who is fairly new to assassination (I never played it after 3 games), I can say that the friends I met there are super bi-polar. I remember fighting a 1v1 and accidently assassinating my friend because he ran infront of me and then I was “removed” from the game. Not to mention I was removed from their friends list lol