Allot of fans where upset with the direction the Halo lore went in Halo 5. The campaign left may people feeling that this event had destroyed the space opera we had all come to love. Did it though? What is you guys opinion? And btw check out Alienspartan117’s new vid Did 343 kill Halo?
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I don’t think it did. sure it went in a direction most seem not to like but that doesn’t mean it destroyed the lore.
I wouldn’t say it “destroyed” the lore. Not yet. I feel it just knocked it off course and made it get lost.
Reach did more damage to the lore than Halo 5 ever could have.
Even though it made no sense for the story to go this way, H5 did put the story in a somewhat interesting place.
How 343 plans to turn this mess into something even half way decent is interesting to me
yup, H5G’s plot is as bad as ME3’s ending
Nothing Halo Reach didn’t top.
The premise of the game was very hard to believe, and almost half the team was entirely useless.
It definitely didn’t turn out the way I was hoping but supposedly this storyline is very long and complicated so they might start filling in all the pieces in the next installment to put together a more complete storyline. I can’t remember what thread it was but one player managed to come up with a theory to tie H4, hunt the truth and H5 together that actually sounded like a good plot.
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> The premise of the game was very hard to believe, and almost half the team was entirely useless.
Comparing to the books it would have made more sense if they weren’t connected to Halsey, or the pillar of Autumn and had them basically a separate team no one knew was there.
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> Reach did more damage to the lore than Halo 5 ever could have.
It really didn’t . I softly cobtradicted an already heavily contradicted book in a few points, but it really has no impact on the overall halo story.
H5 and its surrounding media pretty much throw out every plot point and antagonist for a new set of awkwardly similar ones with poor motivations and no hype. It abandons curent theme for a bunch of ai rights nonsense which doesnt fit the franchise. It ruins the reputation of one of the most beloved characters and throws in some half-baked rebellion plot that makes little sense.
Reach was a prequel that told a story a bit differently than predicted.
Halo 5 changed the entire story.
Yep pretty much, due to the Hunt the Truth, advertisements amd etc. I believe there a thread on the the Hunt the Truth some where.
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> Reach did more damage to the lore than Halo 5 ever could have.
Actually this is true. Reach was supposed to happen within a day, with Mac cannons raining from the sky. Bungie changed it so that they could have more freedom.
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The length of the battle is nothing compared to changing the direction and major players of the franchise.
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I’m just going off the already established lore being changed, IE. what reach did. good or not it changed a bunch of things.
Halo 5 on the other hand didn’t destroy any already established lore, it just hurt the direction the story was going with killing jul… (sigh) and makeing Cortana the antagonist… eck…
Reach wasn’t the first thing to change something from the fall of reach.
Technically halo 1 did. First strike did. Contact harvest did, and pretty much every work that mentions brutes, elites, hunters, drones, or prophets interacting with humans before 2552.
They actually released updated versions to address many of the issues in the stuff I mentioned above, but there’s still some.
The campaign brought me to a point where I just don’t care anymore. Cortana and the “Created” are such an uninspired and boring group of villains, I have no interest in learning more about them and what they plan to do. I am unengaged in any post-Halo 5 fiction that relates to them for that reason.
So to me? Yes, Halo 5 did destroy the lore. From an objective point of view? No, it didn’t destroy it, it just brought it down a very bad direction. There were so many great plot points that could have been explored after Halo 4, including the Didact and Jul in more detail, but both of those great characters were pushed aside for Evil Cortana. So lame…
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> Reach did more damage to the lore than Halo 5 ever could have.
All Reach did was mess up times of day, a couple of dates and put people where they shouldn’t be. Halo 5 resurrected The Domain and Cortana, I mean WHAT! That doesn’t even compare. Atleast with Reach you can argue game canon over book canon but Holy hell did Halo 5 just do whatever it wanted. MC even has a vision ,a full on psychic vision of Cortana telling him to go to Meridian. WHAT?!?!?
Also you’d think that when the Covenant fell and the Forerunner religion was out to be alie that someone would take the Guardian at Sunion. Apparently they just didn’t care to. All those threats of danger must of become void when the religion was a lie, so why did literally none of the power hunger warlords try to take a giant death bot?
And they killed off Jul Mdama. That’s not breaking the lore, it’s just annoying.
Yes, it did, especially since the plot was lied about in the game’s marketing. Being a reader of the Halo comics and novels as well as a listener of the Hunt the Truth (lies) podcast, Halo 5’s story made no sense. They’ll have create a MASTAPEECE in Halo 6 to fix the mess. I’ve heard people say 343i should retcon the game, but maybe that’s too much 
The direction is fine if a bit off for Halo but overall, fine. The way 343 told us though…just seems rushed.
Despite my extreme distaste for the story lines introduced by 343 Industries. I think things story wise started getting botched around the time of Halo Wars 1 and ODST. Reach, 4 and 5 continued the trend of butchering previously established canon and just generally went in a weird direction.
Still, yeah, it seems 343 can’t even stay consistent with their own established storylines from game to game. They seriously need different writers.