First of all not to throw anyone off, I love Halo 4, 343 did an incredible job with the franchis, however…the Carbine, Plasma Pistol, and ‘upgraded’ Storm Rifle are complete trash. Am I the only one that notices this? How did the Covenant threaten all of humanity with these garbage weapons? Just sayin’…
My only beef is the Gravity Hammer not sounding as strong as it was in previous Halo’s.
And the Carbine not being as powerful as I remember it in Halo 3. It seems underpowered, it cleans up well (finishing off weak enemies) but it just seems not as powerful as it should be.
You could also say : What happened to balancing weapons?
Plasma pistol and storm rifle are fine, carbine needs a buff.
I thought the Carbine would be back in all its glory. Boy was I wrong.
What are you guys on about?
I actually use the covies weapons, never did before.
The Carbine, Plasma pistol and storm are all awesome.
I find the storm rifle incredibly useful when paired with a precision weapon, since you don’t have to reload it, it is effective in CQC.
Plasma pistol is great for draining shields, but i disagree with having it as a loadout weapon since it makes vehicle combat INCREDIBLY inconsistent.
Carbine is fun, but not worth the effort of using it, at all. you have to land 8 rapid fire shots, while dodging atleast 1 DMR shot to outgun someone? What the heck.
Concussion rifle is AMAZING it’s so much fun to use.
Gravity hammer is garbage this time around 
apart from winning a sword clash it is pretty useless.
Beam rifle sounds beautiful.
Energy sword is pretty much the same. feels awesome to use. if you don’t get bulltrue’d by the inevitable boltshot overcharge.
Plasma grenades should be pickup. with spawn, people can just close distance to you, to secure a stick, if they’re losing a 1v1.
i have yet to get the fuel rod cannon in matchmaking, so i can’t really judge it.
> Plasma pistol and storm rifle are fine, carbine needs a buff.
Storm Rifle is legit if you control the heat right (good CQC weapon) but the Plasma Pistol was nerfed too hard. It should retain the double drain and lock on but kept the damage it did in Reach as it was perfect in that game.
The commendation to get the PP mastered is going to come at cost to your overall stats. That’s how weak it is ( i am well aware of the 3 shots melee then 1 shot again trick but that is still not easy to pull off).
Carbine is in need of a buff though. Anyone else saying otherwise is crazy.
> > Plasma pistol and storm rifle are fine, carbine needs a buff.
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> Storm Rifle is legit if you control the heat right (good CQC weapon) but the Plasma Pistol was nerfed too hard. It should retain the double drain and lock on but kept the damage it did in Reach as it was perfect in that game.
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> The commendation to get the PP mastered is going to come at cost to your overall stats. That’s how weak it is ( i am well aware of the 3 shots melee then 1 shot again trick but that is still not easy to pull off).
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> Carbine is in need of a buff though. Anyone else saying otherwise is crazy.
Im crazy? I think the Carbine is epic, may be my DMR replaacement, although the BR is still high up there.
> > > Plasma pistol and storm rifle are fine, carbine needs a buff.
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> > Storm Rifle is legit if you control the heat right (good CQC weapon) but the Plasma Pistol was nerfed too hard. It should retain the double drain and lock on but kept the damage it did in Reach as it was perfect in that game.
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> > The commendation to get the PP mastered is going to come at cost to your overall stats. That’s how weak it is ( i am well aware of the 3 shots melee then 1 shot again trick but that is still not easy to pull off).
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> > Carbine is in need of a buff though. Anyone else saying otherwise is crazy.
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> Im crazy? I think the Carbine is epic, may be my DMR replaacement, although the BR is still high up there.
if you have a literally pefect accuracy and pace (protip : you don’t, you always miss at least one shot because of the fact the enemy moves and you too ; you have to constantly push the trigger, your finger gets tired or slows down mechanically or you pay too much attention to it and forget something else) it’s actually stronger than the DMR.
but since you miss that one shot, it makes the killtime longer, and so, weaker.
> > > Plasma pistol and storm rifle are fine, carbine needs a buff.
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> > Storm Rifle is legit if you control the heat right (good CQC weapon) but the Plasma Pistol was nerfed too hard. It should retain the double drain and lock on but kept the damage it did in Reach as it was perfect in that game.
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> > The commendation to get the PP mastered is going to come at cost to your overall stats. That’s how weak it is ( i am well aware of the 3 shots melee then 1 shot again trick but that is still not easy to pull off).
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> > Carbine is in need of a buff though. Anyone else saying otherwise is crazy.
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> Im crazy? I think the Carbine is epic, may be my DMR replaacement, although the BR is still high up there.
The Carbine as it is now is a gimped DMR with a faster ROF. Why use the Carbine when the DMR has the same function and is much stronger (not to mention easier to use)? I can only think of favoritism as to why you think it is epic and that is fine. The guns’ sound and design is indeed epic but it under performs in combat.
That’s not your fault though and you can continue using the Carbine as i know you will. However, i do believe 343 nerfed the Carbine too hard from the E3 build and the fact that the DMR has no drawbacks hurts the game’s loadout balance a lot too.
The Halo 2 Carbine, now THAT was quite a gun.
I was hoping to once again pwn everyone with the Carbine when I started playing Halo 4. Boy was I wrong. It really needs a buff.
The storm rifle is horrible, why do they keep insisting on replacing the original plasma rifle? It was freaking awsome and truly iconic to Halo imo.
The plasma pistol is okay but they should lower the speed at which the energy diminishes with when charging it.
The Gravity hammer is pretty usless now that everyone start with a long range combat weapon.
The beam rifle is ok but the zoomed-in interface is just pure crap, the same goes for the Carbine.
However the Fuel rod is according to me the best weapon in the game. One hit kill and you start with something like 20 rounds. That’s a rampage if you pull it of nicely.
I do not know what it is about the Carbine, but i just like it. Maybe i think it has better accuracy whilst maintain higher ROF (dislike high ROF, personally)
I love the Carbine. I find it the best gun to use for my playstyle (LR is up there, too). For some reason the DMR doesn’t work for me.
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Yea Halo 2 Carbine was perfect. And the Plasma Pistol, in Halo 3 I could hold my own against someone with a Pistol just fine, now i just get destroyed left and right. Come to think about it…i’ve never been killed by someone with a Plasma Pistol in H4.
I think 343 had a fun time destroying Halo in general.
Agreed on everything except Needler and Storm Rifle.
The Storm Rifle is super effective in Team Regicide.
You know, The Storm Rifle and Plasma Pistol are fine. Im disappointed with the Carbine, it seems extremely weak. I think the Carbine from 2,3, 3: ODST was stronger.
> My only beef is the Gravity Hammer not sounding as strong as it was in previous Halo’s.
I personally disagree, i absolutely love the new sound
> Agreed on everything except Needler and Storm Rifle.
> [h[The Storm Rifle is super effective in Team Regicide[/h].
A random Spartan IV appeared!
Go Insert your name here!
The random Spartan IV used the Plasma Pistol
It wasn’t very effective.
Insert your name here used the Storm Rifle
It’s super effective!!! Critical Hit!!!
A random Spartan IV died.
insert your name here got 400 EXP.
Insert your name here is now level 129
Attack: 200
Defense: 150
Special Attack: 230
Special Defense: 150
Speed: 250
insert your name here learned DMR!